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Barack Obama Nationality Scandal
Independant News ^ | January 9, 2010

Posted on 01/09/2010 1:34:54 PM PST by Red Steel

There have been rumbles of unrest around the world regarding Obama’s nationality since the day he stated he would run for the presidency. Now, after more than a year as president of the USA, the rumbles have turned into a full on eruption.

The Barack Obama nationality scandal is refusing to burn itself out and seems to be gathering even more speed with Congressman Nathan Deal questioning the eligibility of Obama to hold the presidency. This is the first time in history that a serving president has been questioned about eligibility by a member of congress.

Over the last week the internet has been reporting this story with the blogosphere almost going into meltdown over the latest developments yet no mainstream media seem interested in the story that just won’t go away for Obama.

Congressman Deal asked the president to prove that he is legally entitled to hold the presidency electronically on December 1st 2009. This communication was confirmed received by Obama’s staff but has yet to be responded to.

Even though the president has already produced his short-form birth certificate in order to stop these questions, he has spent a large amount of taxpayers money (estimated to be more than two million dollars) ensuring that the long-form certificate is kept from the public – an action that has raised more than a few eyebrows along the way.

Throughout the campaign trail and longer, Obama made promises of the most transparent administration than any other so why the need to hide a simple birth certificate? Many claim that the whole situation is a complete waste of time and distracting but supporters of the question refuse to stop asking more and more questions.

It seems that the original question seems to have caused a stir not just in America but worldwide with thousands of people doing independent research in an attempt to get the facts out. The problem with independent research is that it is hard to verify where the alleged facts came from and when they are traced back its not unusual to find that it stemmed from opinion.

With several birth certificates doing the rounds, many proven as hoaxes, the ‘official’ birth certificate in the Obama nationality scandal seems to prove that the president was in fact a British Subject at birth. On the website dedicated to protecting Obama from smears, Fight The Smears, there is an electronic copy of the birth certificate showing that Obama was born a British Subject. This in itself has been the cause for much speculation on how, why and when nationality was transferred.

Obama’s nationality scandal doesn’t seem to be going anywhere at the moment and even the secret service seem to be taking an interest in anyone questioning Obama’s nationality with visits being made for security reasons. Reported last week at Mother Jones, more and more people who have raised issue are being visited by the secret service and being left feeling very intimidated.

No matter what side of the fence you sit on this scandal seems set to stay around for a long time to come.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; eligibility; nathandeal; obama; startroll; trollisback; trollsonfr
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1 posted on 01/09/2010 1:34:55 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

I’m betting that after he is out of office, Kenya will announce he was, in fact, born there.


2 posted on 01/09/2010 1:37:34 PM PST by theDentist (fybo; qwerty ergo typo : i type, therefore i misspelll)
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To: Red Steel

You don’t spend as much on legal bills as 0bama has, if you’re not hiding something.


3 posted on 01/09/2010 1:41:07 PM PST by The Sons of Liberty (Pork Eating CRUSADER - FUBO! Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin)
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To: theDentist

I believe that as soon as Obama becomes a liability to the socialist/marxist cause he will be removed via a sudden release of his birth certificate.


4 posted on 01/09/2010 1:47:47 PM PST by Dutch Boy
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To: The Sons of Liberty

I just saw that a guy was arrested for going to Pakistan for Terrorism. Now. I heard that Obama went to Pakistan at a time when Pakistan would not allow Americans to go there with US Passports. Does anybody know if this is true? If it is what would it mean?


5 posted on 01/09/2010 1:48:04 PM PST by screaminsunshine (!!three if by government)
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To: Red Steel
more and more people who have raised issue are being visited by the secret service and being left feeling very intimidated.

What country are we in?

6 posted on 01/09/2010 1:48:17 PM PST by CheneyChick (01/20/2013)
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To: Red Steel

Ping


7 posted on 01/09/2010 1:48:39 PM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid!)
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So much for land of the free and home of the brave.


8 posted on 01/09/2010 1:49:06 PM PST by CheneyChick (01/20/2013)
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To: Red Steel
Reported last week at Mother Jones, more and more people who have raised issue are being visited by the secret service and being left feeling very intimidated.

