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Brit Hume's Tiger Woods Remarks Shine Light On True intolerance
Washington Post ^ | January 08th 2010 | Michael Gerson

Posted on 01/08/2010 5:40:45 PM PST by Steelfish

Brit Hume's Tiger Woods Remarks Shine Light On True intolerance

By Michael Gerson January 8, 2010

After urging Tiger Woods to accept the "forgiveness and redemption that is offered by the Christian faith" -- and comparing Buddhism unfavorably to that hope -- journalist Brit Hume insisted he was not proselytizing. In this, he is wrong. His words exemplify proselytization. For this, Hume has been savaged. Post media critic Tom Shales put him in the category of a "sanctimonious busybody" engaged in "telling people what religious beliefs they ought to have." Blogger Andrew Sullivan criticized Hume's "pure sectarianism," which helps abolish "the distinction between secular and religious discourse." MSNBC's David Shuster called Hume's religious advice "truly embarrassing."

The assumption of these criticisms is that proselytization is the antonym of tolerance. Asserting the superiority of one's religious beliefs, in this view, is not merely bad manners; it involves a kind of divisive, offensive judgmentalism. But the American idea of religious liberty does not forbid proselytization; it presupposes it. Free, autonomous individuals not only have the right to hold whatever beliefs they wish, they also have the right to change those beliefs and to persuade others to change as well. Just as there is no political liberty without the right to change one's convictions and publicly argue for them, there is no religious liberty without the possibility of conversion and persuasion.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: antichristianbigotry; brithume; christians; foxnews; gerson; tigerwoods

1 posted on 01/08/2010 5:40:45 PM PST by Steelfish
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To: Steelfish

It does indeed. Intolerant people like Michael Gerson are popping out from under rocks everywhere to show their hatred for Christians.


2 posted on 01/08/2010 5:45:31 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Steelfish

I am convinced that 99.999999% of liberals in this country are unbelievers and will roast in hell (the Lake of Fire) forever after being judged at the Great White Throne Judgement. They will be cast into hell, screaming & cursing, receiving their just rewards throughout eternity.


3 posted on 01/08/2010 5:46:30 PM PST by rcrngroup
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To: Steelfish

Gerson is an idiot.....


4 posted on 01/08/2010 5:46:30 PM PST by BamaDi (I'm glad that I'm free, though I wish I was a dog and Obama was a tree!)
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To: Steelfish

What a loser.


5 posted on 01/08/2010 5:48:34 PM PST by Vision ("Did I not say to you that if you would believe, you would see the glory of God?" John 11:40)
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To: BamaDi; Cicero

Actually, if you read the whole article it’s a a strong and spirited defense of Brit Hume.


6 posted on 01/08/2010 5:49:31 PM PST by Steelfish
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To: rcrngroup
I am convinced that 99.999999% of liberals in this country are unbelievers and will roast in hell (the Lake of Fire) forever after being judged at the Great White Throne Judgement. They will be cast into hell, screaming & cursing, receiving their just rewards throughout eternity.

Hell will spit them out, fearful of the competition.

7 posted on 01/08/2010 5:50:36 PM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: BamaDi

If you would bother to read what Gearson actually wrote prior to commenting on it, you would know that he was defending Hume. The intolerance he decries is that of Hume’s critics.


8 posted on 01/08/2010 5:51:20 PM PST by Lucas McCain
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To: Steelfish
Asserting the superiority of one's religious beliefs, in this view, is not merely bad manners; it involves a kind of divisive, offensive judgmentalism.

Gerson sums up his beliefs in one sentence. He believes in the Great Nothing.

9 posted on 01/08/2010 5:51:37 PM PST by A message
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To: A message

Are you hard of reading?


10 posted on 01/08/2010 5:52:59 PM PST by Kirkwood
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To: Kirkwood

Why yes I am. And yes I saw the other posts and realized I posted without reading the WHOLE article.


11 posted on 01/08/2010 5:54:37 PM PST by A message
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To: Steelfish

Freepers are intolerant of the Washington Post, causing knee-jerk reaction.


