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Unruly man grounds AirTran flight(Muhammad Abu Tahir: caused F-16 scramble)
AJC ^ | 01/08/10 | Mashaun D. Simon

Posted on 01/08/2010 10:24:26 PM PST by TigerLikesRooster

Unruly man grounds AirTran flight

By Mashaun D. Simon

The Atlanta Journal-Constitution

9:16 p.m. Friday, January 8, 2010

The unruly and allegedly drunk passenger who forced an emergency landing of an AirTran jet flying from Atlanta to San Francisco Friday is being held over the weekend in anticipation of federal charges being filed Monday.

Muhammad Abu Tahir, 46, of Virginia was transported to the El Paso, Co. County jail where he will be detained on a federal hold, said FBI officials.

Federal charges for interference with a flight crew are expected to be filed, FBI spokeswoman Kathleen Wright told the AJC Friday night.

The incident occurred on AirTran flight #39 as the plane neared Colorado Springs, Co. AirTran spokesman Tad Hutcheson told the AJC Friday afternoon. The Boeing 737 was almost four hours into the flight, and had 132 passengers and five crew on board.

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TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; US: California; US: Colorado; US: Georgia; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: airlinesecurity; airtran; drunk; f16; flight39; muhammadabutahir; tahir; terrorism
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So it was a 'drunken' Muslim. In light of this, scrambling two F-16's turn out to be appropriate.
1 posted on 01/08/2010 10:24:27 PM PST by TigerLikesRooster
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To: Cindy

P!


2 posted on 01/08/2010 10:25:07 PM PST by TigerLikesRooster (LUV DIC -- L,U,V-shaped recession, Depression, Inflation, Collapse)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Muhammad Abu Tahir, 46, of Virginia

Hmmm. I bet that guy is Amish.


3 posted on 01/08/2010 10:25:48 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: Jet Jaguar
He could just be a sound principled religious man.
4 posted on 01/08/2010 10:28:32 PM PST by MaxMax (Lets get a sense)
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To: TigerLikesRooster; Cindy; Velveeta; JustPiper

Another article which can’t be posted said he grabbed a flight attendant’s arm, then took off his socks and shoes and threw them.


5 posted on 01/08/2010 10:28:49 PM PST by STARWISE (.They (LIBS-STILL) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war- Richard Miniter)
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"Muhammad Abu Tahir"????

.......'scuse me........it that an Irish or Norweigan name?

6 posted on 01/08/2010 10:29:36 PM PST by NoRedTape
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Forced labor under confinement to pay in full ALL the costs of his acting out his Jihadist boner, not to mention full prosecution of any and all criminal behavior.
7 posted on 01/08/2010 10:35:07 PM PST by EyeGuy
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To: Jet Jaguar
I bet he has also been Skyping with Anwar Al-Awlaqi over in Yemen, too.

Some of these have GOT to be tests.

Always ask.

W.W.E.A.D.?

What would El-Al do?

8 posted on 01/08/2010 10:50:23 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Obama outsourcing his "Reichstag Fire" to foreign Islamoterrorists now on or heading to US soil?)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

They seem to like Airtran don’t they?


9 posted on 01/08/2010 10:52:11 PM PST by rdl6989 (January 20, 2013 The end of an error.)
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To: rdl6989
If you say that to AirTran PR persons, they will freak out.

The worst publicty airline can image: “Jihads love our planes.” :-)

10 posted on 01/08/2010 10:53:51 PM PST by TigerLikesRooster (LUV DIC -- L,U,V-shaped recession, Depression, Inflation, Collapse)
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To: NoRedTape

Sounds chinese to me...lol

How much more abuse are they going to take before they start using good ole profiling..and keep them off the damned planes. Better yet, throw them all the hell out of OUR country.


11 posted on 01/08/2010 10:57:15 PM PST by New Yawk Minute
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To: STARWISE

Satan has got them all tied up in knots. What’s with the damn shoes anyway?


12 posted on 01/08/2010 10:58:28 PM PST by eyedigress ( now.)
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To: eyedigress

I think its like giving someone the finger...


13 posted on 01/08/2010 11:11:16 PM PST by goat granny
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To: TigerLikesRooster

What happens on the day that 2-300 of these jihadists take over that many airplanes all over the world?


14 posted on 01/08/2010 11:11:20 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2 million for Sarah Palin: What will you do?)
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To: Jet Jaguar; StarFan; Dutchy; alisasny; BobFromNJ; BUNNY2003; Cacique; Clemenza; Coleus; cyborg; ...
Muhammad Abu Tahir, 46, of Virginia

Hmmm. I bet that guy is Amish.

