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Pilot furious at U.S. for silence on bomb
CNN ^ | January 5, 2010 | Steve Danyluk

Posted on 01/05/2010 8:22:58 AM PST by BulletBobCo

(CNN) -- Following the attempt to bomb a passenger jet on Christmas Day, President Obama said that "once the suspect attempted to take down Flight 253, it's clear Homeland Security and Aviation Security took all appropriate actions."

I am a commercial airline pilot who was deep over the Atlantic flying from St. Kitts and Nevis for nearly six hours on Christmas Day following the attempted bombing on Flight 253.

I only learned about the incident after landing when I looked at the CNN Web site on my iPhone. I'm justifiably furious that I was not notified while airborne.

Our government clearly dropped the ball. President Obama has ordered a review into the intelligence failures leading up to the attempted Christmas Day bombing by Umar Farouk AbdulMutallab, but an equally important review needs to be made into how events were handled once AbdulMutallab attempted to carry out his plan.

Specifically, why weren't the actions the Transportation Safety Administration outlines in our aviation manuals initiated, and what took place inside the federal Domestic Events Network in the immediate aftermath of the terror attempt?

Following the 9/11 review, the DEN was given the task of instituting new procedures for controllers on how to communicate information about suspicious aircraft throughout the system.

The Washington-based DEN Operations Center is supposed to allow federal agencies with jurisdiction over the security of U.S. airspace to communicate information in real time. So why, after eight years and billions of dollars, was the information concerning the incident available to me only on my iPhone?

Like many commercial pilots, I flew in the military. There, each squadron maintains something called a pre-mishap plan. Basically, it's a three-ring binder with a series of actions the watch officer is supposed to take when a mishap happens.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: alqaedaattack; aviation; christmasattack; derelictionofduty; detroitbombplot; flight253; homelandsecurity; napalitano; nationalsecurity; obamalies; youlie
Editor's note: Steve Danyluk is an international first officer for a major U.S. airline and president of The Independence Fund, a nonprofit that supports troops wounded in the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.


1 posted on 01/05/2010 8:22:58 AM PST by BulletBobCo
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To: BulletBobCo

11 days after the incident, Barry has a meeting on the subject.


2 posted on 01/05/2010 8:24:58 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Impeachment !)
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To: BulletBobCo

But Homeland Security insists that everyone (except the president himself) was notified within 60-90 minutes. I guess not.


3 posted on 01/05/2010 8:26:10 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Beware the Green Menace, the socialists warning you of global warming under your bed are hysteric.)
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To: BulletBobCo

Our government clearly dropped the ball. President Obama has ordered a review into the intelligence failures leading up to the attempted Christmas Day bombing by Umar Farouk AbdulMutallab, but an equally important review needs to be made into how events were handled once AbdulMutallab attempted to carry out his plan.

Specifically, why weren’t the actions the Transportation Safety Administration outlines in our aviation manuals initiated, and what took place inside the federal Domestic Events Network in the immediate aftermath of the terror attempt?

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Didn’t he get the message from Napolitano?

The System Worked.


4 posted on 01/05/2010 8:26:36 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (During this joyous Christmas season, I'd like you to know....A reindeer bit my sister once.)
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To: BulletBobCo

“Specifically, why weren’t the actions the Transportation Safety Administration outlines in our aviation manuals initiated, and what took place inside the federal Domestic Events Network in the immediate aftermath of the terror attempt?”

Well, Captain....as a start I’d say it is because we have an incompetent leading(?) the nation and bunch of his handpicked fools running it!


5 posted on 01/05/2010 8:27:02 AM PST by JimVT (Oh, the days of the Kerry dancing, Oh, the ring of the piper's tune)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Vacation’s over.


6 posted on 01/05/2010 8:28:10 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Beware the Green Menace, the socialists warning you of global warming under your bed are hysteric.)
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To: BulletBobCo
"President Obama said that "once the suspect attempted to take down Flight 253, it's clear [that] Homeland Security and Aviation Security took all appropriate actions."

What an A-hole.

7 posted on 01/05/2010 8:28:36 AM PST by HighWheeler
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

By the way, who’s playing the White House this week at the Wednesday concert series?


8 posted on 01/05/2010 8:28:36 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Beware the Green Menace, the socialists warning you of global warming under your bed are hysteric.)
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To: BulletBobCo
What did Obama know and when did he know it?
9 posted on 01/05/2010 8:30:03 AM PST by McGruff (We're Going Rogue Baby!)
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To: BulletBobCo

I hope this fellow isn’t holding his breath waiting for any answers from the Obama administration. Maybe their spokesman will tell him he is the problem, not the terrorists, or some other line of democrat B.S.!


