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Medicare and the Mayo Clinic
Boston Globe ^ | 12/06/2009 | Jeff Jacoby

Posted on 01/06/2010 1:19:55 PM PST by Sneakyuser

PRESIDENT OBAMA is a great admirer of the Mayo Clinic. Time and again he has extolled it as an outstanding model of health care excellence and efficiency.

...So perhaps the president will give some thought to the clinic’s recent decision to stop accepting Medicare payments at its primary care facility in Glendale, Ariz. More than 3,000 patients will have to start paying cash if they wish to continue being seen by doctors at the clinic; those unable or unwilling to do so must look for new physicians. For now, Mayo is limiting the change in policy to its Glendale facility. But it may be just a matter of time before it drops Medicare at its other facilities in Arizona, Florida, and Minnesota as well.

Why would an institution renowned for providing health care of “the best quality and the lowest cost’’ choose to sever its ties with the government’s flagship single-payer insurance program? Because the relationship is one it can’t afford. Last year, the Mayo Clinic lost $840 million on its Medicare patients.

(Excerpt) Read more at boston.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: democrats; elections; healthcare; mayoclinic; medicare; obama; obamacare

1 posted on 01/06/2010 1:19:55 PM PST by Sneakyuser
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To: Sneakyuser

sounds like a free market choice, a decision that other hospitals most likely will follow....


2 posted on 01/06/2010 1:21:12 PM PST by rovenstinez (All)
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To: Sneakyuser
Yep. You're going to see a flood of Medicare providers leave the system once Obamacare becomes law. And angry seniors are going to be looking for Democrat scalps in November. Its stupid and politically self-immolating. But they'll diss seniors to get the government to take over one sixth of the economy.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find only things evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelogus

3 posted on 01/06/2010 1:23:38 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: rovenstinez
Does this mean I as a Medicare user will have to go on the “Public Option”?

Oh!! Wait a minute, I think I am already on a “Public Option”.

This is the future for us and it is happening even before the pass the blasted Healthcare Bill!!!!!!!!!

4 posted on 01/06/2010 1:27:23 PM PST by Wingrider (Liberal-A person so intelligent they become STUPID)
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To: rovenstinez
Does this mean I as a Medicare user will have to go on the “Public Option”?

Oh!! Wait a minute, I think I am already on a “Public Option”.

This is the future for us and it is happening even before they pass the blasted Healthcare Bill!!!!!!!!!

5 posted on 01/06/2010 1:28:07 PM PST by Wingrider (Liberal-A person so intelligent they become STUPID)
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To: Sneakyuser

When long lines develop because of reduced access to health care, we will see some “ gray market” medicine. A prospective cash paying patient could conceivably use an alias and state that they are not an American citizen or are uninsured. After all, medical providers will not be able to inquire as to a prospective patients’s citizen status in order to receive treatment. In addition, some patients may also want to use this approach because of privacy concerns. I wonder how much of this happens in Canada and the UK today?.
To counter this approach, Big Brother may need to use informants that pose as patients to break up these clinics. The health care bill calls for a tripling to the IRS budget and these agents will needs things to do.
Are we going to transform America from soft tyranny into an hard tyranny c/o the IRS armed agent and some boys from Interpol?


6 posted on 01/06/2010 1:42:11 PM PST by grumpygresh
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To: Wingrider

If all you have is Medicare, I have both good and bad news for you.

The bad news is that you are going to suffer. The good news is that your suffering won’t last long. Welcome to Obamacare.

BTW, just for fun I hit Obamacare on spell check. The definition starts with, “The Affordable Health Care for America Act (H.R. 3962,”. It’s crazy, but it’s really there!!!

I truly wish you the best in this crazy screwed up world we now live in.


7 posted on 01/06/2010 1:43:53 PM PST by Gator113 (Obama is America's First Failed Black Pres-dent.....)
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To: Sneakyuser

This article was very nicely written. It explains in simple terms what is happening, and with force.

Jacoby is to be commended.

I’m going to keep a copy of this around.


8 posted on 01/06/2010 1:46:39 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Good news. HC bill will not cover illegal aliens. Bad news. 20-35 million will be made citizens.)
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To: Sneakyuser

I would suspect hospitals in high senior demographic locations would be hit first such as Florida, Arizona.


9 posted on 01/06/2010 1:56:31 PM PST by franky8 (For the souls of the faithful departed.)
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To: Sneakyuser

I would suspect hospitals in high senior demographic locations would be hit first such as Florida, Arizona.


10 posted on 01/06/2010 1:57:22 PM PST by franky8 (For the souls of the faithful departed.)
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To: Sneakyuser
OK, I know this is anecdotal, but it is very close to home.

Mom and Dad are both on Coumaden, blood thinner, and need to have their blood tested every two weeks. Last week the lab called Mom and asked her if she and Dad had been through undue stress, because BOTH of them showed a real problem in their blood and had to drastically reduce their blood thinner, which acts like RAT POISON when taken in excess.

Meanwhile, Mom's best friend, who lives in the UK, has been put on the exact same medication.

