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Mayo Vs. Medicare
Investors.com ^ | January 4, 2010 | INVESTORS BUSINESS DAILY Staff

Posted on 01/04/2010 4:54:26 PM PST by Kaslin

Health Reform: President Obama suggested last summer that the Mayo Clinic was the model for government medical care. On Monday, the Mayo Clinic in Arizona stopped taking Medicare patients. Now what?

If the nonprofit Mayo Clinic is "what works," as the president believes, then it's clear that government health care doesn't. If Washington can't manage a system with fewer than 50 million participants well enough for those who paid for it to get care, then it sure can't run a program that will eventually include every person in the country.

Obama's comment didn't go unnoticed at the Mayo Clinic. While it supports some elements of health reform, the famed practice known for its high-quality care said that under the Democrats' reforms the "real losers will be the citizens of the United States."

Though the Democrats' plans for medical care haven't become law, the losing has already begun for the roughly 3,000 Medicare patients served by the Mayo Clinic in Glendale, Ariz.

They will either have to pay cash for medical services or find other doctors who still accept patients in the government's health care program for the elderly. Those aren't enviable choices.

One, no American who has paid into the Medicare system for his or her entire working life wants to begin paying for health care out of his or her own pocket. It's cruel to force workers to fund a system they can't draw benefits from.

Two, doctors everywhere, not just at the Arizona Mayo Clinic, are dropping Medicare patients because of the government's meager reimbursements. And the pace of doctors opting out of the system will only pick up if $500 billion is slashed from Medicare funding, as is planned in Washington's health care reform, putting even more elderly Americans at risk.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: healthcare; mayoclinic; medicare; seniors

1 posted on 01/04/2010 4:54:27 PM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Look for the American Socialist Party controlled Congress to make it illegal to refuse Medicare under any circumstances.


2 posted on 01/04/2010 4:59:14 PM PST by Hardastarboard (Maureen Dowd is right. I DON'T like our President's color. He's a Red.)
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To: Kaslin

This was mentioned at a Townhall held by Sen. Russ Feingold this AM before an angry collection of constituents. The statement was made that the Wisconsin reimbursement formula is 7% of 80% of the charge for the Doctor. We will not be able to find doctors at all very soon.


3 posted on 01/04/2010 4:59:49 PM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic

I should add that if you do the math: If the bill is $100, Medicare says that 80% = $80 and they will reimburse the doctor $7. The rest is paid by medigap insureance, co-pays, and out of pocket. Of course that medigap ins. is mostly Medicare Advantage which they are taking away from us.


4 posted on 01/04/2010 5:02:14 PM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Kaslin

Students sharp enough to get in medical school have to be rethinking their choice. How many of our brightest will choose some other, less government controlled profession?


5 posted on 01/04/2010 5:03:00 PM PST by Graybeard58 ("Get lost, Mitt. You're the Eddie Haskell of the Republican party." (Finny))
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To: Kaslin
As long as it's Hellmans...

Oh, not that mayo?

6 posted on 01/04/2010 5:03:25 PM PST by COBOL2Java (Big government more or less guarantees rule by creeps and misfits.)
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To: Kaslin

What’s funny to me is that I saw the “other” Minnesota Senator (Amy Klobuchar) on TV a couple of weeks ago, and she was saying that the reason we need socialized medicine is that places like Florida don’t pay their fair share of the cost of taking care of the poor. On the other hand, the Mayo Clinic in her home state does a wonderful job of providing healthcare to those in need. She wants the State of Florida to start providing the same level of care that the State of Minnesota does thru the Mayo Clinic.


7 posted on 01/04/2010 5:07:21 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: afraidfortherepublic
This was mentioned at a Townhall held by Sen. Russ Feingold this AM before an angry collection of constituents.

Interesting... any observations of Kommisar Feingold's responses to the pointed questions I'm sure the crowd delivered?

8 posted on 01/04/2010 5:09:19 PM PST by doc11355
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To: afraidfortherepublic

And what was the response from Rusty?


9 posted on 01/04/2010 5:11:41 PM PST by Trust but Verify
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To: Kaslin
For many years, Mayo Clinic has made a large portion of their money from foreign citizen trying to escape their Universal Health Care System.
10 posted on 01/04/2010 5:13:28 PM PST by PushinTin (NEVER, argue with an idiot, they drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience!!)
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To: Kaslin

Hold the medical care.


