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Attorney Stephen Pidgeon to Glenn Beck
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Posted on 01/05/2010 7:16:47 PM PST by Man50D

Attorney Stephen Pidgeon is one of the lawyers involved in the B.C. issue. He is currently working with Leo Donofrio on the Chrysler lawsuit. Below is his letter to Glenn Beck. Great job, Stephen! S.B.

Dear Mr. Beck:

You are ill-informed on the “birther” issue. Barack Obama, by his own admission, was a British subject at birth. He has never denied having a Kenyan father, who himself was a British subject as a Kenyan native. This is easly established under the British Nationality Act of 1948. He is therefore disqualified to run for the office of the President, because the office is not available to subjects of other governments. The issue is very simple, and very obvious. Obama himself admitted that he wasn’t a natural born citizen when he debated Alan Keyes in 2004.

Let’s see you deal with this one. There is nothing “nutty” about it, and it doesn’t depend on whether his maternal grandmother tried to cover up a foreign birth in Hawaii by placing newspaper notices. It is as plain as your face. BHO is a foreign national first, and an American secondarily, if at all. That is why he thinks there are 57 states; why he doesn’t understand the constitution; why he wants to give us Britain’s health care system (it’s all in the teeth, don’t you know); why he thinks Interpol should have greater authority in the US than US law enforcement; etc. He is a British subject and has no business holding the office of POTUS.

If you think you can overlook this constitutional crisis as not part of the Rubicon, you are mistaken. One constitutional overlook breeds another and the next thing you know, the financial industry is nationalized, the auto industry is nationalized, the health care industry is about to be nationalized, and the energy industry will soon be nationalized.

Ultimately, it is all going to be okay, because socialism only lasts until other people’s money (OPM) runs out, and binge spender BHO has spent all the money we have and all the money we will ever have for the next several generations. He spent all of this before he got his socialist healthcare on the table. He and his wife have partied like Eddie Murphy in The Distinguished Gentleman (1992) since taking office, while he has busied himself with overthrowing the constitutional republic, establishing a new Islamic empire worldwide, disarming and crippling America, and unilaterally dividing Israel and Jerusalem. The only budget constraint for Obama is ink and paper (and he is working his way around that) and his foreign policy advisor appears to be “mirror, mirror on the wall”. He has bankrupted the nation, which the sleeping Oprah watchers are now discovering for the very first time. The reality of the bankruptcy will hit home with gusto in 2010. Not only will we suffer with 30% unemployment, a complete collapse of real estate, and a complete collapse of the dollar, we will also suffer the slings and arrows of dramatic military defeats, as we let this foreigner steer the ship of state. Most Americans have no idea how bad it is going to get.

As for Obama: he will be one of history’s most reviled figures – on a par with Nero – as a fool who couldn’t even understand that when he denigrated the United States, he was destroying the very state upon which his safety and his legacy depended. He will suffer dramatic defeat in Afghanistan and Iraq – it will not be like Viet Nam, and his name will be tarred with it. It will be more like the disastrous defeat of Xerxes at Salamis, or the Ottomans at Sisek, or the Moors at Tours; a game changing defeat that will forever cement the destiny of the republic known as the United States of America. Obama will join the other names in history who suffered cataclysmic losses in the lands of Magog.

His legacy? A communist, collectivist fool, brainwashed by red diaper doper babies haunting the halls of ivy league academia whose agenda was to bring back the failed Bolshevik revolution worldwide, who brought his fully bloomed ignorance to power illegally in the US because of the needs of his narcissistic ego, whose illegitimacy caused the US to go bankrupt and to suffer its worst military setbacks in the history of the nation in just a few short months. History will marvel at the foolishness of Americans, and historians will wonder how we as a people could have allowed this to happen. Then, of course, historians will ultimately conclude that the demise of the greatest nation the world had ever known happened because the watchdogs whose duty it was to warn Americans of such possibilities – the so-called news media – conspired with foreign powers and global financial criminals to destroy America from the inside, as a result of their cowardice, malevolence and silence.

Contributing member: Glenn Beck, who simply could not bring himself to utter the truth about Obama – that he is a usurper, holding the presidency illegally and unconstitutionally, because he is without a legal birthright. Let us never forget who shirked their duty to tell the truth in these last hours, and let us not allow history to forget.

STEPHEN PIDGEON


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1 posted on 01/05/2010 7:16:48 PM PST by Man50D
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To: penelopesire; seekthetruth; television is just wrong; jcsjcm; BP2; Pablo Mac; April Lexington; ...

WOW ! He said a mouthful ... PING!


