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Attorney Stephen Pidgeon to Glenn Beck
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Posted on 01/05/2010 7:16:47 PM PST by Man50D

Attorney Stephen Pidgeon is one of the lawyers involved in the B.C. issue. He is currently working with Leo Donofrio on the Chrysler lawsuit. Below is his letter to Glenn Beck. Great job, Stephen! S.B.

Dear Mr. Beck:

You are ill-informed on the “birther” issue. Barack Obama, by his own admission, was a British subject at birth. He has never denied having a Kenyan father, who himself was a British subject as a Kenyan native. This is easly established under the British Nationality Act of 1948. He is therefore disqualified to run for the office of the President, because the office is not available to subjects of other governments. The issue is very simple, and very obvious. Obama himself admitted that he wasn’t a natural born citizen when he debated Alan Keyes in 2004.

Let’s see you deal with this one. There is nothing “nutty” about it, and it doesn’t depend on whether his maternal grandmother tried to cover up a foreign birth in Hawaii by placing newspaper notices. It is as plain as your face. BHO is a foreign national first, and an American secondarily, if at all. That is why he thinks there are 57 states; why he doesn’t understand the constitution; why he wants to give us Britain’s health care system (it’s all in the teeth, don’t you know); why he thinks Interpol should have greater authority in the US than US law enforcement; etc. He is a British subject and has no business holding the office of POTUS.

If you think you can overlook this constitutional crisis as not part of the Rubicon, you are mistaken. One constitutional overlook breeds another and the next thing you know, the financial industry is nationalized, the auto industry is nationalized, the health care industry is about to be nationalized, and the energy industry will soon be nationalized.

Ultimately, it is all going to be okay, because socialism only lasts until other people’s money (OPM) runs out, and binge spender BHO has spent all the money we have and all the money we will ever have for the next several generations. He spent all of this before he got his socialist healthcare on the table. He and his wife have partied like Eddie Murphy in The Distinguished Gentleman (1992) since taking office, while he has busied himself with overthrowing the constitutional republic, establishing a new Islamic empire worldwide, disarming and crippling America, and unilaterally dividing Israel and Jerusalem. The only budget constraint for Obama is ink and paper (and he is working his way around that) and his foreign policy advisor appears to be “mirror, mirror on the wall”. He has bankrupted the nation, which the sleeping Oprah watchers are now discovering for the very first time. The reality of the bankruptcy will hit home with gusto in 2010. Not only will we suffer with 30% unemployment, a complete collapse of real estate, and a complete collapse of the dollar, we will also suffer the slings and arrows of dramatic military defeats, as we let this foreigner steer the ship of state. Most Americans have no idea how bad it is going to get.

As for Obama: he will be one of history’s most reviled figures – on a par with Nero – as a fool who couldn’t even understand that when he denigrated the United States, he was destroying the very state upon which his safety and his legacy depended. He will suffer dramatic defeat in Afghanistan and Iraq – it will not be like Viet Nam, and his name will be tarred with it. It will be more like the disastrous defeat of Xerxes at Salamis, or the Ottomans at Sisek, or the Moors at Tours; a game changing defeat that will forever cement the destiny of the republic known as the United States of America. Obama will join the other names in history who suffered cataclysmic losses in the lands of Magog.

His legacy? A communist, collectivist fool, brainwashed by red diaper doper babies haunting the halls of ivy league academia whose agenda was to bring back the failed Bolshevik revolution worldwide, who brought his fully bloomed ignorance to power illegally in the US because of the needs of his narcissistic ego, whose illegitimacy caused the US to go bankrupt and to suffer its worst military setbacks in the history of the nation in just a few short months. History will marvel at the foolishness of Americans, and historians will wonder how we as a people could have allowed this to happen. Then, of course, historians will ultimately conclude that the demise of the greatest nation the world had ever known happened because the watchdogs whose duty it was to warn Americans of such possibilities – the so-called news media – conspired with foreign powers and global financial criminals to destroy America from the inside, as a result of their cowardice, malevolence and silence.

