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Ron Paul: Tea parties won't rebuild GOP
Politco ^ | 1/7/10 | Andy Barr

Posted on 01/07/2010 2:01:47 PM PST by yongin

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To: Forward the Light Brigade
Well, the Democrats did one thing right. ..they changed the entire MO of their Party. They were determined and patient; and they knew they could not afford to grow a 'third Party'. In the end; a new Party morphed into 'something else' and when they emerged; these Lefties only added two letters to their name to signify their political change. (In truth, they changed; not only because they needed a larger euphemism to contain/disguise their radicalization; but as well, because they hated the 'rat' ending/lol)

So, whatever; we now have the 'Democratic' Party; and of course, it is anything 'but'. . .

I am not giving up on the Republican Party and change IS underway; but there can no question, if we do not prevail in 2010 and 2012; there will be no America left to 'prevail'. Personally, hope we can make it to 2010.

(That said; have a tempered optimism as we have a mafia of political power in charge and irrespective of our Constitution; we must imagine that they have NO intention of giving up their power per 2012. A kind of 'come hell or high water'; IMHO. Am hoping they do not bring on hell; but they well might.) Of course, and then again; the best thing would be political business as usual under our Constitution and may the 'best man win'/sigh. . .)

41 posted on 01/07/2010 5:33:59 PM PST by cricket
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To: yongin
Paul is a favorite among the tea party crowd

Say what!??

42 posted on 01/07/2010 5:37:25 PM PST by Randy Larsen ( BTW, If I offend you! Please let me know, I may want to offend you again!(FR #1690))
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To: Forward the Light Brigade
Republicans need to Reform and get back to the place they belong—back to Ronald Reagan! They can do this with ease. the Tea Parties are not GOP tools or cats paws.

. . .and yes, agree with you on both counts; but of course, not every candidate per every Congressional opening; nor every political candidate for President will be a perfect Ronald Reagan.

Want first and foremost, Ronald Reagan's strength of convictions and his love and belief in America; his determination to defend our Country and his integrity and his fearlessness when confronting our enemies. Both 'domestic' and foreign. . .

The smaller print will be a bit more difficult; but am willing to be patient if need be. The Democrat(ic) Party must be defeated by every measure.

43 posted on 01/07/2010 5:45:11 PM PST by cricket
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To: SoCalPol
Remember how the paulites invaded our Tea Party at the Harbor with their obnoxious handouts? We sure didn't want them there. Plus, they were trying to tell us where to stand and what to do.

Geez, they were horrid!

44 posted on 01/07/2010 5:46:50 PM PST by CAluvdubya (Palin 2012...YOU BETCHA!.)
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To: Randy Larsen

Does Ron Paul believe in ‘our Military’ - and our ‘using’(deploying) it? Ever?


45 posted on 01/07/2010 5:48:14 PM PST by cricket
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To: cricket

Ron Paul has never been a favorite of the “Tea Party” movement!


46 posted on 01/07/2010 5:59:19 PM PST by Randy Larsen ( BTW, If I offend you! Please let me know, I may want to offend you again!(FR #1690))
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To: CAluvdubya

I sure do remember the PaulBots with their 9/11 Truther
papers, their were like ants at the picnic


47 posted on 01/07/2010 6:01:07 PM PST by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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To: SoCalPol

their = they


48 posted on 01/07/2010 6:02:09 PM PST by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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To: OldDeckHand
Be suspicious of anyone who appears on the Rick Maddow show. Ron Paul, like Meghan McCain, is loved by the people on the left - so long as he's running down hawkish foreign policy, or the Patriot Act.

Hawkish foreign policy?

Our foreign trade policies favor other nations, we been at war with countries that have no standing armies, navy's or air-forces longer that both WWI and WWII...We are clearly not respected as the lone superpower that we once were...Not to mention America, (here at home) is being illegally invaded by foreigners, by the tens of millions, compromising our entire system, as our standard of living sinks, while our enemies economies, and standred of living increase..

What is this "Hawkish" foreign policy you speak of?

If you don't like "hawkish" to describe that, pick another word.

Inept, foolish, politically correct, incompetent, borderline treasonous....

49 posted on 01/07/2010 6:23:43 PM PST by dragnet2
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To: FrankR
I think the movement is being compromised by the left, and if we let that happen and cowtow to them, what we will end up with is ........ GOP II.

Hard to know what the Left's motives are re Tea Party; they will use it in whatever way they determine best serves the Demrats. They will use their own self-serving compass; nothing more.

Agree, that this movement is taking on the 'shape' of a new political Party and personally; hate to see that. This requires not just a 'revolution' but some 'evolutionary' patience as well. We do not have time to establish a successful third Party by 2010 or even 2012; and frankly, do not know why we need one. Personally, think it dangerously counterproductive.

The 'grassroots' are just that; and when empowered they can affect change. That change and empowerment that we are witnessing, can refashion/influence the GOP more readily than morphing into a new Party, finding it's place in the political strata. (And we should not be so naive as to think that once that Tea Party - should it find it's place' - will not be subject to the same tug of war - and 'will'; that they will not experience internal battles and degrees of disenfranchisement as ideas vie for power. No different that a new 'religion' establishing itself - in a grand, new unity - and in time, find itself ready to splinter again. . .and eventually, again. . .and again.

With that; I say, STAY in Repub Party and change from within; let ideas find their majority and so be served.

Not everyone can be a winner here - much less on every issue - but surely, common ground can be found that we can stand on, so that we may prevail against our immediate enemy - who currently fill our Congressional halls and our White House and who pose a mortal threat to our Constitution and therefore to every American.