12 posted on 01/08/2010 5:55:29 PM PST by Misterioso (To deal with men by force is as impractical as to deal with nature by persuasion. -- Ayn Rand)
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To: Steelfish
In this controversy, we are presented with two models of discourse. Hume, in an angry sea of loss and tragedy -- his son's death in 1998 -- found a life preserver in faith. He offered that life preserver to another drowning man. Whatever your view of Hume's beliefs, he could have no motive other than concern for Woods himself.

I disagree with the "drowning man" part. Brit was speaking from his heart..offering a life preserver from a father to a son.

13 posted on 01/08/2010 5:57:33 PM PST by spectre (Spectre's wife (11/02/10)
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To: Steelfish

Up is down and down is up; black is white and white is black; right is wrong and wrong is right.


14 posted on 01/08/2010 5:58:51 PM PST by Ge0ffrey
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To: TonyRo76
Of course he was.

sw

16 posted on 01/08/2010 6:00:38 PM PST by spectre (Spectre's wife (11/02/10)
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To: Cicero

I feel sorry for him.


17 posted on 01/08/2010 6:02:02 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Steelfish

How did the Compost editors let this one slip by?


18 posted on 01/08/2010 6:04:04 PM PST by Eagles6 ( Typical White Guy: Christian, Constitutionalist, Heterosexual, Redneck.)
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To: Cicero

I take it you didn’t read the column ? Try reading it before attacking Gerson, might help.


19 posted on 01/08/2010 6:04:44 PM PST by EDINVA
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To: Steelfish
The only people who are not allowed to have pride are white Christians.

But I have it, anyway!

20 posted on 01/08/2010 6:04:44 PM PST by bannie (Somebody has to go to seed...it might as well be me!)
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To: BamaDi

Did you read the article?


21 posted on 01/08/2010 6:07:22 PM PST by arkady_renko
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To: Steelfish; zot; The Shrew
A lucid, powerfully-argued indictment of the anti-Christian mindset of the secular Left.

Here is Gerson's conclusion:

In this controversy, we are presented with two models of discourse. Hume, in an angry sea of loss and tragedy -- his son's death in 1998 -- found a life preserver in faith. He offered that life preserver to another drowning man. Whatever your view of Hume's beliefs, he could have no motive other than concern for Woods himself.

The other model has come from critics such as Shales, in a spittle-flinging rage at the mention of religion in public, comparing Hume to "Mary Poppins on the joys of a tidy room, or Ron Popeil on the glories of some amazing potato peeler." Shales, of course, is engaged in proselytism of his own -- for a secular fundamentalism that trivializes and banishes all other faiths. He distributes the sacrament of the sneer.

Who in this picture is more intolerant?

It is stunning to read this in the Washington Post.

It equally stunning to see how many FR posters failed to read and/or comprehend this remarkable article before posting about it.

22 posted on 01/08/2010 6:07:55 PM PST by Interesting Times (For the truth about "swift boating" see ToSetTheRecordStraight.com)
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To: A message

Gerson is not summing his beliefs. Rather, he posits this as the belief of Hume’s critics and then continues to dissect and assail them.


23 posted on 01/08/2010 6:11:35 PM PST by Steelfish
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To: Steelfish

Brit knows what he is talking about. He lost an adult son some years ago under circumstances that I do not recall. He knows where to seek peace and solace.


24 posted on 01/08/2010 6:12:32 PM PST by Theodore R. (...)
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To: Interesting Times; A message

I wish FReepers read the whole article before rushing to condemn Gerson.


25 posted on 01/08/2010 6:13:11 PM PST by Steelfish
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To: Steelfish
GERSON IS DEFENDING HUME, DAMMIT! READ THE PIECE!
26 posted on 01/08/2010 6:14:26 PM PST by montag813
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To: Steelfish

Those who scream the loudest demanding “tolerance” are usually the most intolerant of them all. Hypocrites.


27 posted on 01/08/2010 6:14:31 PM PST by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: Steelfish

I, too, almost commented before reading the entire article. I think the headline may have thrown us.


28 posted on 01/08/2010 6:19:10 PM PST by Joann37
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To: Steelfish

That is what I gleamed as well..