Contributing member: Glenn Beck, who simply could not bring himself to utter the truth about Obama – that he is a usurper, holding the presidency illegally and unconstitutionally, because he is without a legal birthright. Let us never forget who shirked their duty to tell the truth in these last hours, and let us not allow history to forget.

STEPHEN PIDGEON


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: beck; birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; donofrio; gb; glennbeck; leodonofrio; naturalborncitizen; obama; obamafail; stevenpidgeon
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To: Drew68

Whatever


101 posted on 01/06/2010 6:18:32 AM PST by American Constitutionalist (There is no civility in the way the Communist/Marxist want to destroy the USA)
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To: American Constitutionalist
...a list of 100, I will bet o’s birth place would be at the bottom of the list.
So putting it out there for the public to get all riled up about is chasing a rainbow.
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They will care when they realize that this is the silver bullet that will get rid of Obama and his fascist minions almost immediately.

And...They will care that Rush, Beck, Coulter, Hannity, Levine and the rest withheld this information from them. The **very** essence of which could have prevented a lot of their misery.

Those who belittle the intelligence of the American people are **NOT** conservative. ( Read my tag line.)

102 posted on 01/06/2010 6:22:48 AM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid!)
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To: American Constitutionalist

Of course the true conservatives want to be governed by those who are sincere believers in the Constitution.

But they are not going to get that by ranting about Obummer, the Marxist now posing as a Fascist, birth place.

A far more likely way to get good government is to make the voters see that they are getting screwed in their own personal affairs.

As the voters demand new representation, the conservatives should use that opportunity to see that truly conservative people are selected as their candidates.

No more McCains, Romneys, Bushes, etc.

We need the likes of Sarah Palin, Michelle Bauchman, Demint, Inhofe, etc.


103 posted on 01/06/2010 6:32:25 AM PST by old curmudgeon
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To: MamaDearest
" Why not? Glen himself always says, question vigorously. We are, and he won't! "

Kinda hypocritical for him to say that, but, won't question Obama's eligibility ? right ? ....
Each day that the " Conservative " talk show host don't take the time to research, talk about, and question Obama's eligibility, is each day they lose their credibility and integrity.
At least Rusty Humphries and Billy Cunningham are doing the job that Rush, Glenn, Mark and other's won't do.
104 posted on 01/06/2010 6:34:53 AM PST by American Constitutionalist (There is no civility in the way the Communist/Marxist want to destroy the USA)
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To: television is just wrong
Can being ineligible to hold office of the President be an IMPEACHABLE OFFENSE?
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Only a valid president can be impeached. Usurpers, frauds, traitors, and impostors are arrested.

Only a natural born citizen can be a president. If he isn't natural born then he can't be president. Obama ( if he isn't natural born) is instead a usurper and criminal fraud. He would be no different than the Germans who dressed in U.S. military uniforms and infiltrated the allied lines during WWII’s Battle of the Bulge.

A person who knowingly takes occupies the White House without being natural born is dressing ( fraudulently) in the “uniform” of Commander in Chief of our U.S. military forces.

What has Fox News and Clear Channel done to educate their viewers and listeners about this issue. NOTHING!

105 posted on 01/06/2010 6:37:43 AM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid!)
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To: Man50D
Hell of a letter.
106 posted on 01/06/2010 6:40:15 AM PST by Manic_Episode (Some mornings, it's just not worth chewing through the leather straps...)
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To: Man50D
The first two paragraphs are some of the most accurate, explicit, and clear-cut statements i have seen written on this subject.

The "Birth Certificate Issue" specifically is more like a "show and tell" session that would be easier for the general public to digest.