2 posted on 01/05/2010 7:20:55 PM PST by STARWISE (.They (LIBS-STILL) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war- Richard Miniter)
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To: Man50D

And be sure and hold your breath waiting for SCOTUS to hear the case.


3 posted on 01/05/2010 7:22:07 PM PST by the long march
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To: Man50D; bgill; Whenifhow; malkee; STE=Q; rocco55; thouworm; rxsid; GOPJ; Fred Nerks; ...
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Attorney Stephen Pidgeon's Letter to Glenn Beck.

4 posted on 01/05/2010 7:24:09 PM PST by LucyT
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To: LucyT; STARWISE

Thanks for the ping.

I am praying nightly for Leo and Stephen and the success of their case.


5 posted on 01/05/2010 7:25:41 PM PST by thecodont
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To: Man50D

So I am guessing that Pidgeon will produce the video where Obama admits he is not a natural born citizen in a debate with Keyes. Or not.


6 posted on 01/05/2010 7:26:09 PM PST by newheart ("It will keep the government out of your health care decisions..." Barack Obama, July 23, 2009)
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To: Man50D

Any response from Beck?


7 posted on 01/05/2010 7:29:12 PM PST by ADSUM (Democracy works when citizens get involved and keep government honest.)
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To: Man50D

This whole birther mess makes us conservatives look like kooks. What’s the harm of having a usurper as President? After all the people voted for him. If we drop the subject, then maybe we can get this usurper elected again in 2012. /Freeper BC trolls and mental defective league


8 posted on 01/05/2010 7:30:07 PM PST by Electric Graffiti (Well, we didn't get dressed up for nothin')
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To: Man50D

I love Glenn Beck, and I think he has done much to open the eyes of the American people. But to just offhandedly dump the idea that Obama is not eligible to be President is just insane.

At least he spend as much research on this one as he has done on everything else he has preached, would only increase his credibility. Find what he can, give it to the American public and let the rest of us make a decision.


9 posted on 01/05/2010 7:30:52 PM PST by doc1019 (To call Obama a bumbling idiot would be an insult to bumbling idiots worldwide.)
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To: newheart

So I am guessing that Pidgeon (or someone, anyone, else) will produce the video where Obama admits he is not a natural born citizen in a debate with Keyes in 2004. Should I begin holding my breath now?


10 posted on 01/05/2010 7:35:19 PM PST by newheart ("It will keep the government out of your health care decisions..." Barack Obama, July 23, 2009)
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To: Man50D

Very well written.

But my opinion from readings, this issue of parental lineage won’t go anywhere. It should, because SCOTUS needs to make a decision on it, but Zero wins or loses on the foreign born birth. That will take a heavy hitting well-funded legal team. Of course, as things get worse and worse, never know what could influence SCOTUS to change their minds.


11 posted on 01/05/2010 7:35:24 PM PST by TheBigJ
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To: Man50D

I didn’t hear Glenn discuss this in full context, but I would say this. I don’t dismiss the charge, because there is no reason for the Obama team to put so much time effort and money in derailing these cases when there is an easier solution - disclose the documents.

On the other hand, it can’t be the main focus of opposition because voters are going to vote based on their own situations. They need a reason to vote for the alternative. The focus needs to be on shining a light on bad policies and presenting alternatives. If one of the many lawyers active in this turns up some significant evidence of a problem, then it would be time to get focused to this issue. Right now there is no smoking gun that would make the public view this as anything but conspiracy.


12 posted on 01/05/2010 7:35:56 PM PST by ilgipper
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To: All

Guess those demands that Beck cover the eligibility issue didn’t work out so well.


13 posted on 01/05/2010 7:36:08 PM PST by JustaDumbBlonde
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To: Man50D
The ignorance of the public on "Natural Born Citizen" law is mind numbing. If asked, they just say you have to be born on American soil. They have no concept of the argument and start name calling within 15 seconds. The question of Obama's father's nationality means nothing to 90% of the public. He has admitted such and it is easily provable. All we have to do is get before a judge.

Good luck with that. They know a shooting revolution is coming and want to put it off.

14 posted on 01/05/2010 7:36:31 PM PST by chuckles
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To: Electric Graffiti
"This whole birther mess makes us conservatives look like kooks."

No, it makes the birthers look like kooks, but that would be kinda redundant.

15 posted on 01/05/2010 7:38:25 PM PST by JustaDumbBlonde
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To: Electric Graffiti
I don't think that is Beck's point, although I am guessing.

My guess is that what Beck is driving at is that you can not get a case heard and if heard, not settled for years past 2012.

A simple ordinary civil case can take 3 years to get to court and many more years of appeals.

And this is not a simple case.

