Skip to comments.How to Recognize and Fight a Terrorist on a Plane(Informative & CAN save your Life)
Posted on 01/05/2010 11:43:34 PM PST by JustPiper
The attempted bombing of Delta/Northwest 253 on Christmas Day was not the first from the Islamic terrorists nor will it be the last. Since I am a pilot, I have had people ask what can a passenger do onboard an airplane to help thwart a terrorist attack. Having personal experience with a few events myself, as well as reading articles and hearing stories from other crew members, I can give you some information which might assist you in dealing with a suspicious passenger or situation.
The first thing to realize is that there are a few different scenarios which the terrorists could be using on your particular flight. (Also realize that it could happen on any flight, not just one originating from a non U.S. location.) Options include ...
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My son is on a flight to the UK (as I type) and I cannot sleep! I am tracking his flight and praying that he will arrive safely. He’s got about 2 and a half hours to go.
I fly 6,000 miles a week.
When I step onto the plane, I look around and select my “posse.”
I also look to see who might be a problem — so far the stupid terrorist women in head-rags haven’t been a problem.
But I am always at the ready.
Had the Christmas knickerbomber been on mt flight, he would not have survived 10 minutes after his initial ignition.
If I find myself on an airplane someone already put a gun to my head. LOL
>>My son is on a flight to the UK (as I type) and I cannot sleep! I am tracking his flight and praying that he will arrive safely. Hes got about 2 and a half hours to go.<<
There have been billions of miles flown over the last few years with no problem. He is safer (despite the idiocy of Homeland Security and its retarded stepson the TSA) than if he were driving.
I have nearly 2 million miles and can tell yo uit is still the safest mode of transportation.
It’s true, I know, but I cannot help but worry about him. My Dad who was career AF and on flying status always said it was the safest mode of transportation.
<< When I step onto the plane, I look around and select my posse.
You are a wise man, freedumb2003. Thanks also to Rockie’s for a great post - y’all are both dead on! Freepers might be interested in my post #47 about a month ago:
Note: QBFimi retired as a B-767 Captain for a major airline (with over 30 years of airline service). He was involved in security issues both before and after 9/11, and is currently a sworn officer.
>>Its true, I know, but I cannot help but worry about him. My Dad who was career AF and on flying status always said it was the safest mode of transportation.<<
It is — are you tracking with FlightTracker or similar? When my wife flies I check on her flight like ever 5 seconds or so. Because I have such great confidence and stuff...
I am sure he will be fine and your concern speaks highly of your character.
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I am a 2 million mile flier (ALL in North America) and have been doing it pretty much weekly since before 9/11.
I have lots of travel advice — threat and comfort — should anyone wish to avail themselves of it.
May the angels protect his flight :)
I already had my close call as I was on Egypt Air 990 exactly one week prior to that flight that the First Officer drove the 767 into the Atlantic.
If had pulled a different work assignment, there would have been a good chance that I would have been on the flight that crashed.
That freaked me out.
What an incredibly scary story! This was at DEN-ABQ, and only a few short months ago? May 2009?
Next time I’m on a flight, any flight, I’ll be more aware of who is flying with me.
That sounds just horrible. Like he wasn’t at all concerned about consequences.
You sound like a writer at Ghost Rider :)
You and me both friend! Still the nite owl I see lol
I’m afraid so. Some habits die real hard. I was actually an early riser at one time.
>>You sound like a writer at Ghost Rider :)<<
I have always wanted to be that cool.. (lol) :)
I’m using FlightAware. My daughter’s husband travels a great deal so she suggested that I use that.
LOL When a lil urban bro speak there.
>>Im using FlightAware.<<
One of my favorites — by now we have expended a few hours (I guess), so hopefully he is on initial approach.
The secret of flying or tracking flying is distraction :)
So I hope we helped! :)
Hey, yo uit be happpenin, boss dudde
Thank you, you have! I suggested that he, my son download mark Levin, and other conservative talk show hosts to make the time go by faster—or have a couple of drinks and then sleep!!! His flight was about nine hours so I am assuming he is sleeping! A couple more hours!
Thanks for your kindness!
TY Looker ~wink
You and me both. After reading that article..it seals the deal..lol
My first flight after 911 was traumatic, full blown panic attack
Well, if I helped a little then I have done my small part for my FRiends :)
Rest and sleep well and gently, amigo.
For me, it is time to gird the loins for the coming day.
My best to you, your son and all your kin.
Done & we are very busy at TM right now. think we’ve logged about 1000 posts just since NYE. Welcome aboard!
Reminds me how you can be in the right place
>>My first flight after 911 was traumatic, full blown panic attack<<
I was stuck in Ft. Worth for 3 weeks on 9/11 — my first flight was one of readiness: I was actually hoping someone would do something so I could pound him into the ground.
I stay vigilant to this day — if the pantybomber had been on my flight he would not have survived to make it to the airport.
The markings come from their heads hitting the floor five times a day when they "pray".
Could have been in the wrong place but got lucky.
I was on a platform in the Red Sea when 990 went down and was shaken by the crash as I am any plane crash and then I talked to my wife and she connected to dots for me and I really freaked out.
And there is just so much you can do to protect yourself.
GOOD FOR YOU! I dont fly often - but would if I could as I love to travel. I will be flying in next month or so & will mentally get ready as you have shared
Enjoyed your profile page.. and sorry about your baby.. she lived a long time. I lost my Cali about the same time frame (from my screenname.. Cali is the cat, not the state!).She was 19. 24 is almost a record I’ll bet
Thanks for your kind words — sorry about Cali as well (9 years is 1/2 to 1/3 of a human adult life and I know how significant a bond can be).
Have a great day!
This is how common sense defeats political correctness, and individualism defeats collectivism.
“One of the biggest advantages you have is the ability to profile.”
During the times that I have profiled since 911, I have remained respectful and courteous.
But the drive to fight terrorism always burns fiercely in my heart.
“Just like the Delta flight, the final layer of security, the crewmembers and passengers, are the ones who might have prevented an attack, NOTHING THE GOVERNMENT DID WAS SUCCESSFUL.”
erg - see #10
thanks for the info
Good to know. Thanks for the info.
umar without prayer bump.
umar with the beginnings of a prayer bump
Flipping through the channels last night I saw Ibrahim(?) Hooper (CAIR) on BOR's show. Bill was forcing the profiling issue and brought up the fact that the terrorists do not have blonde hair and blue eyes. Hooper said there are a lot of Swedish muslims. I wondered at the time if that was a *clue* that they are recruiting some who do NOT fit what we (regular people) are profiling to further complicate matters?
At any rate, I agree with the author...they DO fit the mold right now and we have to be prepared.
My husband and I flew to CA., from Boston, about 2 weeks after 911. One of the flight attendants on the trip was a friend of ours. We were in 1st class and she came up to my husband and said how relieved she was to see him so close to the cockpit door.
My husband flies constantly and also profiles before and after boarding. He has, on more than one occasion, asked to speak to the pilot about someone who looked suspicious. He’s also changed seats so he can sit on the aisle and followed a suspicious passenger to the lav.
Yeah. That would do it.
LOL. Same here.
I’ve only flown commercially twice (out to destination and return). I am probably the only person who could have their carryon get lost. (They made us get on little prop thing in Detroit and stowed all bags in the underbelly. The left my carryon one stop too soon.)
My dad had a 1946 Taylorcraft when I was a kid (well even before I was a kid and until he passed away). In fact, he was working on the plane when he died due to heart failure. They found him laying on the ground underneath the plane wing.
There was nothing like flying with my Dad. Nothing at all on this earth comes close.