107 posted on 01/06/2010 6:50:36 AM PST by urtax$@work (The best kind of memorial is a Burning Memorial.........)
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To: wintertime
The “ PEOPLE “ will care and cry when the full force of tyranny is in full effect and we will hear lamentations of what was.... perhaps this is God's way to correct us, chastisement.
108 posted on 01/06/2010 6:50:58 AM PST by American Constitutionalist (There is no civility in the way the Communist/Marxist want to destroy the USA)
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To: Cicero

a well written and balanced post!


109 posted on 01/06/2010 6:54:56 AM PST by Guenevere (....)
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To: pissant
Totally uncalled for! and low....disappointed in you, pissant!
110 posted on 01/06/2010 6:57:37 AM PST by Guenevere (....)
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To: philman_36; newheart
“No replies.”
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That what I get when I click the “View Replies”. ( Crickets chirping!)

It is self-evident that if Barack Obama senior is his father that Obama can NOT be a natural born citizen.

111 posted on 01/06/2010 7:00:10 AM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid!)
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To: JenB987
Attacking those who are on our side will only deplete our numbers.

Are they on the side of those who demand the Constitution be obeyed if they don't hold one who usurps the Constitution by illegally holding the highest office in the land accountable?
112 posted on 01/06/2010 7:15:15 AM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! www.FairTaxNation.com)
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To: Man50D
"Obama himself admitted that he wasn’t a natural born citizen when he debated Alan Keyes in 2004."

I saw them debate. I recall nothing of the kind, where's the transcript and youtube? ???????????????????????????????????????????????

113 posted on 01/06/2010 7:16:19 AM PST by cookcounty (Let us not speak of the honor of men. Rather, let us bind them with the Constitution. --Jefferson)
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To: Man50D

I was reading the thread last night, I watched the old anti-birthers come on, there must be something going on with them showing back up.

I couldn’t post, but enjoyed reading it.

This letter is write on and let’s not stop giving Beck and ALL of the other so called conservative tlaking boobleheads hell until they grow a set of bablls and bring this issue to the fore front.


114 posted on 01/06/2010 7:16:38 AM PST by stockpirate (Dec. 24, 2009, the day liberty in America died to applause in the US Senate. Republicans helped)
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To: JustaDumbBlonde

“Guess those demands that Beck cover the eligibility issue didn’t work out so well.”

No actually you are wrong, he did cover it and has created a firestorm. This will only grow from here.


115 posted on 01/06/2010 7:19:25 AM PST by stockpirate (Dec. 24, 2009, the day liberty in America died to applause in the US Senate. Republicans helped)
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To: JustaDumbBlonde

“No, it makes the birthers look like kooks, but that would be kinda redundant.”

Polls show that over 40% of conservatives think there is an issue here that needs to be addressed.

Your comment shows you to be a liberal Obama troll.


116 posted on 01/06/2010 7:21:58 AM PST by stockpirate (Dec. 24, 2009, the day liberty in America died to applause in the US Senate. Republicans helped)
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To: Electric Graffiti; JustaDumbBlonde

Her screen anme fits here well, no doubt a liberal.


117 posted on 01/06/2010 7:24:45 AM PST by stockpirate (Dec. 24, 2009, the day liberty in America died to applause in the US Senate. Republicans helped)
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To: Man50D
Are they on the side of those who demand the Constitution be obeyed if they don't hold one who usurps the Constitution by illegally holding the highest office in the land accountable?

Right now, no one has the smoking gun. Meaning, no one has definitive proof. It's all circumstanstial. Would you put your life and career on the line for something that you can't prove?

That being said, they are on the side of the Constitution until there's something to report. After the proof has been unveiled, what they decide to do with it will decide whether or not they are on the side of the Constituion.
118 posted on 01/06/2010 7:28:20 AM PST by JenB987
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To: Electric Graffiti

“This whole birther mess makes us conservatives look like kooks”

To whom does this make us look like kooks? The Left? They already think we are kooks, even without the ‘birther issue’; so buckup!


119 posted on 01/06/2010 7:29:20 AM PST by mdmathis6
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To: newheart

YOu don’t need a link. Obama’s dad was not a US citizen, it takes two US citizen’s to confer US natural born status.


