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To: rxsid
Yes, I'm as certain as anyone can be, that you have it exactly as it happened, and that someone was the GRANDMOTHER.

But as the evidence suggests, she was unable to obtain an actual CERTIFIED BIRTH CERTIFICATE because she had no supporting documentation.

So the APPLICATION remained FILED.

And what we have been shown is probably an ABSTRACT of the original APPLICATION...and that is also why the initial CoLB shown had no certificate number.

The black rectangle didn't cover a number IMO, the black rectangle was placed there to hide the fact there never was a number at all...

59 posted on 01/08/2010 5:12:02 PM PST by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: Fred Nerks; LucyT; rxsid; potlatch; Kenny Bunk; BP2

57,58,59

oh, bruddah!


64 posted on 01/08/2010 5:48:26 PM PST by bitt (You can’t make a weak man strong by making a strong man weak (Abraham Lincoln))
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To: Fred Nerks; LucyT; rxsid; potlatch; Kenny Bunk; BP2
“Yes, I'm as certain as anyone can be, that you have it exactly as it happened, and that someone was the GRANDMOTHER.

“But as the evidence suggests, she was unable to obtain an actual CERTIFIED BIRTH CERTIFICATE because she had no supporting documentation.

“So the APPLICATION remained FILED.”

I agree. The fact that this application was filed with an “unknown” allegedly Kenya birth location could have opened the door for Obama to come in some time after 1982 (whenever it was advantageous for him to do it) and request an amendment to show a Honolulu birth location based on “new evidence” perhaps provided by his mom or grandma.

This explains how the amendment that D’Onofrio believes he established in the vital record index release could have occurred solely to change the birth location without any need for an adoption related change. The document appears to have been unaltered from the date filed up to the time that the 1982 statutory notation was made, which seems to preclude any adoption amendment to the record during the period prior to 1982 when a Soetoro adoption would have occurred.

The next question is how to get the person who has this document (Ohio lawyer, was it?) to turn it over to a lawyer who can get it in front of a judge. Hemenway's Hollister case is a long shot. D'Onofrio's quo warranto discovery might force HI to produce the original, if D'Onofrio gets standing.

68 posted on 01/08/2010 7:09:53 PM PST by Seizethecarp
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