OH yeah...

15 posted on 01/08/2010 11:17:07 PM PST by nutmeg (Rush Limbaugh & Sarah Palin agree: NO third parties! Take back the GOP)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
So, what's going to happen when one of the obamites gets overzealous about serving dear reader and orders those F-16's to shoot down a loaded 737 because some nutcase locked himself in the restroom?

American warplanes shooting down an American passenger jet...that should work really well for the kenyan.

He's got all this building up to a high-pitched fervor to cover his own ass, and he's playing right into the hands of Al Qaeda.

America is in the hands of an idiot.
16 posted on 01/08/2010 11:17:29 PM PST by FrankR (Unions promote socialism and mass mediocrity amongst human beings, at their own expense.)
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To: goat granny

I’ll leave that alone.


17 posted on 01/08/2010 11:21:21 PM PST by eyedigress ( now.)
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To: eyedigress

I think they are testing us. And they are testing very very often us since the flying immams...since a while. This is NOT good. Something big is up.


18 posted on 01/08/2010 11:23:47 PM PST by American Dream 246
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Or...a “cry wolf” plan.

IOW—you get a good number of muslims to ACT like they are a threat...cause a disturbance on some plane or such..over and over..

After enough times of ‘false alarms” and the ensuing ACLU and ACORN, SEIU and CAIR lawsuits over “rights of the poor innocent Muslims”..THEN...the TSA would begin to think”we are overreacting” and start ignoring said actions. At that point the REAL terrorist acts coud go ahead unheeded—till it is too late to stop them.

Just a thought.


19 posted on 01/08/2010 11:24:02 PM PST by Rca2000 ( " Call me a prude? maybe...but then,if there were more "prudes" we would not be in this mess now.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
A quiz for the kenyan:

A lot of Americans have become so insulated from reality… Absolutely No Profiling! Pause a moment, reflect back, and take the following multiple choice test.

These events are actual events from history.. They really happened! Do you remember?

HERE'S THE TEST

1. 1968 Bobby Kennedy was shot and killed by:

a.. Superman
b. Jay Leno
c. Harry Potter
d. A Muslim male extremist between the ages of 17 and 40


2. In 1972 at the Munich Olympics, athletes were kidnapped and massacred by :

a. Olga Corbett
b. Sitting Bull
c. Arnold Schwarzenegger
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40


3. In 1979, the US embassy in Iran was taken over by:

a. Lost Norwegians
b. Elvis
c. A tour bus full of 80-year-old women
d . Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40


4. During the 1980's a number of Americans were kidnapped in Lebanon by:

a. John Dillinger
b. The King of Sweden
c. The Boy Scouts
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40


5. In 1983, the US Marine barracks in Beirut was blown up by:

a. A pizza delivery boy
b. Pee Wee Herman
c.. Geraldo Rivera
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40


6. In 1985 the cruise ship Achille Lauro was hijacked and a 70 year old American passenger was murdered and thrown overboard in his wheelchair by:

a. The Smurfs
b. Davey Jones
c. The Little Mermaid
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40


7. In 1985 TWA flight 847 was hijacked at Athens , and a US Navy diver trying to rescue passengers was murdered by:

a. Captain Kidd
b. Charles Lindberg
c. Mother Teresa
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40


8. In 1988, Pan Am Flight 103 was bombed by:

a. Scooby Doo
b. The Tooth Fairy
c. The Sundance Kid
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40


9. In 1993 the World Trade Center was bombed the first time by:

a. Richard Simmons
b. Grandma Moses
c. Michael Jordan
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40


10. In 1998, the US embassies in Kenya and Tanzania were bombed by:

a. Mr. Rogers
b. Hillary Clinton, to distract attention from Wild Bill's women problems
c. The World Wrestling Federation
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40


11. On 9/11/01, four airliners were hijacked; two were used as missiles to take out the World Trade Centers and of the remaining two, one crashed into the US Pentagon and the other was diverted and crashed by the passengers. Thousands of people were killed by:

a. Bugs Bunny, Wiley E. Coyote, Daffy Duck and Elmer Fudd
b. The Supreme Court of Florida
c. Mr Bean
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40


12. In 2002 the United States fought a war in Afghanistan against:

a. Enron
b. The Lutheran Church
c. The NFL
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40


13. In 2002 reporter Daniel Pearl was kidnapped and murdered by:

a. Bonnie and Clyde
b. Captain Kangaroo
c. Billy Graham
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40



No, I really don't see a pattern here to justify profiling, do you?