120 posted on 01/06/2010 7:31:33 AM PST by stockpirate (Dec. 24, 2009, the day liberty in America died to applause in the US Senate. Republicans helped)
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To: JenB987
Right now, no one has the smoking gun. Meaning, no one has definitive proof. It's all circumstanstial

I don't know how you define smoking gun but the birth certificate below couldn't be more damning.


121 posted on 01/06/2010 7:32:31 AM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! www.FairTaxNation.com)
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To: Man50D

Well, then...you found the authentic birth certificate that no one else has been able to dig up. The debate is over, right? So we don’t need anymore cries of “Show me the birth certificate!”

Why do you need Beck or Rush to report on it? Do it yourself.


122 posted on 01/06/2010 7:39:09 AM PST by JenB987
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To: JenB987
Well, then...you found the authentic birth certificate that no one else has been able to dig up. The debate is over, right? So we don’t need anymore cries of “Show me the birth certificate!”

I'm glad to see finally you accept the fact the issue birth issue is legitimate. The Kenyan birth certificate is common knowledge. It has been circulated for some time. Beck could easily obtain possession. BO is still required to either prove he is eligible per the natural born requirement in Article 2 Section 1 or leave office.
123 posted on 01/06/2010 7:47:19 AM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! www.FairTaxNation.com)
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To: JenB987
Perhaps you should tell U.S. Congressman Nathan Deal (GA-R) what a kook he is for challenging BO's eligibility.

FIRST TIME IN U.S. HISTORY THAT A SITTING PRESIDENT’S ELIGIBILITY QUESTIONED BY MEMBER OF CONGRES

You need to face facts. This issue is not only not going away but is growing.
124 posted on 01/06/2010 7:53:38 AM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! www.FairTaxNation.com)
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To: Man50D
That document carries a heading of "Mombasa, British Protectorate of Kenya" A couple of slight problems with that: Mombasa was a part of Zanzibar until December 12, 1963, when it became part of the newly independent Kenya. Kenya gained its independence from the United Kingdom in December of 1963, but was known as the Dominion of Kenya until December of 1964.

I think there is a significant legal case to be made regarding Obama's father's British citizenship and his mother's attained age and length of residence in Hawaii at the time of his birth, but this purported document doesn't accomplish it.

125 posted on 01/06/2010 7:57:11 AM PST by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: Man50D
I'm glad to see finally you accept the fact the issue birth issue is legitimate.

I always thought it was legitimate. I had already said that...twice.

The Kenyan birth certificate is common knowledge. It has been circulated for some time. Beck could easily obtain possession.

So then why are we still having this discussion? And why are we pinpointing Beck? Coulter called birthers kooks and Rush refuses to discuss the issue. The fact that people are directing their anger strictly at Glenn smells funny.

BO is still required to either prove he is eligible per the natural born requirement in Article 2 Section 1 or leave office.

Then petition the DNC, the RNC, the government...contact the people that control Obama staying in power. Not entertainment talk show hosts.
126 posted on 01/06/2010 7:57:29 AM PST by JenB987
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To: JenB987
So then why are we still having this discussion? And why are we pinpointing Beck?

Then petition the DNC, the RNC, the government...contact the people that control Obama staying in power. Not entertainment talk show hosts.


You pressure everyone who refuses to uphold the Constitution. Conservatives marched on media outlets last year concerning the latter's silence on the growing Tea party rallies. This Constitutional issue is more significant. The same tactic should be brought to bare on the media for remaining silent on a Constitutional issue that is the single most important issue of our time.
127 posted on 01/06/2010 8:08:57 AM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! www.FairTaxNation.com)
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To: Cicero
Unfortunately, Beck was talking about something else on his show, but this plan ensured that no one else could get through on the phone. It threatened to wreck his talk show. I happen to agree that Beck and Rush should be discussing this issue, but that ain’t the way to get them to do it.