10 posted on 01/05/2010 8:30:27 AM PST by geezerwheezer (get up boys, we're burnin' daylight!!!)
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To: a fool in paradise

Not only that but Obama claimed in his speech that immediately after the bombing attempt he took action to ensure that all the flights in the air were safe.

LIAR!!

He wasn’t even notified for 90 minutes!


11 posted on 01/05/2010 8:30:59 AM PST by ladyjane
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To: JimVT

We need a vote of No Confidence in the govt.


12 posted on 01/05/2010 8:31:34 AM PST by Hoosier-Daddy ("It does no good to be a super power if you have to worry what the neighbors think." BuffaloJack)
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To: BulletBobCo

What a crybaby!
How dare he value his passenger’s life above O’s desire to get a tan! /s


13 posted on 01/05/2010 8:32:19 AM PST by ActrFshr
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To: BulletBobCo

Obama doesn’t care. He’s got his ride, and there’s no threat of terrorism there. As for the rest of us - well, suuucckkaaahs!


14 posted on 01/05/2010 8:34:51 AM PST by livius
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To: BulletBobCo

Why is he complaining. Didn’t he get the word - the system worked. How often while in flight does he receive system worked communications?


15 posted on 01/05/2010 8:35:21 AM PST by edcoil (If I had 1 cent for every dollar the government saved, Bill Gates and I would be friends.)
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To: McGruff

Nappy lied and Obamao swore to it when he agreed that other airlines were notified of the attempted downing of the aircraft over Detroit.

Very few pilots were notified and the rest were left in the dark.

The pilot’s association has already made this failure public and issued a complaint.

The msm has been silent on this blatant lie told by nappy and dopey.


16 posted on 01/05/2010 8:36:12 AM PST by Carley (OBAMA IS A MALEVOLENT FORCE IN THE WORLD)
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To: Hoosier-Daddy

We need to start talking IMPEACMENT


17 posted on 01/05/2010 8:36:43 AM PST by Carley (OBAMA IS A MALEVOLENT FORCE IN THE WORLD)
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To: a fool in paradise

Before Homeland Security it didn’t take 60-90 minutes to alert Bush. What the hell are these people doing?


18 posted on 01/05/2010 8:38:32 AM PST by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
11 days after the incident, Barry has a meeting on the subject.

Did you ever read the book Dereliction of Duty by Robert "Buzz"Patterson? He was Clinton's military aide and detailed how Clinton was more interested in playing golf than taking down terrorists. Someone in the Obama inner circle probably has more than enough ammo to pen Dereliction of Duty II.

19 posted on 01/05/2010 8:38:43 AM PST by Harley (Life is Tough, But It's a Lot Tougher When You're a Liberal. Stop Global Whining Now.)
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To: a fool in paradise
I thought I heard Napalitano say that the system worked AFTER the incident because all flights in the air were notified. Must have been my imagination.
20 posted on 01/05/2010 8:39:12 AM PST by Kickass Conservative (It wasn't the eight years of Bush - Cheney, It was the last two years of Pelosi - Reid.)
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To: BulletBobCo

Once again the Obama staff is caught lying.

It seems Obama and his staff believe that a lie is better than the truth.

Goodness, it must keep them awake all night trying to remember every lie that spoke the prior day.


21 posted on 01/05/2010 8:47:21 AM PST by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
It's essential that we beat that drum incessently: It took Obama 11 DAYS to react to the Christmas Day bombing attempt.

11 DAYS!!!

The leftist media endlessly played Pres. Bush's expression of shock and justifiable incomprehension when told of the attack on the WTC in front of a kindergarten class. They faulted him for calmly continuing until the scheduled conclusion of his visit.

No one can deny that once he departed that classroom it was "go time".

11 DAYS!!!

11 DAYS!!!

11 DAYS!!!

22 posted on 01/05/2010 8:50:00 AM PST by Oratam
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To: BulletBobCo

“Like many commercial pilots, I flew in the military.”

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Ahah! There is the problem. As a veteran, the author is a probable suspect enemy of the State, along with Christians and Constitutionalists! A good thing that DHS has profiled THESE potential threats, and that we have Tin Janet as Sword and Shield of the State!

Thank you Barack Hussein Obama!

Thank you Southern Poverty Law Center!

Your levels of intellectual prowess have never been seen in our leadership before . . .

(I really am sincere on that last point)


23 posted on 01/05/2010 8:53:27 AM PST by Psalm 144 (What did you think NEW WORLD ORDER meant? The Constitution? States' rights? Individual liberty?)
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To: Republic of Texas

Before Homeland Security it didn’t take 60-90 minutes to alert Bush. What the hell are these people doing?
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Collecting checks.