11 posted on 01/04/2010 5:14:06 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (if you can read this you're too close.)
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To: Brilliant

That is totally idiotic, but not surprising from a liberal. I can only shake my head over such stupidity


12 posted on 01/04/2010 5:14:06 PM PST by Kaslin (Acronym for 0bama: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Hardastarboard
"Look for the American Socialist Party controlled Congress to make it illegal to refuse Medicare under any circumstances."

Oh absolutely. It's probably already in the 2,000+ pages. Since when are slaves allowed to choose the work they do?

13 posted on 01/04/2010 5:36:39 PM PST by The Good Doctor (Democracy is the only system where you can vote for a tax that you can avoid the obligation to pay.)
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To: Kaslin

While Congress might try to force health care facilities to accept Medicare, I would expect that the Mayo Clinic and other major clinics will soon be opening facilities in foreign countries catering to moneyed Americans who will not tolerate the waiting and rationing of Obamacare.


14 posted on 01/04/2010 6:09:02 PM PST by The Great RJ ("The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money." M. Thatcher)
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To: Kaslin

Stepping in Obama’s face. Good


15 posted on 01/04/2010 6:37:02 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Kaslin
Doctors are not going to provide health care at a loss. And the Democrats can't force them to.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find only things evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelogus

16 posted on 01/04/2010 7:00:49 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Kaslin

Thanks Kaslin, another great article from IBD!


17 posted on 01/04/2010 7:19:12 PM PST by CPT Clay (Pick up your weapon and follow me.)
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To: doc11355

I would love to hear more about Feingold’s town hall and the reception he received.


18 posted on 01/04/2010 7:25:11 PM PST by mwl8787
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To: doc11355; Trust but Verify

Feingold answered very few questions, and he lied about half of those. He came off as a slippery pol, but the good people of Ozaukee County did not buy any of it. I cannot tell you how many times that crowd (200-300) raked him over the coals about answering all their letters and emails with the same letter full of non-answers. But, he did say that if Wisconsin hospitals try to cut off Medicare patients (a la Mayo) that the Government “would have to act”.

I’ve been active politically for more than 20 years here, and I knew some of the people in the crowd. But there were a lot of people that I’ve never seen before, and they were all “mad as He** and not going to take it any more!”

He had only 2 supporters among those who spoke, and they came off badly. Both left before the meeting was over. The prevailing sentiment in the crowd was that they had become afraid fo their government for the first time in their lives.


19 posted on 01/04/2010 9:29:42 PM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: mwl8787

Go to the Wiconsin page by clicking on Locale and scrolling down the page and clicking on Wisconsin. There are reports from two of us who attended the Town Halls today — one in Washington County and one in Ozaukee County.


20 posted on 01/04/2010 9:32:37 PM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: mwl8787

I should have said look for Account at the top of the page — then go to My Locale — then click Wisconsin. His reception was poor at both meetings, but he didn’t seem to care — called us “you conservatives” and indicated that our votes against him would be offset by solid support that he has in other parts of the state. I certainly hope that he is wrong.


21 posted on 01/04/2010 9:37:01 PM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: The Great RJ

Mayo already had a clinic/hospital in Dubai (?) So they are no longer getting as many Saudi patients as they had in the past. Those are being treated in their own country.


22 posted on 01/04/2010 11:43:16 PM PST by tickles
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Thanks for the recap. Feingold is a wimp, scheduling his listening sessions during working hours for those of us still lucky enough to have jobs!


23 posted on 01/05/2010 4:05:30 AM PST by Trust but Verify
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Good. This means that Feingold is in denial and is whistling past the graveyard.

Someone needs to set up an ongoing live thread of Town Halls and the receptions that representatives and senators are getting from coast to coast. More broadly, why there is no coordination among various factions opposed to this monstrosity is a mystery to me. I work 60+ hours a week in the private sector. Right to Life, Chamber of Commerce, NFIB, talk radio, tons of organizations need to get their crap together and wake up.


24 posted on 01/05/2010 6:17:13 AM PST by mwl8787
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