By that time 2012 will have come and been long gone.

If the same effort were to be put on electing a conservative congress in 2010, thus denying Obummer, the Marxist now posing as a Fascist, the legislation he desires, it will not matter whether he occupies the Red House until 2012. He will have been castrated.

You can not hurry the legal process.

But we stop his program if we get a conservative congress.

16 posted on 01/05/2010 7:40:23 PM PST by old curmudgeon
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To: LucyT; STARWISE
I’ve been working on a lette two, but not nearly as good as Stephen...Maybe we all should send short missles.
17 posted on 01/05/2010 7:45:28 PM PST by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: Man50D

Probably should have written that letter before the attack on Glenn yesterday.


18 posted on 01/05/2010 7:48:54 PM PST by Balding_Eagle (If America falls, islam will cover the earth with darkness for a thousand years.)
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To: Man50D
A communist, collectivist fool, brainwashed by red diaper doper babies haunting the halls of ..

Isn't that a Mike Savage saying?

19 posted on 01/05/2010 7:49:31 PM PST by plinyelder ("If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." Thomas Paine)
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To: Man50D

I truly believe that this letter will go down as one of the most powerful statements of truth in our history. I plan to keep and read it often. Americans are asleep at the wheel and it all happened in the blink of an eye. May God help us for we are in our darkest hour.


20 posted on 01/05/2010 7:53:37 PM PST by scottiemom ("As a Texas public school teacher, I would highly recommend private school")
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To: old curmudgeon
Ah....so the hell with bringing this issue into the public dialogue. It's better to mock people than to explore the fact that Obama is a blank slate. NO RECORDS whatsoever. No security risk there....

Question with boldness but not Ogabe's ineligibility...hey Beck?



21 posted on 01/05/2010 7:56:01 PM PST by Electric Graffiti (Well, we didn't get dressed up for nothin')
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To: JustaDumbBlonde

Yes you are.


22 posted on 01/05/2010 7:57:01 PM PST by Electric Graffiti (Well, we didn't get dressed up for nothin')
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To: Man50D

I like Boston T Party’s recommendation of sending your best groups (target-firearm) to your congressional delegates,

and thanking them for continuing to preserve the Bill of Rights.....


23 posted on 01/05/2010 7:57:09 PM PST by gettinolder (Smashed lips save ships.)
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To: Man50D

bttt


24 posted on 01/05/2010 7:57:11 PM PST by bvw
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To: Man50D

“If you think you can overlook this constitutional crisis as not part of the Rubicon, you are mistaken. One constitutional overlook breeds another and the next thing you know, the financial industry is nationalized, the auto industry is nationalized, the health care industry is about to be nationalized, and the energy industry will soon be nationalized.”

OH SNAP!!!


26 posted on 01/05/2010 8:00:02 PM PST by Smokeyblue
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To: newheart

It wasn’t DURING the debate, it was right after it. It was on You Tube then disappeared. But don’t worry. It was saved by some and will reappear when the time is right. ;)


27 posted on 01/05/2010 8:00:22 PM PST by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: JustaDumbBlonde
Guess those demands that Beck cover the eligibility issue didn’t work out so well.

Yep, they tried to force Beck's hand and all they got was his middle finger.

28 posted on 01/05/2010 8:00:33 PM PST by Drew68
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To: newheart

Yes, but you will have to hold it until the time is right.


29 posted on 01/05/2010 8:01:13 PM PST by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: mojitojoe
It was saved by some and will reappear when the time is right.

Kinda like the Great Pumpkin?


30 posted on 01/05/2010 8:02:30 PM PST by Drew68
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To: Man50D

Holy Moley. I can’t decide which smack down I like best. It’s chock full of dooseys. Finally some truth to power. Rock on.


31 posted on 01/05/2010 8:03:47 PM PST by Smokeyblue
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To: newheart
Obama admits he's a dual born citizen on his own website. A believe it was fly kites with queers.

This is from Barry's own State Dept.:

"The U.S. Government recognizes that dual nationality exists but does not encourage it as a matter of policy because of the problems it may cause. Claims of other countries on dual national U.S. citizens may conflict with U.S. law, and dual nationality may limit U.S. Government efforts to assist citizens abroad. The country where a dual national is located generally has a stronger claim to that person's allegiance. "Source

Do you think the language would have been stronger if they thought that a dual national [In Barry's case a quad-national] would become Commander and chief of our Armed Forces? /sarc

32 posted on 01/05/2010 8:06:21 PM PST by Electric Graffiti (Well, we didn't get dressed up for nothin')
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To: Electric Graffiti

The point is: Do you want to stop him from ruining or country or do you just want to be right.