24 posted on 01/05/2010 8:55:57 AM PST by Psalm 144 (What did you think NEW WORLD ORDER meant? The Constitution? States' rights? Individual liberty?)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Barry was on vacation. Would you want your vacation interrupted by stupid Presidential duties? (sarc)


25 posted on 01/05/2010 9:01:40 AM PST by castlegreyskull
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To: a fool in paradise

The system worked!


26 posted on 01/05/2010 9:02:23 AM PST by castlegreyskull
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To: livius

Obama would have cared if that plane violated that 30 mile radius no-fly zone that he had established.


27 posted on 01/05/2010 9:04:18 AM PST by castlegreyskull
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
11 days after the incident, Barry has a meeting on the subject.

And THIS is the outfit that will run a "better, more efficient Health Care system that will save money?"

28 posted on 01/05/2010 9:04:48 AM PST by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: BulletBobCo

hmmmmm.

According to Napolitano, they were notified.

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December 28, 2009
source: TMP LiveWire
29 posted on 01/05/2010 9:07:32 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: Carley
We need to start talking IMPEACHMENT

Great idea! Let's see, 'Rat controlled House, 'Rat controlled Senate, Nazi Pelosi runs the former, Dirty Harry Reid the latter, how far you think it's gonna get?

Thanks for the chuckle.
30 posted on 01/05/2010 9:08:20 AM PST by mkjessup (If you admire, support and make excuses for RINOs (like George W Bush) that makes YOU a RINO!)
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To: BulletBobCo

Well heck... they didn’t even bother to notify the President for over three hours.


31 posted on 01/05/2010 9:18:56 AM PST by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: Republic of Texas
Bush was criticized for continuing to talk to school children and not reacting at that very moment on 9-11 .i must be a racist if we question what the usurper does/doesn't do on any given day
32 posted on 01/05/2010 9:34:54 AM PST by mt tom (WE)
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To: mt tom

He didn’t do anything, and probably wouldn’t have even if the attack was successful. (other than a quick private thanks to Allah the Beneficent) There, I said and I ain’t ashamed of it either!


33 posted on 01/05/2010 9:41:11 AM PST by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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To: BulletBobCo

0bamao has his big meeting today as a CYA, so when the next plane isn’t so lucky and rains down in pieces after one of his muzzie brothers blows it up. In reality, Hussein couldn’t care less about the people on board.


34 posted on 01/05/2010 9:45:42 AM PST by The Sons of Liberty (Pork Eating CRUSADER - FUBO! Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin)
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To: The Sons of Liberty

bttt


35 posted on 01/05/2010 9:56:01 AM PST by Guenevere (....)
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To: Republic of Texas

Perhaps ‘O’ didn’t need to be notified?

(Think about it while contemplating the identity of the “sharply dressed man.”)


36 posted on 01/05/2010 10:04:53 AM PST by Tucson_AZ
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To: HighWheeler

That’s assuming that anyone had a clue what the proper procedures were.


37 posted on 01/05/2010 10:14:24 AM PST by greatplains
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To: Oratam

Wasn’t 0bama notified at 9:?? Hawaii time?

9 o’clock
11 days


38 posted on 01/05/2010 12:02:43 PM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah."Our middle regiment, Gloria Patri, Filio et Spirito Sancto.)
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To: BulletBobCo

bttt


39 posted on 01/05/2010 1:12:44 PM PST by Guenevere (....)
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To: Carley
We need to start talking IMPEACHMENT

BUMP...BUMP....BUMP and on til its DONE!

40 posted on 01/05/2010 2:57:34 PM PST by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannolis. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: BulletBobCo

I don’t believe that Obama gives a rat’s @$$. THere could have been multiple “bombers” readying to explode the a/c they were on, and none of the pilots were alerted to the fact. Sickening.


41 posted on 01/05/2010 3:03:31 PM PST by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL (****************************Stop Continental Drift**)
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To: TomGuy

I dont know but 128 air craft does not sound like very many planes, I would think there would be a lot more...


42 posted on 01/05/2010 5:44:16 PM PST by JoanneSD
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To: Carley; McGruff

When Obama addressed the nation he said the first thing he did was to insure the safety of all planes in the air.

That was such baloney. He wasn’t even informed until 90 minutes after it happened.


43 posted on 01/05/2010 5:52:17 PM PST by ladyjane
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To: livius

The irony of O’s little daughter saying she liked that it was easier getting on a plane with her dad President.


44 posted on 01/05/2010 5:58:34 PM PST by Carley (OBAMA IS A MALEVOLENT FORCE IN THE WORLD)
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To: JoanneSD
Right now - kinda late - there's some 3000+ flights in the air across the US - 128 midday? 3 per state? Not even close.

Flightaware.Com

If you have quicktime this is a good animated graphic: Animation of all flight movements tracked by FlightAware during a typical 24-hour period.

45 posted on 01/05/2010 7:36:12 PM PST by Tunehead54 (Nothing funny here ;-)
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