So, to ensure we Americans never offend anyone, particularly fanatics intent on killing us, airport security screeners will no longer be allowed to profile certain people..

They must conduct random searches of 80-year-old women, little kids, airline pilots with proper identification, secret agents who are members of the President's security detail, 85-year old Congressmen with metal hips, and Medal of Honor winner and former Governor Joe Foss, but leave Muslim Males between the ages 17 and 40 alone lest they be guilty of profiling.
20 posted on 01/08/2010 11:24:10 PM PST by FrankR (Unions promote socialism and mass mediocrity amongst human beings, at their own expense.)
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To: FrankR

AL Qaeda is winning the march against freedom. America and her knee-jerk reactions are plain stupid. Profile and be done with it already.


21 posted on 01/08/2010 11:26:14 PM PST by eyedigress ( now.)
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To: FrankR

Good post.


22 posted on 01/08/2010 11:28:24 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: FrankR
It's OK to profile for Affirmative Action programs.

It's OK to profile for Diversity programs.

It's OK to profile with the Census.

You can't profile for National Security.

23 posted on 01/08/2010 11:29:35 PM PST by TigersEye (Tar & feathers! Pitchforks and torches! ... Get some while supplies last.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Muhammad Abu Tahir

Allahu {hic!} {stumble} Akbar!

24 posted on 01/08/2010 11:31:40 PM PST by Allegra (It doesn't matter what this tagline says...the liberals are going to call it "racist.")
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To: Jet Jaguar; FrankR

Yes it was. To bad dumbasses are in charge and fail to use the good sense God gave them. If you don’t believe in God and Satan, Satan will capture you, thats his mission. It ends in misery and death.


25 posted on 01/08/2010 11:34:21 PM PST by eyedigress ( now.)
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To: American Dream 246

This Country can be secure in an instant. The things going on lead me to believe they do not want it secure. I feel that socialism is using fear to eradicate personal freedom.


26 posted on 01/09/2010 12:42:48 AM PST by eyedigress ( now.)
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To: Liz; STARWISE; onyx; maggie; Bahbah

Hmmm Wonder is out leaders all left Washington over the holidays because they knew an attack was in the works and they thought the target was DC????????


27 posted on 01/09/2010 2:27:06 AM PST by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: STARWISE

There was a tweet that said that he emerged from the bathroom without his socks and shoes - and holding a razor.

If he’d already thrown his socks and shoes at the flight attendant, that would explain that part of it. But where’d he get the razor?


28 posted on 01/09/2010 2:33:49 AM PST by livius
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To: livius

What really concerns me is that the other passengers may have not noticed anything odd or different about this guy, that these Muslims are getting taught how to “blend in”.

The pressure must be on, they get scrutinized more intensely, they have fellow passengers openly eyeballing them, air crews possibly reassigning an air marshal next them plus the Islamic indignity of being body scanned.

Its obvious what they thought was a weakness in their favor of American PC they now find open hostility, segregation and constant surveillance. And this is a tactic they cannot deal with and is creating these situations of sudden Jihad syndrome to occur, and its going to keep on happening, Muslims may be organizing a mass air transport, buy tickets anywhere, create as many skirmishes as they can, make hundreds of flights cancel, turn around or tie up other assets like ANG.

Pretty much all that can be done is at this stage is for the no fly lists to be expanded to include more restrictions of Muslims in the profile age.


29 posted on 01/09/2010 2:49:38 AM PST by Eye of Unk (Phobos, kerdos, and doxa, said the Time Traveler. “Fear, self-interest, and honor.”)
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To: Eye of Unk
Muslims may be organizing a mass air transport, buy tickets anywhere, create as many skirmishes as they can, make hundreds of flights cancel, turn around or tie up other assets like ANG.

That's what I think too. They won't be able to kill any infidels, but the penalties for this type of behavior are not very severe and they can still do a lot of damage to the Great Satan by bogging down our transportation system (and our lives!).

30 posted on 01/09/2010 2:54:27 AM PST by livius
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bttt


31 posted on 01/09/2010 3:15:32 AM PST by DollyCali (Don't tell God how big your storm is...Tell the storm how big your God is!)
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To: Eye of Unk

Unless they’re planning to get so bad so as to force a shoot down and that’s how they plan to kill hundreds of people in the plane. Sort of suicide by cop, in the air.


32 posted on 01/09/2010 3:20:32 AM PST by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
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To: little jeremiah

I doubt we will see any shoot down except possibly near a nuke plant or Washington DC.