Any suggestions on how to get Rush, Beck, and the other yappers to report the facts on Obama's eligibility?

128 posted on 01/06/2010 8:15:46 AM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid!)
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To: stockpirate

You know, that “if you’re not a birther you must be a liberal troll” line has really been worn out. Get back to us when you get some new material. LOL!


129 posted on 01/06/2010 8:16:03 AM PST by JustaDumbBlonde
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To: JustaDumbBlonde

Trool works for me and it says everything to conservatives on this site. It exposes you for who you really are.

A liberal troll! And we also know who most of your fellow trolls are. Scum every one of you.


130 posted on 01/06/2010 8:18:51 AM PST by stockpirate (Dec. 24, 2009, the day liberty in America died to applause in the US Senate. Republicans helped)
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To: JustaDumbBlonde

BTW - Sarah Palin is a birther.


131 posted on 01/06/2010 8:27:40 AM PST by stockpirate (Dec. 24, 2009, the day liberty in America died to applause in the US Senate. Republicans helped)
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To: STARWISE; Brytani; LucyT; BP2; katiekins1; All
-----Original Message-----

From: Glenn Beck

Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 19:14:59

To: XXXXXXXXX- Everyone on his mailing list!

Subject: Can you pass the history quiz most Americans fail?

Yes Glen, I can. Can you pass a quiz most Americans comprehend? Article II, Section I, Clause 4 of the United States Constitution? It is plausible to say you don't.

It is obvious to me and millions of Americans, you are either ignorant of the facts, or blatantly being intellectually dishonest to your audience.

Personally, I am offended by your condescending and arrogant, flag waving misrepresentations of the Natural Born Citizen clause in the US Constitution!

I strongly suggest you read it! Until then, kiss my made in America Ass!


132 posted on 01/06/2010 8:32:52 AM PST by seekthetruth (MY PRAYER EVERY DAY OF 2010---- PSALM 109:8)
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To: television is just wrong

And continue to hold your breath while Nancy Pelosi and the dims in the House bring articles of impeachment.....


133 posted on 01/06/2010 8:41:34 AM PST by the long march
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To: roving
I happen to be listening to a radio show with Keyes as a guest. He was asked about Obama admitting He wast a natural born citizen and Keyes HIMSELF said he doesn’t remember that happening. He wished it did but he isn’t going to make things up

I read the transcripts of two of their debates and that isn’t in there anywhere.

It's funny to watch people cling to this as true, rather than simply admit that it never happened.

When the rumor was originally circulated back in November 2008, the claim was that it had taken place during a regular debate, and that video existed of it. Just a few months back, in his informercial, Gary Kreep claimed that there was tape of this.

Of course, eventually people watched the footage and read the transcripts, and saw that it wasn't there. Keyes' own people said it didn't happen. So did the rumor die for lack of evidence?

No, the rumor just changed. Instead of taking place during the debate and being broadcast, some people started claiming that it was edited out of the broadcast. (Considering that political debates are often live, and never edited for content, that's odd.)

But of course, that created problems too. Because the transcript shouldn't be edited, and it's not in any transcript. So then some people started claiming that it didn't happen during the debate at all, but offstage sometime after the debate. Which, of course, runs directly counter to the folks who insist they saw it on TV.

So now you have some people claiming they saw it broadcasted, some people claiming it was edited, and some people claiming it happened out of sight. And the only evidence any of them have is their own memories; and given that people also claim to have witnessed Obama say he wanted to change the National Anthem to a Coke jingle (which originated in a satire column), that's some awfully weak evidence.

But they refuse to simply concede that it never took place. So Kreep says it on TV, and Pidgeon puts it in his press release, and they both look like fools.

134 posted on 01/06/2010 8:50:03 AM PST by LorenC
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To: wintertime

I’m not sure why they aren’t pushing this issue. One possible explanation is that Obama has threatened to shut them down, or to shut down the companies that broadcast them, so Fox and Rush’s operator (is it still ClearChannel?) have warned them against it.

