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Drug violence sends Caribbean murder rates soaring
Nola.com ^ | January 1, 2010 | Associated Press

Posted on 01/04/2010 6:36:38 AM PST by rrstar96

(AP) — SAN JUAN, Puerto Rico - Caribbean islands battling drug-fueled crime had one of their bloodiest years on record in 2009, with Jamaica, the Bahamas and Puerto Rico hitting or coming close to all-time highs for homicides.

The violence reflects the drug trade's deep entrenchment in the region, with high murder rates becoming a fact of life at tourist havens that traffickers use as transit points for South American drugs bound for Europe and the United States.

In countries including the Bahamas, which set a record with more than 82 slayings, officials say they are contending with turf battles between rival drug gangs and an increased willingness to resort to violence.

"You're finding that even kids, I'm talking teenagers, rather than arguing a point, they pick up a knife and it escalates to that type of level," said Bahamas National Security Minister Tommy Turnquest.

(Excerpt) Read more at nola.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: bahamas; caribbean; crime; drugs; drugtrafficking; drugviolence; jamaica; puertorico

1 posted on 01/04/2010 6:36:39 AM PST by rrstar96
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To: cll

ping


2 posted on 01/04/2010 6:37:26 AM PST by rrstar96 (Strength and Honor!)
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To: rrstar96

The wife and I went to Jamaica a few years ago, we didn’t like it at all.

I felt safer wandering around anywhere in Detroit than I did in some of the places we ventured into there. If you are planning a vacation to the Caribbean I recommend Aruba myself, well worth the little extra cost.


3 posted on 01/04/2010 6:51:40 AM PST by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: Abathar

I’ve never met a person who would go back to Jamaica. It’s amazing how unanimous the consensus is on that country!


4 posted on 01/04/2010 6:56:51 AM PST by Skenderbej (People need to learn that no muhammadan practices his religion peacefully.)
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To: Abathar

The British Virgin Islands(Tortola, Virgin Gorda, Jost Van Dyke, etc.) and The Cayman Islands are also very safe.
The islands that tend to be more expensive to visit, also tend to be safer as a general rule in the Carribean. You get what you pay for. I am sure St. Barts is very safe , but I can not afford to go there.


5 posted on 01/04/2010 7:09:03 AM PST by woodbutcher1963
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To: woodbutcher1963

Love the BVI....working on moving to USVI currently.


6 posted on 01/04/2010 7:10:32 AM PST by KeepUSfree (WOSD = fascism pure and simple.)
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To: rrstar96

Elephant in the corner:
Blacks are 8 times more likely to commit violent crimes than whites. (In the US, this phenomena exists worldwide.)


7 posted on 01/04/2010 7:16:57 AM PST by Bon mots
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To: KeepUSfree

Which Island ?
I always thought St. John would be nice to move to. However, I am starting to think I would like to retire out of the US.


8 posted on 01/04/2010 7:24:36 AM PST by woodbutcher1963
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To: woodbutcher1963

I was in Tortola back in 1990 on a cruise, one of the crew we were talking to was extremely happy that there happened to be a British mine sweeping ship having a liberty there at the same time. He told us it would be much safer with the MP walking around with us.

We spent about an hour browsing around the port and then took a boat over to Virgin Gorda to go swimming there, one of the best parts of the whole cruise imho.


9 posted on 01/04/2010 7:33:51 AM PST by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: Skenderbej

Guess I am the exception to the rule. Been 10 times and going back for our 11th in March. The people of Jamaica are wonderful...I would rather walk the streets there at night vs. going up the road 40 miles and walk around Durham, NC.


10 posted on 01/04/2010 7:40:35 AM PST by face_down_in_nc
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To: face_down_in_nc

Yep, you’re the first!

I haven’t heard much about the crime, mostly how the country is trashed once you leave the resorts. Also have heard that the street vendors are aggressive in trying to sell you stuff, and not nice when you don’t buy.

I’ve never been. But, having spent a couple years in Eastern Europe, I have no desire to travel to many other places outside the U.S. Went to Mexico two years ago and it brought back bad memories. Those types of experiences make me less inclined to try places I’ve heard bad things about. I’d rather die touring the U.S.!