In the year 2015 or 2016 you can brag that you were right.

Maybe.

But by then he will have ruined the country.

It has been almost one year since the inauguration and as yet there has not been one single court case that has actually gone to trial.

So maybe in two or three years you will find someone the courts consider to have standing, a judge that is willing to hear the case...and then the legal game begins.

There are probably a 1,000 ways to delay a case and if there are, I can assure you that every single one will be taken advantage of.

As a matter of fact, I agree that Obummer, the Marxist now posing as a Fascist, is very likely not qualified under the Constitution to be president but spending 5 to 10 years to prove it is not going to keep him from ruining the country.


33 posted on 01/05/2010 8:08:35 PM PST by old curmudgeon
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To: old curmudgeon

You guessed right!

GLENN: Yeah. So why would you discredit yourself? Why would let’s say it’s true. Let’s just say it’s true that he’s not. Do you really think that is the fastest way to get him out? Do you really think that’s the fastest way to stop him from what I believe is the fundamental transformation of this country? Do you think that’s going to stop healthcare?

STU: No.

GLENN: If you could, if, if you could hold his feet to the fire and say, “Produce the doctors and the nurses and the birth certificate” and somehow or another he couldn’t do it, how long would it take you to get to that point? And in that point, in that time how much of the fundamental trans do you still have control of the court system in that time?

PAT: You should be able to get that to the Supreme Court by about 2015 1/2. I’d say by late October 2015.

http://www.glennbeck.com/content/articles/article/198/34625/


34 posted on 01/05/2010 8:08:43 PM PST by Seizethecarp
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To: Man50D
Beck still won't give the eligibility issue the time of day. As much as I love his stands on nearly every issue, he will continue to ignore it and refer to birther patriots as kooks.

I don't know if it's his decision or that of his employer, but the end result is the same - deafening silence...

35 posted on 01/05/2010 8:09:51 PM PST by thecraw (God allows evil. God allowed Barry to usurp the highest office in the land. God will not be mocked.)
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To: Man50D; LucyT

To be fair to Beck, the reason he lost his temper and badmouthed the birthers was because they set up plan to have everyone phone in on the same day to his show and demand that he address the birther issue.

Unfortunately, Beck was talking about something else on his show, but this plan ensured that no one else could get through on the phone. It threatened to wreck his talk show. I happen to agree that Beck and Rush should be discussing this issue, but that ain’t the way to get them to do it.

Beck and Rush don’t need to say that Obama is an illegal immigrant, although he probably is. But they do need to report on the facts, and on the most basic fact of all: That Obama is, in complicity with the media, hiding ALL of his past records, and is refusing to provide a valid birth certificate to lay these doubts to rest.

Although blocking the phone lines was a poor tactic, I certainly agree that the birth issue is REAL and urgent. There is no longer any question about it. Obama is a fraud and a criminal conspirator, at the very least. Probably he is a Kenyan Communist Muslim with, currently, Indonesian citizenship. So I thoroughly enjoyed reading this letter—which I heartily agree with.

Beck made a big mistake insulting the Birthers, who happen to be his base. But they made a mistake provoking him like that. Maybe we can arrive at some sensible agreement here.


36 posted on 01/05/2010 8:10:00 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Man50D

If you ever need any help I’m usually around here pretty steadily at 2am om Alaska time, or 3am Pacific.

I do not follow any of the pinger packs here but if you do that sort of thing then add me to your list.


37 posted on 01/05/2010 8:11:49 PM PST by Eye of Unk (Phobos, kerdos, and doxa, said the Time Traveler. “Fear, self-interest, and honor.”)
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To: Man50D

I really didn’t appreciate Beck’s wiseguy approach to this. He spent one hour hammering the birthers in his first 2010 broadcast. He was laughing with Pat and Stu

I will nor be listening to Glen for a while. He came off like a hack

I think just the fact that 0bongos dad is Kenyan/British subject is enough to disqualify him from being natural born. But which judges care enough about the Constitution to ever rule on that the way it should be ruled? The same way Chester A Arthur was not natural born he had a British father and took great pains to hide it


38 posted on 01/05/2010 8:13:12 PM PST by dennisw (It all comes 'round again --Fairport)
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To: plinyelder

Yes it is. That why the style of the writing lead me to believe Stephen Pidgeon was a psuedonymn under Savage.


39 posted on 01/05/2010 8:14:10 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: old curmudgeon

The point is to get the facts to the public so they don’t re-elect this POS usurper. Get it? The courts may or may not move quickly on this. We simply don’t know.

