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CIA, Counterterrorism Execs Managed Bomb Crisis from Afar
CBS ^ | Thursday January 7, 2010 | Daniel Farber

Posted on 01/07/2010 8:03:37 PM PST by Bigtigermike

It could be said that the U.S. government can run by remote control. On the day that Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab attempted to blow up a Northwest airline flight headed for Detroit, several key government players were on holiday and didn't immediately return to their posts in Washington, D.C.

President Obama was on vacation in Hawaii, golfing and enjoying time with his family. He returned to the White House on Jan. 4.

A source told CBS News that Leon Panetta, director of the CIA, was on holiday in Monterey, Calif. when Abdulmutallab was apprehended, and didn't return to CIA headquarters in Langley, Va. until the weekend following Jan. 1.he CIA maintained that Panetta's absence from Langley was not a problem. "While we don't comment on the Director's whereabouts, wherever he is—and at every moment of every day—he has the ability to communicate instantly and securely with anyone he needs to be in touch with," a CIA spokesman said.

In addition, Stephen Kappes, CIA deputy director, reportedly didn't see the need to return to CIA headquarters from his vacation despite the major intelligence community failure. He returned to Washington, D.C. just after the Khost bombing on Dec. 30 that killed seven CIA officers.

And, the White House has been busy today putting its support behind National Counterterrorism Director Michael Leiter, who decided it would be acceptable to go on a six-day vacation with his 7-year-old son the day after Abdulmutallab's attempted bombing.

John Brennan, the president's chief counterterrorism adviser, said he authorized Leiter to take the vacation time after concluding that Leiter had a "full complement" of people and deputies to deal with the situation and that he "deserved" the vacation.

Denis McDonough, National Security Staff Chief of Staff, chimed in that Leiter's vacation "did not affect in any way his ability to remain engaged with all elements of the United States Government."


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 20091230; albalawi; bhochristmas; bhocia; cia; detroit; flight253; khost; khostbombing; nationalsecurityfail; nss; obama; panetta; terrorism; waronterror
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1 posted on 01/07/2010 8:03:39 PM PST by Bigtigermike
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To: Bigtigermike

What a collection of fools.

God help us all.


2 posted on 01/07/2010 8:08:47 PM PST by Yossarian
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To: Bigtigermike

Man, I wish I had a government gig...raises every year, virtually impossible to get fired, great health plan, terrific retirement...and apparently they close the shop for Christmas!


3 posted on 01/07/2010 8:09:35 PM PST by clintonh8r (Proud member of America's "cadre of prickly conservatives.")
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To: Bigtigermike
He probably left his work shoes at home.

'Smart' would be a good way to describe the way we've been prosecuting this way, as in Get Smart !
4 posted on 01/07/2010 8:10:54 PM PST by jmcenanly
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To: Bigtigermike

While the comments on the CBS site are few, they are not favorable to the One. The tide cannot turn fast enough.


5 posted on 01/07/2010 8:11:57 PM PST by fullchroma (Obama: GET OUT OF MY DOCTOR'S OFFICE!)
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To: Yossarian

A ship of fools....I mind you!


6 posted on 01/07/2010 8:12:32 PM PST by Bigtigermike (Loose lips sink ships, stay away RINO's)
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To: Bigtigermike
The apparatchiks are on a permanent vacation.

If the sheeple had any idea of what the Washingtonians were up to, there would be hell to pay.

Fortunately for the leftists, the propagandists in the press are providing cover.

Mussolini swing time

7 posted on 01/07/2010 8:12:56 PM PST by Rome2000 (OBAMA IS A COMMUNIST CRYPTO-MUSLIM)
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To: Bigtigermike; maggief; onyx; STARWISE

So who is going to ask the question?

Why was everyone avoiding DC that week?
I am not buying the fact that we narrowly escape another terrorist attack and NO ONE returned to DC?????

What are they not telling us?
Was DC a target?
Did we dodge a bigger bullet?


8 posted on 01/07/2010 8:15:14 PM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Bigtigermike

Not a problem because Obama & Co. are democrats. President Bush was critcized every time he went to his own home in Texas. That’s different.


9 posted on 01/07/2010 8:16:52 PM PST by jennyjenny
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To: Bigtigermike
I just posted this:

Eager young recruit, a father to be and man in charge among CIA dead ( Afghanistan bombing )

10 posted on 01/07/2010 8:17:02 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

I didn’t think of that like that!! You might be on to something!


