Skip to comments.Is the Secret Service Targeting the Birthers?
Posted on 01/07/2010 5:49:05 AM PST by Sophia777
Over the past year, Secret Service agents charged with protecting President Obama seem to have taken a keen interest in the Birther movement, the committed group of anti-Obama activists around the country who claim the president was born in Kenya, not Hawaii, and is thus ineligible to serve. The idea has been widely and repeatedly debunked (see FactCheck.org's thorough takedown here), but that hasn't stopped Birthers from doggedly making their case in American courtrooms, to US attorneys, and even to a rural county grand jury, in the hopes that a judge will rule in their favor and Obama might eventually be removed from office. Those efforts have failed spectacularly, but they seem to have succeeded in placing the Birthers on the radar of the Secret Service.
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Um, how can they fail spectacularly when cases are dismissed due to standing? Apparently Americans have no standing to challenge a President based on the Constitution. Who knew?
Oh? Did they prove a negative? Did they prove that Obama was not born outside the US?
All I can say is that until I see the long-form birth certificate I do not feel that they have proven a positive -- that Obama was born in Hawaii. I want to see the proof. Why is that so difficult?
Always throw out a false premise. The Birther movement just wants to see actual proof of Obama's birth and verify he meets the Constitutional requirements. Nothing has been debunked since it is a fact, Obama has not released his Birth Certificate.
well, at least they’re not tracking muslims identified in FRIENDLY NATION data bases as terrorists
I wonder, have birthers threatened suicide bombings and WMD attacks against the American people? And wouldn’t it be great if al Qaeda’s demands could be met by obama producing a $10 document!
Interestingly, they target the birthers and give terrorist a pass, who would have thought?
Also I have to add, Obama must be terrified of this issue,
One, he would show the BC and,
Two, he wouldn’t be sending out the CIA to intimidate people.
The thing that amazes me is the millions of dollars he has spent trying not to produce that $10 document.
Amazing, isn’t it? Don’t question ANYTHING about *the won*. Free speech??? Yeah, right.
‘Birth-certificaters’ is more accurate. That movement hasnt moved on yet?
News Flash : “Obama was sworn in almost a year ago”
When was this debunked? If they have, that is great news, now we can actually focus on just his ineptness. Has President Obama unsealed his records to the public? If so, where is the link and which Supreme Court Judge reviewed the originals?
When did that happen?
I’m sure he is. And with his ego, he’s probably angry that ANYONE would DARE....
Please don't wait too long.
I especially like this comment!
The left gets so hysterical! If we did HALF of what they put Bush through,or Palin, their heads would explode.
I try to be nice and think why he would fight this. If it was a conservative president; and there were any questions at all; I would adamant that president/candidate also produce what is needed.
Those millions he has spent, could have been used to feed hungry people.
I hope that we can vote a better Congress in, because this misuse of the Secret Service is a rank abuse of power.
In all fairness to Obama, I seem to recall that the cost of the certified document is actually $12. ;-)
You have it right. Factcheck and others coverup groups put up a strawman. Then they knock down the strawman.
The real fact is that most of us don’t know where Obama was born. The few who do know are either not talking ... or talking and we don’t know whether to believe them or not.
Obama’s birthplace is just one example of how little we really do know. Our culture is filled with assumed facts that are not facts at all. They are just assumptions.
( ping for later)
I think I hear a knock at the door.
I thought the Secret Service was charged only with handling physical threats to the President. Unless a “birther” made such a threat it seems the SS has no grounds for jurisdiction.
Funny, I’ve been getting “can’t locate the server” pop-ups as well. Especially when I’m on FR. Wonder what’s up?
Why would anyone go to such lengths to hide their birth certificate or their school records, especially a narcissist like obama? In the olden days, way back when Nixon was President, investigative reporters would have been curious. Today they go after people asking questions and speculating about possible answers.
1. If it is a constitution REQUIREMENT for a President to be born in the U.S., then how exactly does Zero get by without demonstrating his fulfills it. Holy crap, I have to take a copy of my son's birth certificate to prove his age for each football season, so I don't see why this should be any more unreasonable.
2. I'm no constitutional lawyer, but if this is a government “by the people”, then why don't the people have standing in a case asking that its President demonstrate that he has met the requirement to hold that position?
The job of the Secret Service is to protect the President from real threats, not to serve as a political police force for any existing administration.
It would seem that this agency merits a total re-organization, but not under the aegis of this FRAUDULENT President, who VERY WELL MAY HAVE BEEN BORN IN ANOTHER COUNTRY.
The Secret Service should report directly to the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, not any sitting President.
So what are you doing to get their attention? No other poster has been flagged in such a manner. And they’d say so if they had. They’d be yelling.
We should file lawsuits against the 365 electors who put Obama in office for “conspiracy to commit election fraud” One of them is bound to crack.
The government does whatever the heck it wants. Where have you been??
This is what the Democrats did under Bill Clinton.
Democrats always abuse power.
The actual cost to Obama would be ZERO. All he has to do is waive his supposed right to privacy, and authorize Hawaii to sell certified copies to anyone who wants one.
Exactly. Not everyone is hastily making the "He's a Kenyan!" accusation.
Factcheck.org is part and parcel of the Annenberg Foundation. Factcheck was also chosen by the Obama campaign as the arbitrar of whether Obamas birth certificate, which purportedly proves hes a citizen of the United States, is authentic.
Bill Ayers, a former member of the violent Vietnam War era Weather Underground terrorist group, was a key founder of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge.
In 1995 Obama was appointed Board Chairman and President of the Annenberg Chicago Challenge, a branch of the Annenberg Foundation.
Yeah...I believe everything Factcheck.org has to say. LOL!
Oba Ma Jones.
Mother Jones is just another member of the ObamaLove Cadre. I noticed the Kool Aid tanker trucks pulling up to the editorial offices the other day.
The public now knows more about the passport and travels of the crotch bomber than we do about our President.
That's my take on it too. If obama wants to claim "transparency" in his administration, well, start from the top. obama needs to quit spending millions (literally) to keep his birth certificate, school records, etc. private.
Personally, I give it a 20% chance obama's long-form BC would show his is an illegal President (ie. Kenyan born). I think it is more likely it would be part of a chain of evidence that would show obama is not his real legal name or some other extremely damaging information. Not sure if that would make him an illegal President - being sworn in under a name that was not his legal name, or what.
What I do know, 100% certain, is that where there is smoke, there's almost always fire. There is no valid reason for obama to waste millions hiding something unless it really needs to be hidden. There is something very, very wrong (legally) with obama's Presidency. People in and around his administration (who should know) have made contradictory claims "I've seen his long form BC" ... "obama has his long form BC" ... and " no long form BC exist, they were all destoried..." etc. Someone is lying about this, has to be. (probably more than one) Congress has shown a remarkable lack of interest in this. I'd say Congress is failing their due diligence responsibility.
Not really. It's up to the Executive branch to do such things. Our problem is that the Framers never envisioned court challeges to usurpers. (See Federalist #28 beginning at "If the representatives of the people betray their constituents ...")
So sue her, prosecute her .... something!
Ah-ha! Who says they are not working together.
Proving what? Did that change his place of birth or citizenship?
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