As it stands right now its near impossible to take control of a commercial aircraft and its a taboo subject in some respects but ground controllers can remotely control aircraft with auto pilots to keep them in a holding pattern.

Diversionary? from what? At sea attacks on cruise ships?

I fear the single most advantageous tool that Muslim terrorists have right now is big rigs, 18 wheelers that can be used in many ways to create traffic accidents, tunnel explosions, under water tunnel fires etc.

Given in due time with these air incidents bus and train travel will expand, possibly passenger ships for Atlantic crossing may re-appear though in our get it now society I doubt it.

Getting cattle to move to the slaughterhouse pens require a good and abundant application of cattle prods, where are the Muslims herding us to?


33 posted on 01/09/2010 3:29:16 AM PST by Eye of Unk (Phobos, kerdos, and doxa, said the Time Traveler. “Fear, self-interest, and honor.”)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They won’t get that far today. The passengers all know there is only one result if the plane is comandered and someone will stand up to do a Todd Beamer and crew on them.


34 posted on 01/09/2010 3:31:58 AM PST by mazda77 (Rubio for US Senate - West FL22nd - Dockery for Gov.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

I’ve got a trip coming up next month to go train in some advanced mixed martial arts. If there’s a guy like this on my plane, training will begin earlier than scheduled...


35 posted on 01/09/2010 4:34:52 AM PST by islander-11 (Save Nantucket - Vote Republican!!!)
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To: All

Guys and gal, I had a thought on this. Even if this idiot was not a terrorist, he terrified the people on the plane, tied up military assets and created a media stir, just by doing the comparatively things that he did.

His profit/loss balance worked out for him. He won’t do any jail time, he will probably get lauded by the folks at his mosque and he got away with giving the US a big scare. His losses? He is interrogated for a while, perhaps surveilled a bit, and put on a watch list, maybe a no-fly.

Even if the punishment was harsher, CAIR would be the first jumping up and down about religious and ethnic persecution.


36 posted on 01/09/2010 5:00:21 AM PST by Molon Labbie
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To: AmericanInTokyo

I agree-testing.

And like a magician, you have to keep your eyes on the other hand which may be reaching for trains, subways, malls etc?

These people are NOT stupid, unfortunately, Janet & Co are...self induced stupidity caused by excessive kool-aid drinking.


37 posted on 01/09/2010 5:02:39 AM PST by homegroan (ZQczar...happily addicted to the Refresh Button.....)
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To: homegroan

Exactly. The Jihadists training quite frankly, many of them in Yemen and some elsewhere, is to hit TRANSPORTATION, and that is not limited to just air travel, but can and could include busses, trains, tunnels for expressways, subways, etc. and also crowded places like churches, malls, schools, public entertainment events. It is just that air travel is getting the attention and efforts these days, while they could be engaging in diversionary tactics and hit other areas just as well. I think the American People out there sense it, but I know for a fact that while the Administration, which has far more Intelligence (not as in “smarts” but as in “information”) than the People, has only 1/100th of the WILL of the People to stand up to it. We are all pretty much on our own, just like Katrina heading for land. Don’t count on the Government.


38 posted on 01/09/2010 6:32:50 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo (Obama outsourcing his "Reichstag Fire" to foreign Islamoterrorists now on or heading to US soil?)
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To: TigersEye

Bingo, we have a winner!!!


39 posted on 01/09/2010 6:46:52 AM PST by BillM
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To: homegroan
As a recall, about 2 months prior to the 9/11 attacks, actor James Woods was on a flight with one of the soon to be 9/11 terrorist. I do believe this is the prelude to another attack on this country and when you hear these stories (the man going passed airport security and not being found again, the underwear bomber, etc.) think about how these similar things happened right before 9/11.

The only way our elected officials in DC will ever give a rat's rear about this sort of thing is if they are forced to give up their private planes and fly on the same possible target the rest of us are flying on!

40 posted on 01/09/2010 7:04:52 AM PST by 4everontheRight ("Boy, those French: They have a different word for everything! "- Steve Martin)
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To: AmericanInTokyo; 4everontheRight

Imagine if, like our Founders, they lived and traveled like the rest of us? No private planes, cars, security, healthcare, bonuses, paid global travel-vacations and they could only shop at WalMart and Sears.

It would change a LOT of things in this country.

Maybe they would start to even get some common sense if they had to live like ‘commoners’.

That’s why they can’t see what’s coming. They can’t even sense what we, the American people sense is about to happen. We all feel the danger right now and I, quite frankly, do not feel safe traveling or in a crowded public place of ANY kind. And what are they spending day and night on-in secret??-our healthcare. And what good is that if we are not safe and are being slowly infiltrated?