Out on my porch I would ask the SS if they have a copy of the alleged presidents birth certificate! If they did not have a copy I would kindly ask them to go back to their master and ask him why he refuses to even show his security detail his birth certificate.

9 posted on 01/09/2010 1:49:34 PM PST by missnry (The truth will set you free ... and drive liberals Crazy!)
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To: Red Steel

More fuel for the fire... Heard a radio report, last week, that Leo’s case has succeeded in breaking out some of the Occidental College records that indicate 0bama submitted for and received scholarship funds that are awarded to foreign students. Wonder what nation he claimed for that one?

In any event, he’s clearly ineligible to hold the office he occupies, until he verifies his NBC status.

Cheney should have made this demand in December, but failed.
The DNC should have made this demand in 2008, but failed.
Any of the various State election officials could have likely made this demand, but didn’t.

Now THAT is an example of systemic failure...

It’s time to take back the country.


10 posted on 01/09/2010 1:53:12 PM PST by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. 01-20-2013: Change we can look forward to.)
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To: Red Steel
This is the first time in history that a serving president has been questioned about eligibility by a member of congress.

I can't remember if a member of Congress joined in the challenge, but out 21st president's place of birth was challenged: Chester A Arthur, Eh?

11 posted on 01/09/2010 1:59:23 PM PST by Publius6961 (…he's not America, he's an employee who hasn't risen to minimal expectations.)
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To: Dutch Boy; All; Spunky; ~Kim4VRWC's~; 1035rep; 2ndDivisionVet; 4woodenboats; 5Madman2; ...

Totally agree. Which is why the more lies crop up he spoke to supporters like the Unions, the sooner this could happen and when the smoke screen clears from the hidden details of the healthcare emerge showing how deeply he has/is spendin gus into penury AND when the first sucessful terrorist atack happens we might be relieved of his presence in the Obama House as he is removed by law. As you indicate.


12 posted on 01/09/2010 2:08:52 PM PST by FARS (Be well, be happy and THRIVE! Happy New Year.)
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To: Red Steel

Now Secret Service is visiting people? What kind of story is this?


13 posted on 01/09/2010 2:14:12 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Red Steel
0bamas’ hidden records: Why are these off limits?

1 Certified copy of original birth certificate
2 Columbia University transcripts
3 Columbia thesis paper
4 Campaign donor analysis requested by 7 major watchdog groups
5 Harvard University transcripts
6 Illinois State Senate records
7 Illinois State Senate schedule
8 Law practice client list and billing records/summary
9 Locations and names of all half-siblings and step-mother
10 Medical records (only the one page summary released so far)
11 Occidental College Transcripts
12 Parent’s marriage Certificate
13 Record of baptism
14 Selective Service registration records
15 Schedules for trips outside of the United States before 2007
16 Passport records for all passports
17 Scholarly articles
18 SAT and LSAT test scores
19 Access to his grandmother in Kenya
20 List of all campaign workers that are lobbyists
21 Punahou grade school records
22 Noelani Kindergarten records are oddly missing from the the State of Hawaii Department of Education.
23 Page 11 of Stanley Ann Dunham's divorce decree.

Anyone who cares about their country would be very concerned that a POTUS had hidden every scrap of information of his life that he possibly could.


14 posted on 01/09/2010 2:21:30 PM PST by TigersEye (Tar & feathers! Pitchforks and torches! ... Get some while supplies last.)
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To: screaminsunshine

Hate to hammer you, but you are about a year behind times.

NObam’s trip to Pakistan was part of the questioning in the summer of 2008.

NObama also admits his roommate-off campus- when he was at Columbia was a drug dealer from Pakistan.

People are trying to find out what country’s passport Barry traveled on.


15 posted on 01/09/2010 2:24:12 PM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: Dutch Boy

Or when conservatives take back power in 2010. *wink*

They just insist or they cram through legislation where he will not run in 2012.

If that does not happen then we know a few others are not eligible either.


16 posted on 01/09/2010 2:24:33 PM PST by OafOfOffice (Constitution is not neutral.It was designed to take the government off the backs of people-Douglas)
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To: PubliusMM

0bama submitted for and received scholarship funds that are awarded to foreign students. Wonder what nation he claimed for that one?”