11 posted on 01/07/2010 8:21:24 PM PST by Bigtigermike (Loose lips sink ships, stay away RINO's)
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To: NormsRevenge; Grampa Dave; SierraWasp; Marine_Uncle; BIGLOOK; onyx; SunkenCiv; blam; ...

This should count as the third strike on Obama!


12 posted on 01/07/2010 8:22:04 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Bigtigermike

And in California, the Bay Area Air Quality Management District, had over ten agents out in force on XMAS Day writting citations to homeowners for lighting their fireplaces on a no-burn day.


13 posted on 01/07/2010 8:23:33 PM PST by umgud (I couldn't understand why the ball kept getting bigger......... then it hit me.)
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To: All

CIA bomb in Afghanistan counts as one of the strikes.


14 posted on 01/07/2010 8:23:41 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights; maggief; SE Mom; STARWISE

It was Christmas Day and Christmas week.

All of obama’s deeply religious department heads were solemnly celebrating the birth of our Savior, either at home or in Church with their families or on ski slopes or in the warm Hawaiian surf.

How could we possibly expect these people to abandon their vacations to tend to our nation’s security in time of war when the punk-in-chief would 3 days later claim it was an “isolated failed attack by an extremist” and his homeland security chieftan, assured us that “all systems worked”?

Personally, I think punk-in-chief was all set to blame DOS (Hillary) and CIA (Panetta) today, but Bill Clinton interceded to warn him that he’d better not or all hell would break loose.


15 posted on 01/07/2010 8:26:21 PM PST by onyx
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To: Bigtigermike

Bigtigermike Am I going crazy? Was this thread once named
“ CIA Panetta Was Also on Vacation”?

It does some serious damage to my brain when the title is change when I am posting a comment...


16 posted on 01/07/2010 8:26:52 PM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

So who is going to ask the question?

Why was everyone avoiding DC that week?

I am not buying the fact that we narrowly escape another terrorist attack and NO ONE returned to DC?????

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Good questions. And why are Senators and Reps resigning en masse? They know DC is a target, and it’s only a matter of time before we get hit there again. The muzzies have to avenge the failure of Flight 73, the one that was taken down by passengers in Pennsylvania. They will take another shot at the Capitol and the WH, and soon.


17 posted on 01/07/2010 8:28:12 PM PST by Palladin (Obama as President? "Totally unacceptable.")
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

Yes it was...I’m sure a moderator changed it...


18 posted on 01/07/2010 8:28:36 PM PST by Bigtigermike (Loose lips sink ships, stay away RINO's)
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights
What are they not telling us? Was DC a target? Did we dodge a bigger bullet?

I think you give them too much credit for actually having a plan. The simpler, and more likely explanation can be drawn from simple observation of how these people operate. They're arrogant and clueless. They figured it would all be contained under the "isolated, failed incident" banner, and it wouldn't be a big deal. It was only when they were blindsided by the reaction (and I think they truly were)did they finally start trickling back in to DC. They really are that inept and clueless. They have tin ears and no innate grasp of how America sees things. The only thing they really know how to do is campaign and feel important.

Since none of them know what they're doing at their posts anyway, and are totally reliant on the career drones to just keep things going, there's a certain perverse logic to their rationale of finishing out the vacation.

19 posted on 01/07/2010 8:29:07 PM PST by Eroteme
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights
Why was everyone avoiding DC that week?

That's a very interesting question...

20 posted on 01/07/2010 8:30:12 PM PST by mplsconservative
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To: jmcenanly
" 99"
21 posted on 01/07/2010 8:31:27 PM PST by blam
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To: Bigtigermike

LOL! I thought someone was playing mind games with me!


22 posted on 01/07/2010 8:32:26 PM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Actually, that would be number 4.


23 posted on 01/07/2010 8:32:41 PM PST by onyx
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To: onyx
Personally, I think punk-in-chief was all set to blame DOS (Hillary) and CIA (Panetta) today, but Bill Clinton interceded to warn him that he’d better not or all hell would break loose

Not a half bad thought. Would explain why the address was pushed back several times, and the lack of any real substance or detail when we'd been prepped to be "shocked."

24 posted on 01/07/2010 8:32:45 PM PST by Eroteme
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Democrats don’t believe in Christ. Why would they bother to celebrate Christmas? They really should be at work since the season has no import to them.


25 posted on 01/07/2010 8:34:24 PM PST by WaterBoard
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To: Eroteme

Given that Bill Clinton had a meeting with him, that’s all I could reasonably come up with and Hillary has been deafeningly silent, as though she were trying go unnoticed. That pesky VISA DOS issued to the Nigerian.


