Skip to comments.Food Stamps, and Nothing Else (Shocking US Chart)
Posted on 01/04/2010 3:11:34 PM PST by GVnana
Food stamp programs in 30 states and the District of Columbia provided data on the number of recipients who had no other cash income in 2007 and 2009. These numbers reflect not only the economic conditions in various states, but also the extent to which food stamp recipients qualify for other safety net programs, such as welfare or unemployment compensation.
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Looks like a map of the states that ozero carried.
Just wondering. Which states were hit hardest by the real estate bubble? Hmmmm... the states with the most sub prime default problems also top the charts for food stamps. I wonder if there is any correlation there?
My rich neighbor’s bake-at-home-pizza business is thriving in the recession.
He takes food stamps.
Either there were not that many to begin with, so a few more equates to a large percentage increase ...
or someone is getting a bunch of blue staters to move into Utah to skew future voting patterns.
Google “food stamp fraud” and your state. One of those top 2 states on that map has a whole division devoted to food stamp fraud...
I suppose CA is still trying to assess the impact of allowing welfare cards (EBT’s) to be used in fast food establishments before they provide any “data”.
I’m in South Carolina and it’s up 36%.
I’m an interviewer at a local food/clothing bank. Most of the people I interview have no job and no money. Some of them are on SSI. Most all of them are on Food Stamps.
And many of them have no income other than food stamps. When pressed, they will admit to raking leaves, picking up cans and cleaning houses for a little cash.
Believe it or not, I’ve even had people admit Food Stamp fraud to me. They go to the grocery, load their cart with high-end food stuffs (steak, lobster, choice deli items, etc.), pay with their food stamps and then sell their goodies to their neighbors.
None of these people are getting anywhere fast. They live a very disconnected, stop-gap life.
I pray for these folks every day and thank God he has seen fit to take care of me.
And New Jersey is kind of like the exact opposite. Only 7% increase from 2007 to 2009. I suspect it’s because almost anyone who could possible be on food stamps in New Jersey IS already on them.
That's what occurred to me when I saw that MS didn't have any increases.
Great minds think alike. :-)
What about Mormon polygamists? Or men who worked in construction now unemployed?
An increase of those on food stamps from 99% to 106%.
Roughly the same percentage as voter registration increases.
The 173% increase figure for Nevada is ONLY feasible if the massive numbers of illegal immigrants working in the Las Vegas housing-construction-market-bubble, somehow managed to qualify for food stamps, and other citizen benefits.
How many of these cases are “going galt”?
Keep in mind that people who qualify for food stamps are likely to qualify for a bunch of other benefits for housing, transportation, energy assistance, tuition, child care, food (via WIC), and health care. If they work, they might get cash back via the EITC. The “in-kind” subsidies are not counted in measures of the poverty level.
“The 173% increase figure for Nevada is ONLY feasible if the massive numbers of illegal immigrants working in the Las Vegas housing-construction-market-bubble, somehow managed to qualify for food stamps, and other citizen benefits.”
Not necessarily, how many did they have on stamps in 2007? If the beginning number is very small it wouldn’t take many to account for a 173% increase.
I suppose that there are certain "marriages" in Utah that, legally to the Federal Goverment, appear as a man and wife, and several single, unemployed mothers.
I've been wondering if there is any validity check on the SSN when an illegal with fake ID applies for unemployment benefits, food stamps etc. My guess is there isn't.
Yes it would; because the housing boom in Vegas, at it’s height, acted as a self-perpetuating houses=jobs=houses=jobs machine, until the bubble burst, making the local construction trades the hardest and deepest hit segment of the local economy and those trades had a very high component of illegal employment. It is difficult to imagine the reduction in construction jobs NOT comprising a very high percentage of Vegas increases in unemployment.
Where they worked etc. is beside the point of what I said. If there were very few drawing food stamps before the crash then it would not take many new cases to account for a 173 percent increase. It is like the guy who brags that he made three times as much money last year as the year before but he leaves out the part where he only made five hundred dollars the year before so three times that is only fifteen hundred. It makes no difference about the details, I am only referring to mathematics. Without knowing the base figure the fact of a 173 percent increase tells me very little. Capice?
You may very well know the situation and be able to estimate how many illegals are on food stamps but that has no bearing on my statement which concerns only simple arithmetic.
Your are right, on your point - the math. The 173% does not tell us what the new level of beneficiaries is - 173% of what.?
So, Mea Culpa.
I should have stated my concern more generally, and less directly to the “173 %”, as in:
that ANY increase in the issuance of Food Stamps, or similar citizen benefits, in an area like Las Vegas, with it’s recent job/employment history (during the construction bubble), should cause legitimate question about the legitimacy of the numbers of those being added to the rolls of those getting the benefits, given the high rate there in Las Vegas of illegal employment and residence once supported by the construction bubble.
When the bubble ended, did they head south of the Rio Grand, like traditional seasonal agricultural workers, or stay to collect “benefits” until better times arrive.
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