My Money is on Indonesia.


17 posted on 01/09/2010 2:25:19 PM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: Red Steel
I note that Congressman Deal took office on January 3, 2007. And it's interesting that he never voiced any opposition on January 6, 2009.... LOL...

Key Electoral College Dates and Events

January 6, 2009 - Counting Electoral Votes in Congress:
The Congress meets in joint session to count the electoral votes (unless Congress passes a law to change the date).


And..., neither did Vice President Cheney make any official opposition to this, either, much less any unofficial opposition... (not to say anything, either, about President Bush not making a single bit of "noise" about it...).

18 posted on 01/09/2010 2:25:27 PM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: FARS

Too many Americans are more interested in idiocy like the NFL, college basket and the TV clicker. They want to be islamo-sheep like idiots. The TV enriches and empowers our enemies.


19 posted on 01/09/2010 2:25:34 PM PST by Frantzie (TV - sending Americans towards islamic serfdom - Cancel TV service NOW)
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To: FARS
spendin gus

OMG,Poor Gus!

ROFL!!

Sorry, could not help myself.

20 posted on 01/09/2010 2:26:21 PM PST by OafOfOffice (Constitution is not neutral.It was designed to take the government off the backs of people-Douglas)
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To: freekitty

From what I hear this rumor about visits from the SS is just that, a rumor started by a troll or Obot as we call them.

They are desperate to stop any more revelations of Obamas past from getting around.


21 posted on 01/09/2010 2:26:25 PM PST by Eye of Unk (Phobos, kerdos, and doxa, said the Time Traveler. “Fear, self-interest, and honor.”)
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To: screaminsunshine; LucyT; null and void; Fred Nerks
I heard that Obama went to Pakistan at a time when Pakistan would not allow Americans to go there with US Passports

American passport holders could go to Pakistan at that time.

There were warnings against it, but one could go.

Ping

22 posted on 01/09/2010 2:26:31 PM PST by fanfan (Why did they bury Barry's past?)
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To: ridesthemiles

You mean he had a non-USA Passport? I also heard that someone was messing with his passport file and got caught. If he is American how can he get a non-US Passport? And also how can he run for President?


23 posted on 01/09/2010 2:27:20 PM PST by screaminsunshine (!!three if by government)
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To: PubliusMM

Publius, the radio report you heard MAY be the 2009 April Fool’s report that is said to be FALSE. Please ignore if I have misunderstood you comment, but this link should clarify any misunderstandings...

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/occidental.asp

While this story is false, I do believe there that requests for Obama records are legitimate and quite possibly contain embarrassments and crimes.


24 posted on 01/09/2010 2:27:35 PM PST by champie (the federal reserve has started a new image makeover campaign)
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To: Red Steel

Thank goodness for Nathan Deal and the anti-birthers here and on TV (Beck, Ingraham, Boortz, Coulter, Hewitt and a few other idiots) can go to h*ll.


25 posted on 01/09/2010 2:27:35 PM PST by Frantzie (TV - sending Americans towards islamic serfdom - Cancel TV service NOW)
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To: PubliusMM

How can a USA citizen get non-USA rates?


26 posted on 01/09/2010 2:28:51 PM PST by screaminsunshine (!!three if by government)
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To: Red Steel

If he was born a British subject, it doesn’t matter where he was born, including 2 hospitals in Hawaii, he would still be ineligible. Many have noticed he has been given the new identity as POtuS with teleprompter, and he still cannot assume the “new” identity, cannot “take over the reins”, make decisions, or even comment on terrorism or acts of natural disaster. In his mind, Bush somehow caused his incompetence and lack of being President, by handing the job over to him. There is something in his mind that is forcing him not to deliver, and it is also an identity problem.


27 posted on 01/09/2010 2:29:54 PM PST by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: theDentist

Kenya has already done that.


28 posted on 01/09/2010 2:30:06 PM PST by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: screaminsunshine

Now. I heard that Obama went to Pakistan at a time when Pakistan would not allow Americans to go there with US Passports.