If this issue is not explored in depth[as has been done on FR], there’s a good chance Ogabe will be re-elected in 2012. Thanks to fair-weather pusilanimous ‘conservatives’ like Glenn Beck.


40 posted on 01/05/2010 8:15:34 PM PST by Electric Graffiti (Well, we didn't get dressed up for nothin')
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To: little jeremiah

Thread ping.


41 posted on 01/05/2010 8:18:03 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: mojitojoe

;-) My mistake. I’ll just have to wait till the time is right. Kind of like I am still waiting for Larry Nichols evidence against the Clintons. Or Sinclair’s evidence of Obama’s cocaine induced sexual escapades.

The republic is being destroyed and people are more interested in the sideshows.


42 posted on 01/05/2010 8:20:57 PM PST by newheart ("It will keep the government out of your health care decisions..." Barack Obama, July 23, 2009)
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To: Cicero
Ok, forget the bc for right now. Why can't Beck and company demand college records and doctors records? What is BO hiding> It's a perfectly legitimate question and should be discussed.
43 posted on 01/05/2010 8:21:10 PM PST by dandiegirl
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To: Cicero
It threatened to wreck his talk show. I happen to agree that Beck and Rush should be discussing this issue, but that ain’t the way to get them to do it.

Beck's success or failure is driven by the people who listen to his show and make the calls. His ratings are demand driven. If any talk they better listen to their audience instead of ridiculing them or those hosts will not only loose a significant portion but will quickly experience their listeners turning on them.

Beck and Rush don’t need to say that Obama is an illegal immigrant, although he probably is

Oh yes they do! They need to speak up as much as the millions nationwide who are speaking up with increasing veracity otherwise they will end up speaking to themselves.

But they made a mistake provoking him like that. Maybe we can arrive at some sensible agreement here.

What Beck experienced is the result of growing anger that is now bubbling to the surface. It will not get any better for him by ignoring the issue and denouncing those who have a legitimate concern for the Constitution being usurped.

Keep in mind last year Conservatives nationwide marched on many media outlets because they were upset the socialist media was ignoring the Conservative cause but for some reason that was acceptable. Now more Conservatives are once again putting pressure on the media but for some irrational reason Beck is being treated as both a victim and a sacred cow.
44 posted on 01/05/2010 8:24:16 PM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! www.FairTaxNation.com)
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To: newheart
So I am guessing that Pidgeon (or someone, anyone, else) will produce the video where Obama admits he is not a natural born citizen in a debate with Keyes in 2004.

Yeah, I kinda stopped reading when I hit that. It's a bad sign when an attorney is citing phantom evidence that isn't online, no one seems to have a copy of, no one can firmly state when it occurred, and Alan Keyes' own campaign has denied ever happened or existed.

45 posted on 01/05/2010 8:30:59 PM PST by LorenC
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To: Electric Graffiti
The people that voted for Obummer, the Marxist now posing as a Fascist, don't care where he was born.

GET IT?

They do care if they don't have a job, if their taxes go up, if they have a medical condition that Obummer, the Marxist now posing as a Fascist, will not allow their doctor to treat.

To win an election, you have to think about what the voters think are important.

If you took a poll asking the voters to rate the importance of Obummer's, the Marxist now posing as a Fascist, birth place and asked them to rate it in relation to jobs, the economy, national security, personal safety, their children's education, global warming, carbon tax, the federal reserve, gun rights, 1st Amendment....a list of 100, I will bet o’s birth place would be at the bottom of the list.

So putting it out there for the public to get all riled up about is chasing a rainbow.

The public does not give a damn.

Much more productive to elect a congress that will get serious about the things that voters are concerned about.

46 posted on 01/05/2010 8:31:04 PM PST by old curmudgeon
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To: LucyT

A little bird told me about Beck,,,

It said : “cluck~cluck~cluck”...;0)


47 posted on 01/05/2010 8:32:49 PM PST by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: STARWISE
WOW ! He said a mouthful ...

He certainly did! Good to see someone state the facts with such passion. Over due if you ask me!

48 posted on 01/05/2010 8:43:36 PM PST by Just A Nobody ( (Better Dead than RED! NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA))
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To: Just A Nobody

MORE than overdo ... !

Happy New Year, Justa .. ;)


49 posted on 01/05/2010 8:44:57 PM PST by STARWISE (.They (LIBS-STILL) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war- Richard Miniter)
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To: LorenC

Exactly. An attorney who cites EVIDENCE THAT CANNOT BE PRODUCED is only in this for the publicity. He would have much better options chasing ambulances.


50 posted on 01/05/2010 8:45:44 PM PST by newheart ("It will keep the government out of your health care decisions..." Barack Obama, July 23, 2009)
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