I think the enemy are sitting back and laughing at us- using a machine to look thru people’s clothes and frisk a nun in a wheel chair.
They are attacking us on MANY different fronts at the same time; not only are they trying to kill us openly on airplanes, but they have moved into our country, our schools, our govt. They work for our airlines,they are in our military. They are doctors and lawyers and business owners. The list goes on and on. They have successfully managed to blend in thanx to our PC-culture.

They have infected our country and right now, we have a compromised immune system thanx to Obama-a muslim.

We, the people can see it and feel it because we don’t live behind the New Iron Curtain. And the survivors will be the ones who don’t look to the DC-govt for what to do next.

Americans are on their own and I think that that is stressing people out more than anything; we at FR are the lucky ones-we know NOT to count on them for anything, but the rest of Americans are like sheep without a shepherd. All they know is that we are in trouble, so while we evil conservatives cling to our guns and God, they just hang onto the remote control and the latest issue of People Magazine.


41 posted on 01/09/2010 8:43:06 AM PST by homegroan (ZQczar...happily addicted to the Refresh Button.....)
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To: FrankR
No, I really don't see a pattern here to justify profiling, do you?

These are simply isolated incidents of extremism by people who have hijacked a religion. .... YEAH RIGHT....

Common sense will tell you that these terrorists are always testing the waters. They did it under Clinton , Bush and even now when the whole world loves our Dear Reader. As much as the success or failure of an attempt, is our reaction and response.

When Bush was in he took a measured tone and acted deliberately, in short he treated it as an act of war. Under 0Dumbo we get mixed messages, followed by indecision until the public and even the MSM starts asking "what the h#ll is going on here?". Then we get backpedaling, lots of false bluster couched in PC terms and in general a keystone cops act. Now maybe behind the scenes things are proceeding smoothly. I'd like to think so, but perception is everything in this game. The terrorists watch our media and see the public reaction and so even though the attack itself failed, they see Zippy's administration thrown for a loop and so they declare victory on their websites, thus encouraging more attempts.

42 posted on 01/09/2010 8:53:52 AM PST by YankeeReb
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To: TigerLikesRooster

He (and all other flight disruptors, no matter the nationality) should get an automatic 10 years in prison and made to pay restitution for the scrambled jet costs.

Just sayin’


43 posted on 01/09/2010 8:53:52 AM PST by Monkey Face (I wear a yellow ribbon for ForgotenKnight my Army hero and Anoreth warrior goddess of the Coasties)
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To: TigerLikesRooster


Muhammad Abu Tahir

Not this Islamic Sh-t again....
This is really getting old.


44 posted on 01/09/2010 9:02:01 AM PST by VOA
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To: nutmeg

Thanks for the ping!


45 posted on 01/09/2010 10:12:11 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl; All

A serious question for ALL.

Just what do you all think will be the result, if, say there is a serious attack somewhere soon—that kills or/and injures thousands?? Be it a plane, bus, by a rig or somewhere in a public gathering??

Would Zero and his merry brigade finally realize “man, we have GOT to get tough on these Muslims—and stop this kind of stuff—tell CAIR to go to hell- turn some terrorist spots to charred embers, and crack down here—do true profiling for trouble—and even—dare I say it—some “friendly persuasion” techniques— ALA “Jack Bauer” on any terrorists caught??

Or...would they ramble on about “oh...this was an attempt to make Obama look bad by Bush, Palin, Cheney and the CIA”—like they did yesterday— and instead target ALL OF US— and restrict OUR freedoms??


46 posted on 01/09/2010 12:44:08 PM PST by Rca2000 ( " Call me a prude? maybe...but then,if there were more "prudes" we would not be in this mess now.)
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To: Rca2000
Or...would they ramble on about “oh...this was an attempt to make Obama look bad by Bush, Palin, Cheney and the CIA”—like they did yesterday— and instead target ALL OF US— and restrict OUR freedoms??

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, what do you think...???

47 posted on 01/09/2010 12:55:47 PM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: Rca2000

I doubt if this administration is capable of accepting personal responsibility, the buck will be passed in their own minds.


48 posted on 01/09/2010 1:21:24 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: eyedigress

I am sadly afraid you might be right


49 posted on 01/09/2010 3:14:41 PM PST by boxlunch
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To: boxlunch

Profile mooslims. If they are allowed to do the dirty deed on the USA, there will probably soon be none left to profile.


50 posted on 01/09/2010 3:21:37 PM PST by hal ogen
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