29 posted on 01/08/2010 6:19:12 PM PST by richardtavor
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To: A message; Lazmataz

LOL, you’re in good company - I believe it was the esteemed, long-time Freeper, Lazmataz, whose tagline for many years was “proudly posting without reading since 1998”


30 posted on 01/08/2010 6:20:15 PM PST by Inspectorette
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To: Steelfish
Whats funny, and yet kind of sad, is that you don't even have to click through and read the entire article. This small excerpt is enough to know that this article is a defense of Hume...

Sheesh..

31 posted on 01/08/2010 6:21:34 PM PST by Paradox (ObamaCare = Logan's Run ; There is no Sanctuary!)
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To: Ge0ffrey

yep, that’s what Isaiah said about the culture of his day almost three thousand years ago. Read it. Sounds just like today.


32 posted on 01/08/2010 6:29:02 PM PST by Jude in WV
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To: Steelfish
....Did I miss something? Isn't Brit Hume from the LDS or Morman side of the equation?

What is Brit's background?

34 posted on 01/08/2010 6:36:06 PM PST by pointsal
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To: TonyRo76
This is a brilliant piece, raising many good points. Not the least of which: secular-fundamentalism is indeed one of the most intolerant religions out there.

And it's not hard to understand why. You can't, at once, be a libertine and believe in a God whose creation includes standards of behavior.

36 posted on 01/08/2010 6:39:51 PM PST by Mr Ramsbotham (Obey the law, or you'll go to prison and be raped.)
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To: pointsal

Brit was raised Episcopalian. The “old” Episcopalian church


37 posted on 01/08/2010 6:41:58 PM PST by EDINVA
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To: Steelfish; EDINVA; Vendome; TonyRo76; BamaDi

Quite right. Apologies for helping to mess up the discussion on this thread. I read the first couple of paragraphs carelessly and jumped to the wrong conclusion.

He’s actually saying pretty much what I was saying, so I was wrong to accuse him of belonging to the intolerant group.

Kind of a surprise to read this in the WaPost.


38 posted on 01/08/2010 6:48:24 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: BamaDi
Gerson is an idiot.....

Seems insightful to me. Did we just read the same article?

39 posted on 01/08/2010 7:00:02 PM PST by AndyTheBear
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To: Cicero
I think that happened to several people. It's a good article, but one of the hazards of being educated is that you think you have to circle a point three times before you make it.

I would love to read a version of this article by Walter Williams. He is the best editorial writer alive, packing more true thought into a few short sentences than most can put in a novel.

40 posted on 01/08/2010 7:01:00 PM PST by Richard Kimball (We're all criminals. They just haven't figured out what some of us have done yet.)
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To: Cicero; Steelfish
Quite right. Apologies for helping to mess up the discussion on this thread. I read the first couple of paragraphs carelessly and jumped to the wrong conclusion.

Egg on my face too.

41 posted on 01/08/2010 7:02:50 PM PST by A message
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To: rcrngroup
I am convinced that 99.999999% of liberals in this country are unbelievers and will roast in hell (the Lake of Fire) forever after being judged at the Great White Throne Judgement. They will be cast into hell, screaming & cursing, receiving their just rewards throughout eternity.

"But when that servant went out, he found one of his fellow servants who owed him a hundred denarii. He grabbed him and began to choke him. 'Pay back what you owe me!' he demanded.

Mathew 18:28 (NIV)

42 posted on 01/08/2010 7:07:08 PM PST by AndyTheBear
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To: Interesting Times

Thanks for the ping.

Yes, this article is a powerful indictment of the anti-christian mindset, and a powerful defense of religious freedom.

I am surprised that it was published in the Washington Post, but I am no longer surprised that many Freepers posted their replies without reading the article.


44 posted on 01/08/2010 7:44:32 PM PST by zot
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To: Steelfish
I watched this segment on Fox News and thought I heard one man reaching out to another in pain. Is that not duty of a man who serves his god. I did not find Britt's statements appalling at all.

We are a Christian nation and should act like one in helping our fellow man when he stumbles. For those who criticize this action by Britt should look to themselves and ask the following question?

What advice would I give Woods that could potentially have the a positive impact on his life. The talking heads offered no advice to Woods but were more interested in attacking Hume for having the gall to offer Woods a potential solution to a better chance at changing and regaining his family and true happiness.

45 posted on 01/08/2010 8:30:22 PM PST by reader25
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