The “National Health” only has provision for her to have her blood tested EVERY SIX MONTHS!

I kid you not.

11 posted on 01/06/2010 2:09:21 PM PST by left that other site (Your Mi'KMaq Paddy Whacky Bass Playing Biker Buddy)
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To: grumpygresh
Shades of “doctor shopping”. Even doctor shopping wasn't about the health of the patient, it was to prevent the free market from operating. This Health Care thing really isn't about the patients either, it is about creating government dependency.
12 posted on 01/06/2010 2:09:28 PM PST by Mark was here (The earth is bipolar. ---- "OBAMA: THE GREAT MISTAKE OF 2008")
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To: franky8

65 years and over 15.6% Pennsylvania (My state)

65 years old and over, percent, 17.0% Florida

13.1 New York

10.5 California

Florida followed by Pennsylvania hospitals will be next?


13 posted on 01/06/2010 2:17:05 PM PST by franky8 (For the souls of the faithful departed.)
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To: Gator113
When my husband had 2 strokes he was at the Mayo in AZ. We did not have Medicare, but even w/insurance we ended up with
a bill of $13k + $5k deductable, worth every penny. However,
my mother has been paying for years so she would be able to go there....and now they will not accept Medicare....
14 posted on 01/06/2010 2:29:15 PM PST by JHENN22499
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Best wishes for your mom and your husband. That is a shame about your mom.

I survived a stroke suffered during heart surgery and contracted MRSA at the same time. The MRSA resulted in 3 more surgeries to my chest. Instead of the zipper scar, I have a trench. I spent 2 entire near death months in the hospital and another 4 with at home nursing. The hospital bill alone was over a 1 million bucks. It took me over a year to recover, but I now have 95% of what I had before the stroke, I seldom need a wheelchair and I have retained my very opinionated and strong attitude. ;>)

I continue to make trips back to hospitals for various issues and I see at least one of my doctors about every 3 weeks.

I have another darn MRA scheduled for next week. They want to look at my brain this time for a tumor attached to the pituitary gland.... maybe my kids are right and it’s missing. ;>)

Had I not had bulletproof insurance from 4 separate sources, I would likely be dead or living in a tent.

I have already instructed my doctors that if I need anymore serious and lengthy medical attention, I want to be referred to the Mayo in AZ.

However.... other than God, there remains one primary reason that I have made it this far and that is my bride of over 38 years. Without her, I would have thrown in the towel. She was with me, 3 hours from our home, every single day throughout all of this hell, and still is.

The doctors helped, as well as the nurses and all the other medical folks, but it is our ladies that bring us back from the brink.

Good luck...


15 posted on 01/06/2010 3:00:17 PM PST by Gator113 (Obama is America's First Failed Black Pres-dent.....)
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To: grumpygresh
"A prospective cash paying patient could conceivably use an alias and state that they are not an American citizen or are uninsured. After all, medical providers will not be able to inquire as to a prospective patients’s citizen status in order to receive treatment."

Don't worry. Obama has you covered.


16 posted on 01/06/2010 5:13:02 PM PST by Soothesayer9
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To: franky8
I would suspect hospitals in high senior demographic locations would be hit first such as Florida, Arizona.

Very few hospitals with >50% Medicare will survive.

17 posted on 01/06/2010 5:37:03 PM PST by Jim Noble (Hu's the communist?)
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To: JHENN22499

Nursing homes will be next. Many private doctors are no longer accepting Medicare patients. Is O going to force them to with threats of prison?


18 posted on 01/06/2010 6:45:41 PM PST by GailA (obamacare paid for by cuts and taxes on the most vulnerable the disabled, seniors and Veterans)
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To: Gator113

Bless be to your wife. It is so difficult to see your husband on a feeding tube suffering. I was only 20 mins away and honesty I couldn’t take it. Most call it cold, I called it love.

He survived, but it changed us both. The nursing home was the worse. Then he woke up! He was normal. He was everything I remembered. We will never be the same, yet we
share all that happened. I thank the Mayo for that, and I thank God. We are 62 and 56. We have a long life to live with out the Mayo. Sadly, I’ll never get the benefits,nor will others that thought they would.
MRSA is terrible! My aunt went through it!!! Tell your wife I am truly jealous that she could sit with you and give the support. I feel really guilty I couldn’t do it.
Luckily, the doctors at the mayo said he didn’t know if I was there or not. But I knew.


19 posted on 01/06/2010 7:04:30 PM PST by JHENN22499
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To: JHENN22499

There is nothing for you to feel guilty about. You did what you could do.

This insurance scam is going to hurt so many lives that it makes me sick.

You take care....


20 posted on 01/06/2010 10:37:53 PM PST by Gator113 (Obama is America's First Failed Black Pres-dent.....)
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To: Jim Noble

Jim:

I will be 78 in a few months and when I go to the MD his office is loaded with grey hair people. I can see the problems I and they face. There is going to be a voting revolution starting this coming November.


21 posted on 01/07/2010 3:19:00 PM PST by franky8 (For the souls of the faithful departed.)
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