26 posted on 01/07/2010 8:37:24 PM PST by onyx
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To: Bigtigermike

NOTHING gets between an APPARATCHIK and a VACATION.


27 posted on 01/07/2010 8:46:11 PM PST by Rome2000 (OBAMA IS A COMMUNIST CRYPTO-MUSLIM)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
The reality. This administration is simply a clone of the Clinton years, but with a few extra darker skinned folks running the show. It really is that simple. Why do so many folks here spin around in agony as to what he or she did not do. Don't be stuck on stupid. Throw some brown paint on BJ and the Mrs. and you have zero and his soul mate.
This is what the American people in majority wanted. This is what the rest of us got.
28 posted on 01/07/2010 9:07:15 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned....)
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To: Bigtigermike

This is not a big deal unless you are a republican.


29 posted on 01/07/2010 9:08:31 PM PST by rawhide
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

“Why was everyone avoiding DC that week? ... Did we dodge a bigger bullet?”

Napolitano phoned in from San Francisco.

...

0bama, Hawaii

Biden, Virgin Islands

Pelosi, Hawaii

Byrd, ???

Hillary ???


30 posted on 01/07/2010 9:11:33 PM PST by maggief
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To: Bigtigermike

None of those people did anything. By the time they heard about the problem, it had been dealt with, by a passenger.

Now CBS wants to make it a victory for long distance micro-management.


31 posted on 01/07/2010 9:13:00 PM PST by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards,com)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; Jet Jaguar; NormsRevenge; Grampa Dave; SierraWasp; Marine_Uncle; BIGLOOK; ...
JJ ought to be able to clue every one in....

We have no policy for defending the country anymore. Nothing proactive in any sense or practice.

The reactive policy is what you see now, a blame game, pass the buck, dodge the hard ball facts.


32 posted on 01/07/2010 9:15:15 PM PST by BIGLOOK (Keelhaul Congress!)
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To: BIGLOOK
Nothing new there for the lefties....

And check this out:

BBC Interviews Ted Koeppel: Is Obama 'overreacting' to Al Qaeda? ( Video )

33 posted on 01/07/2010 9:33:53 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Bigtigermike

Name the 4 most powerful weapons Obummer`s administration has used against terrorists on US soil:

Golf, Skiiing, Monterey Jack and Cable Cars


34 posted on 01/07/2010 9:38:27 PM PST by bunkerhill7 (God bless)
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To: BIGLOOK

We simply have a clone of the BJ administration. Pure and simple. One does not need to pull ones hair out in the pursuit of trying to figure it out.


35 posted on 01/07/2010 9:42:05 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned....)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Just saw that moments before. Koppel's wrong, our policy is nonexistent and Obama is negligent to the point of malfeasance of office.
36 posted on 01/07/2010 9:44:04 PM PST by BIGLOOK (Keelhaul Congress!)
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To: BIGLOOK

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article2320.htm

Nobody is talking about this. But, it is important to military leaders to use the Strategy as a guideline and consideration for making leadership decisions.

Obama has no strategy published.

http://www.strategicstudiesinstitute.army.mil/pdffiles/nss.pdf

http://www.defenselink.mil/news/2008%20national%20defense%20strategy.pdf

Obamas Current Page.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/administration/eop/nsc/

Goldwater Nichols Department of Defense Reorganization Act of 1986

http://www.ndu.edu/library/goldnich/goldnich.html

Goldwater-Nichols requires the new President publish a National Security Strategy within 180 days of taking office. July, 2009, was when it was due.

Still no strategy...


37 posted on 01/07/2010 9:56:20 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: Jet Jaguar; Ernest_at_the_Beach; NormsRevenge; Grampa Dave; SierraWasp; Marine_Uncle
Someone has to explain why our Feckless Leader wasn't kept up to speed through daily intel briefings....or did they delay his tee time? The intel on the panty bomber may well have been in the loop from some no name CIA agent in Lagos, passed over due to the cavalier attitude at the top that trickled down to the sycophant intel chiefs below (also on vacation, I might add). You're right on the mark, JJ. We ain't got strategy, we ain't got disciplined and rigorous intelligence, we got squat.

(Dave, you and I know that everyday we had had recaps of collections to read before you sailed or I flew. Some from us and a lot from others.)
38 posted on 01/07/2010 10:23:54 PM PST by BIGLOOK (Keelhaul Congress!)
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

Hmmmmm ....