Rush did joke about it for a while—What do God and Obama have in common? No birth certificates.

Rush sometimes has held back because he doesn’t want to undermine the Republicans. He tries to persuade them to make sense, but he avoids pushing them too hard. Possibly the Republican leadership has put out a mandate not to discuss this. Why? I don’t know. But they are the stupid party. And maybe Obama has warned them—instead of less pork, they will get NO pork unless they avoid this issue.

In any case, I think the thing is to persuade Beck and Rush that their listeners really want them to raise this issue. But this should be done in a way that doesn’t threaten to wreck their shows. Organized phone calls are anathema to talk show hosts, because they depend on having the sort of calls they want for a particular show get through.

Some people argue that there are other issues that should be concentrated on first, such as healthcare. I think that’s a false idea. The only way to beat healthcare is to tank Obama’s numbers so far that his supporters give up on it. And they are willing to take a big loss on it to get it through, so we need to ensure an even bigger loss. Two of the ways to weaken are Obama are to make fun of him and his arrogant habits and to caste doubt on his legitimacy. Do people really want a Kenyan Muslim Communist running our country? Romantic background, yes, they like that, but not some kind of corrupt illegal alien who lies about his background.


135 posted on 01/06/2010 9:00:51 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: LorenC
It's funny to watch people cling to this as true, rather than simply admit that it never happened.

Are you referring to this admission on his website that he was born a citizen of Kenya:

“When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children. Since Sen. Obama has neither renounced his U.S. citizenship nor sworn an oath of allegiance to Kenya, his Kenyan citizenship automatically expired on Aug. 4, 1982.”

[www.barackobama.com/fightthesmears/articles/5/birthcertificate]

136 posted on 01/06/2010 9:11:13 AM PST by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: Uncle Chip
Are you referring to this admission on his website that he was born a citizen of Kenya:

No, I'm referring to the apocryphal accounts of what was supposedly said during a Keyes/Obama debate in 2004. That's what roving's post (which I quoted and was responding to) was about.

137 posted on 01/06/2010 9:19:31 AM PST by LorenC
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To: LorenC
No, I'm referring to the apocryphal accounts of what was supposedly said during a Keyes/Obama debate in 2004. That's what roving's post (which I quoted and was responding to) was about.

Oh, sorry, I thought you were referring to the below actual account of what was definitely written by Obama's own website admitting the same thing -- that he was born a Kenyan national:

“When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children. Since Sen. Obama has neither renounced his U.S. citizenship nor sworn an oath of allegiance to Kenya, his Kenyan citizenship automatically expired on Aug. 4, 1982.”

[www.barackobama.com/fightthesmears/articles/5/birthcertificate]

138 posted on 01/06/2010 9:41:43 AM PST by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: stockpirate
LOL! I said new material, and you repeat the same ole same ole. Reading comprehension wants to be your friend. Thanks for adding a giggle to my morning. Enjoy your day.
139 posted on 01/06/2010 9:42:28 AM PST by JustaDumbBlonde
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To: LucyT
Excellent!!

Thank you for the ping LucyT

140 posted on 01/06/2010 10:03:52 AM PST by Las Vegas Ron ("Because without America, there is no free world" - Canada Free Press - MSM where are you?)
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To: Man50D; seekthetruth

I saw this for the first time on the pop up from the California thread telling me what the latest post is over there posted by SeekTheTruth, and I thank SeekTheTruth for posting this.

Disclaimer: I don’t listen to Glen Beck, so I haven’t any comment on him, or his program, nor have I a bone, or not to pick with him. It’s my understanding he’s a good Conservative, and I believe that which FReepers tell me, fool that I am.

I say GOD Bless Mr. Stephen Pidgeon for stating that which I perceive as precisely the truth. Excellent Post.