11 posted on 01/04/2010 7:49:32 AM PST by Skenderbej (People need to learn that no muhammadan practices his religion peacefully.)
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To: Abathar

I have not been to the BVI since 2001. I always felt extremely safe anywhere on the islands at anytime of day/night. Crime was nonexistent there.
The only thing I can say that is negative is that they built a cruise ship pier in Roadtown in 2000 and since then the large cruise ships stated docking there several days a week. They also extented the runway on Beef Island so jets could land. Prior to that it was turbo props only.
Other than that the BVI’s were my favorite islands to visit. No crime, no casinos, no welfare, low taxes, everyone speaks english and friendly people.


12 posted on 01/04/2010 7:55:32 AM PST by woodbutcher1963
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To: rrstar96; AuH2ORepublican; livius; adorno; wtc911; Willie Green; CGVet58; Clemenza; Narcoleptic; ...
Puerto Rico Ping! Please Freepmail me if you want on or off the list.


13 posted on 01/04/2010 8:01:10 AM PST by cll (I am the warrant and the sanction)
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To: woodbutcher1963

Probably St. Thomas. My least favorite of the Islands. But, we are working on getting a store where the Cruise ships come in as our product is one of the best “Cruise ship presents” there is.


14 posted on 01/04/2010 8:20:36 AM PST by KeepUSfree (WOSD = fascism pure and simple.)
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To: Abathar

Jamaica is a very dangerous toilet. Travel agents who recommend that dump should go to jail.


15 posted on 01/04/2010 8:33:39 AM PST by Frantzie (TV - sending Americans towards islamic serfdom - Cancel TV service NOW)
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To: KeepUSfree

USVI supposedly a lot more dangerous than BVI. USVI security collapsed after a hurricane a few years ago. You better have a gun.


16 posted on 01/04/2010 8:36:10 AM PST by Frantzie (TV - sending Americans towards islamic serfdom - Cancel TV service NOW)
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To: Frantzie

I’m not concerned with the level of violence there. Our last store was in Baltimore City....and no place on St. T. can come close to that!

And, we have plenty of guns too!


17 posted on 01/04/2010 8:39:21 AM PST by KeepUSfree (WOSD = fascism pure and simple.)
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To: KeepUSfree

Is it possible to open a business in the BVI ?
I know it is hard to buy property if you are not a “belonger”.
BTW what is your product ?
You can always do your banking in Roadtown.


18 posted on 01/04/2010 8:42:32 AM PST by woodbutcher1963
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To: woodbutcher1963; KeepUSfree

Yesterday was watching some international home shoppers program on HGTV.....the couple looked at three homes ranging from 2 to 3 million zops. Whew.


19 posted on 01/04/2010 8:46:38 AM PST by ErnBatavia (It's not the Obama Administration....it's the "Obama Regime".)
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To: cll

“Puerto Rico, a U.S. territory of 4 million people, had its third-worst year on record with more than 890 people slain.”

Holy Shit.


20 posted on 01/04/2010 8:47:38 AM PST by SilvieWaldorfMD
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To: ErnBatavia

I love that show. It is very interesting to see what a house costs in other countries. So far my two favorite potential places were Portugal and the Turks & Caikos(sp?).


21 posted on 01/04/2010 9:14:10 AM PST by woodbutcher1963
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To: cll
And that only covers murder. What about other crimes (e.g., armed robbery, grand theft auto, rape, burglary)?

The criminal situation in Puerto Rico seems to be so out of control.

22 posted on 01/04/2010 9:42:06 AM PST by rrstar96 (Strength and Honor!)
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To: rrstar96

It’s a preview of what is going to happen in the U.S. The government taxes and over regulates the productive members of the population, so they leave. They over tax industry, so they leave. They allow the thugs to rule the streets to the point that most homes resemble little jails, with the bars designed to keep the bad guys out. Those law abiding folks that can, leave.

Soon, all you have left are thugs, corrupt government officials, reporters and entertainers.


23 posted on 01/04/2010 4:31:09 PM PST by Sergio (If a tree fell on a mime in the forest, would he make a sound?)
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