Val was in HI with the 0’s, Rahm was in India ....


39 posted on 01/07/2010 10:34:45 PM PST by STARWISE (.They (LIBS-STILL) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war- Richard Miniter)
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To: BIGLOOK
I have to hit the rack. Briefly .... we are screwed. Duncan Hunter would have been the only wise choice for the American voter to elect to the spot of POTUS. Tis that simple.
And I am not going to respond on this issue. Don't like it... get screwed.
40 posted on 01/07/2010 10:49:18 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned....)
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights
Was DC a target?

Populated with welfare recipients & socialist RATs? We could only hope for such a miracle!!!

41 posted on 01/07/2010 10:59:08 PM PST by rcrngroup
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To: Bigtigermike

0 responded more quickly to his friends’ son’s beach bobo than he did the panty bomber.


42 posted on 01/07/2010 11:04:05 PM PST by Ready4Freddy ("It's not the number of burnt cars that worries me. It's the fact that everyone finds this normal..")
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To: maggief

Hillary went to the North Pole, deep cover, she probably knew more than most. Maybe she’s still there, no one misses her


43 posted on 01/07/2010 11:52:05 PM PST by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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To: Bigtigermike

In all honesty, the deputy heads of these alphabet agencies who remain at their posts over the holidays are more than capable of doing what needs to be done. The bosses all have secure comms, the President has the Football, and do we really want the terrs to know how to get all the VIPs back into DC on short notice? Now if the attack had succeeded, or the President was going to waterboard the terr himself, then it might be different.


44 posted on 01/08/2010 12:17:27 AM PST by PLMerite (Ride to the sound of the Guns - I'll probably need help.)
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To: Bigtigermike

I dislike this Obama administration as much or more than anyone else. However, I find it to be really silly for the news media and bloggers to be throwing rocks at them for not rushing back to their offices from their Christmas vacations because of the crotch bomber that failed in his terriorist attempt.

The One, his handlers and his department heads were able to communicate between each other and with their subordinates. Being physically in D.C. or not had no bearing on decisions that could have been and were made.

Jumping on the fact that so many were not in D.C. is just so much BS, like the MSM used to do everytime GW Bush would go to the ranch in Texas and claim he was “on vacation”; while he was always in contact with administration personnel throughout the world and working on US business probably more hours than he spent cutting brush.


45 posted on 01/08/2010 2:37:52 AM PST by octex
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To: Bigtigermike

That’s why Obamo wouldn’t blame anyone....they wasn’t anyone Home....vacated their posts is an understatement.

No excuse, they signed on to the job and it doesn’t mean vacation time is your time when the nations at risk. They should have all been brought back to their watch....most of all BO.


46 posted on 01/08/2010 3:11:58 AM PST by caww
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To: Bigtigermike
So much great info for ads in 2010 for conservatives:)
47 posted on 01/08/2010 3:46:23 AM PST by TornadoAlley3 (Obama is everything Oklahoma is not.)
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To: Bigtigermike

Yet Bush was criticized incessantly and mercilessly by the media and the talking heads for immediately flying over New Orleans after Katrina (after begging the mayor and the governor - neither of whom listened to him - to order mandatory evacuation and call the Nat’l Guard forward) and the levees broke (levees adminstered and run by the rats for years and who did NOTHING about fixing them because of the controlling rats siphoning off of levee repair funds to corrupt self-enrichment scams) instead of landing at the airport, which would have shut down the airport for hours and backed up aid, personnel and supplies from getting in.

I’m so sick of this I really can’t take much more.


48 posted on 01/08/2010 4:12:38 AM PST by chilltherats (First, kill all the lawyers (now that they ARE the tyrants).......)
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To: Bigtigermike; Protect the Bill of Rights
Yes it was...I’m sure a moderator changed it...

It is customary to use the original title so that searches by others will prevent double posting.

49 posted on 01/08/2010 4:29:33 AM PST by raybbr
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights; 1COUNTER-MORTER-68; jhpigott; MestaMachine; Nachum; SunkenCiv; ...
>>>> "Why was everyone avoiding DC that week?

I am not buying the fact that we narrowly escape another terrorist attack and NO ONE returned to DC?????

What are they not telling us? Was DC a target?

Did we dodge a bigger bullet?" <<<

Ding! Ding!! DING!!!
We have a winner!
Step right up HERE, folks -- we have a WINNER!!

50 posted on 01/08/2010 4:34:02 AM PST by hennie pennie
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