141 posted on 01/06/2010 10:14:53 AM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists...Call 'em What you Will, They ALL have Fairies Living In Their Trees.)
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To: STARWISE

Do serious lawyers with serious cases post public letters about their cases?
Mark Levin never publishes open letters about pending litigation his Landmark Legal Foundation pursues, and he gives hell to Libs.
Just sayin’.......


142 posted on 01/06/2010 10:15:22 AM PST by turnrightnow (I'm tired of liberal women defining who women should be.)
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To: newheart

that video was posted online, what I did not see was someone telling the vieweers to watch a certain portion of it where he says he is foreign born


143 posted on 01/06/2010 10:24:37 AM PST by RaceBannon (OBAMA'S HEALTH CARE IS SHOVEL READY...FOR SENIORS!!:: NObama. Not my president.)
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To: JustaDumbBlonde
“You know, that “if you’re not a birther you must be a liberal troll” line has really been worn out. Get back to us when you get some new material. LOL!”

He's discovered the word scum. Perhaps he thinks it's new. Such a pleasant fellow.

144 posted on 01/06/2010 10:33:54 AM PST by tired_old_conservative
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To: RaceBannon

That’s not true. One more urban myth in this whole thing.


145 posted on 01/06/2010 10:35:04 AM PST by tired_old_conservative
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To: STARWISE

Very good letter. I hope he really did send this to Glen, and further - that Glen actually reads it.

But each in the war must pick his/her battles. Glen has chosen to step around the whole birther issue and fight other issues. Unfortunately, those who continue to push the whole citizenship/eligibility battle - though possibly correct constitutionally and morally, have been equated with nuts. So for some, distancing oneself from that image (flawed though it may be) gives more audience for the other battles going on.

And as has been said - regardless of the TRUTH in the Obama birth situation - it will not be a deciding factor, because the SCOTUS doesn’t have the balls to even HEAR a case on it. But even if they did - they wouldn’t dare unseat a president unless he was so utterly hated by 90% of the population that hey had no choice in the matter.

For that matter - CAN the SCOTUS unseat a president? The Constitution doesn’t really address someone getting elected who isn’t eligible in the first place. I guess our founding fathers didn’t expect the American people to be stupid enough to elect someone without at least SOME questions being answered...


146 posted on 01/06/2010 10:41:31 AM PST by TheBattman (They exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature...)
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To: tired_old_conservative
"He's discovered the word scum. Perhaps he thinks it's new. Such a pleasant fellow."

Do you think they believe that they will attract folks to join their ranks with all of the venom and vitriol that they spew? My guess is that they are so obsessed that they simply don't care.

147 posted on 01/06/2010 10:43:02 AM PST by JustaDumbBlonde
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To: FreeperFlirt
Seeing that an AP reporter is too professional to submit a story which was not based on confirmed sources

Somehow I find that rather amusing. Although I would put the likely professionalism of an AP reporter several levels higher than anything from Alex Jones.

148 posted on 01/06/2010 10:46:54 AM PST by newheart ("It will keep the government out of your health care decisions..." Barack Obama, July 23, 2009)
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To: thecraw; Uncle Chip
Since Sen. Obama has neither renounced his U.S. citizenship nor sworn an oath of allegiance to Kenya, his Kenyan citizenship automatically expired on Aug. 4,1982.”

My reading of that sentence would lead me to think that as of August 4, 1982, Obama would no longer have dual citizenship and would only be, by his birth in Honolulu, a U.S. citizen.

149 posted on 01/06/2010 10:51:16 AM PST by newheart ("It will keep the government out of your health care decisions..." Barack Obama, July 23, 2009)
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To: Red Steel
Evidence is sitting at the Hawaiian Department of Health in the form of a typed birth certificate as well as other possible related documents that Obama refuses to show to any controlling authority for public view.

ANd it would be very helpful to see that, but as long as the Obama administration can run people around in circles and claim they are kooks, they will never give permission.

150 posted on 01/06/2010 10:53:35 AM PST by newheart ("It will keep the government out of your health care decisions..." Barack Obama, July 23, 2009)
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