Think the Dems would like nothing better, for the 'Tea (P)party' to become the 'fracturing' of the Republican Party; and no question, they will be glad to help; by whatever means possible.

50 posted on 01/07/2010 6:25:25 PM PST by cricket
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To: carolina71
...if the Tea Party and the Republicans don’t find a way to work together

It won't happen. The Tea Partiers don't want anything to do with Republicans. It's shaping into a 3rd party where the outcome will be as you stated.

51 posted on 01/07/2010 6:32:15 PM PST by La Enchiladita (The Light shines in the darkness.)
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To: Randy Larsen
Ron Paul has never been a favorite of the “Tea Party” movement!

Can appreciate that; and never imagined that many RP's were 'out there'. Albeit, some are no doubt; as many have been 'called' to tea parties!

Personally, think this movement has been incredible in it's focus and energy; and certainly has already influenced many in DC, to the 'better' by it's powerful messages.

As for Dr. Paul/Doctor No. . .no doubt, a nice person; and has many good ideas. . .more or less/sigh.

52 posted on 01/07/2010 6:45:10 PM PST by cricket
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To: John-Irish
Ron Paul: Tea parties won't rebuild GOP

Er, neither will Ron Paul.

53 posted on 01/07/2010 6:51:35 PM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: dragnet2
"Our foreign trade policies favor other nations, we been at war with countries that have no standing armies, navy's or air-forces longer that both WWI and WWII...We are clearly not respected as the lone superpower that we once were...Not to mention America, (here at home) is being illegally invaded by foreigners, by the tens of millions, compromising our entire system, as our standard of living sinks, while our enemies economies, and standred of living increase.."

I'm sorry, but how does your rant justify ending military aid to Israel and ceding large swaths of the middle-east and Hindu Kush to Al Queda and the Taliban, which is precisely what Paulians support.

I agree. What Ron Paul advocates is precisely - "Inept, foolish, politically correct, incompetent, borderline treasonous....

54 posted on 01/07/2010 7:00:13 PM PST by OldDeckHand (Flag waiving, church attending, gun toting militant heterosexual. Deal with it.)
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To: SoCalPol
"Ron Paul a favorite among the anti war Code Pinko crowd"

No one should be allowed to forget that it was a Paulian GOP delegate that gave his credentials to the Code Pinkers at the 2008 convention - the same CPers that demonstrated when Palin and McCain spoke. What kind of crazy kook would give their Convention pass to a Code Pink-0

55 posted on 01/07/2010 7:04:59 PM PST by OldDeckHand (Flag waiving, church attending, gun toting militant heterosexual. Deal with it.)
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To: OldDeckHand
Be suspicious of anyone who appears on the Rick Maddow show. Ron Paul, like Meghan McCain, is loved by the people on the left - so long as he's running down hawkish foreign policy, or the Patriot Act.

Hawkish foreign policy?

Our foreign trade policies favor other nations, we been at war with countries that have no standing armies, navy's or air-forces longer that both WWI and WWII...We are clearly not respected as the lone superpower that we once were...Not to mention America, (here at home) is being illegally invaded by foreigners, by the tens of millions, compromising our entire system, as our standard of living sinks, while our enemies economies, and standred of living increase..

What is this "Hawkish" foreign policy you speak of?

If you don't like "hawkish" to describe that, pick another word.

Inept, foolish, politically correct, incompetent, borderline treasonous..

I'm sorry, but how does your rant justify ending military aid to Israel and ceding large swaths of the middle-east to Al Queda

My "rant" is fact, was directed at your comment suggesting we somehow have a, "Hawkish foreign policy"..

Like our domestic polices, our foreign policies, for the most part, are neither conservative, hawkish, or in America's best interest.

56 posted on 01/07/2010 7:13:22 PM PST by dragnet2
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To: dragnet2
"Like our domestic polices, our foreign policies, for the most part, are neither conservative, hawkish, or in America's best interest."

Terrific, thanks for the insight. One last time, though, how does stopping military aid to Israel and pulling out of the middle-east help America's interest, precisely?

I typed slower this time to better help you understand my question.

57 posted on 01/07/2010 7:17:22 PM PST by OldDeckHand (Flag waiving, church attending, gun toting militant heterosexual. Deal with it.)
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To: CAluvdubya

Remember how the paulites invaded our Tea Party at the Harbor with their obnoxious handouts? We sure didn’t want them there. Plus, they were trying to tell us where to stand and what to do.
Geez, they were horrid! “


“Our Tea Party” ? Therein lies the problem. Apparently it’s by invitation only - ? This attitude will destroy any chances the Tea Party has of success.

If the Tea Party members don’t reach out they will win nothing, nada, zip, zero. You not only want to take out the Paulites you want to take out any conservative Republican who doesn’t agree with your personal stances. Whose left? I know — not enough to win !

I find it absolutely astounding that anyone would want to help put Obama back in office and that’s exactly what this mindset will do.

Think on it.


58 posted on 01/07/2010 7:20:41 PM PST by carolina71
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To: OldDeckHand

You are correct. Remember that at the time and forgotten by most.


59 posted on 01/07/2010 7:31:00 PM PST by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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To: dragnet2
"We must secure our borders now. A nation without secure borders is no nation at all. It makes no sense to fight terrorists abroad when our own front door is left unlocked."

- Ron Paul
60 posted on 01/07/2010 7:31:16 PM PST by Rodebrecht (Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.)
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