Never heard that one before. Sounds like a transposed version of he couldn’t go because the US banned travel which isn’t so. If Pakistan banned travel by via US passports then he had to travel under some other nation.


29 posted on 01/09/2010 2:31:15 PM PST by deport (52 DAYS UNTIL THE TEXAS PRIMARY....... MARCH 2, 2010)
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To: fanfan

Why did he go if he was warned not to go?


30 posted on 01/09/2010 2:31:28 PM PST by screaminsunshine (!!three if by government)
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To: deport

Do you know which one it was? And do you know if he had a Passport?


31 posted on 01/09/2010 2:34:37 PM PST by screaminsunshine (!!three if by government)
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To: freekitty
Possibly, a false one. Mother Jones is hardly a paragon of accuracy in reportage...
32 posted on 01/09/2010 2:34:38 PM PST by Doug Loss
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To: screaminsunshine
Americans are traveling to Pakistan as we speak.

There will always be people who don't heed the warnings.

Why did Barry go?
Good question.

33 posted on 01/09/2010 2:35:08 PM PST by fanfan (Why did they bury Barry's past?)
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To: Frantzie
Beck, Ingraham, Boortz, Coulter, Hewitt and a few other...

They all have a common denominator. It's called the FCC.

34 posted on 01/09/2010 2:35:30 PM PST by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: Dutch Boy

re: release of his birth certificate

Or his death certificate. I have long held he would be disposed of if and when his usefulness to the cabal that’s been fronting him was diminished.

PLEASE, I am not calling for his death or any other bad thing, just saying these people play for keeps and one he has outlived his usefulness they would not hesitate to do away with him.

My guess is he has absolutely no idea how close he is to the edge. They have used his ego and love of self to get him where he is. Sadly, he has probably bought into the idea that he’s some sort of special person when it comes to intelligence or ability. If my hunch is correct he was chosen for how he could be portrayed to the masses. Just another phase in someone’s long range plan to take over the USA. This phase kicked in when they had managed to dumb down a significant portion of the population by making sure the education system was mired in PC and piss-poor instruction.


35 posted on 01/09/2010 2:37:25 PM PST by jwparkerjr
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To: Red Steel

What about allowing a bomber on an American jetliner and not telling the pilots. Was this supposed to be BOzo’s 911? Makes one wonder.


36 posted on 01/09/2010 2:37:37 PM PST by jetson
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To: screaminsunshine
My oldest brother went to Pakistan in the same period as Barry visited, and he was definitely on a U.S. passport. Travel was not prohibited from either side, BUT, arrivals there had to have someone vouching/meeting them who was Pakistani, or foreign service for an embassy.

This entire issue is a game being played to take away attention from the criminality of the DNC in negating the Constitution.

37 posted on 01/09/2010 2:38:22 PM PST by MHGinTN (Obots, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when they are deceived.)
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To: Star Traveler

He has now. It’s not interesting that you would ‘note’ that and back to you LoL!


38 posted on 01/09/2010 2:38:57 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: screaminsunshine

No, only know that it was insinuated that he travel to Pakistan when there was a US ban thus the inference he traveled on another Nation’s passport. However at the time of his alledged travel the US didn’t have a ban on travel. However, there was a Travel Advisory in place issued by the US to warn of possible problems/safety for US travelers.


39 posted on 01/09/2010 2:41:43 PM PST by deport (52 DAYS UNTIL THE TEXAS PRIMARY....... MARCH 2, 2010)
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To: The Sons of Liberty
You don’t spend as much on legal bills as 0bama has

Please list the estimated amount and give a legitimate source. Since you can't, I will not be holding my breath waiting on your answer. But feel free to ignore my request, like EVERY Birther does.
40 posted on 01/09/2010 2:44:48 PM PST by LanaTurnerOverdrive ("I've done a few things in my life I'm not proud of, and the things I am proud of are disgusting.")
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To: deport

That seems like it is exactly the issue vis a vis odumbo’s trip to Pakistan . yes the State Dept had a do not travel but they don’t stop you. BUT many articles I have read from that time say Pakistan was not allowing “ Western” people in.

People can’t crazed over whether he as born in hawaii or not. Likely he was. the REAL issue is what is on his long or vault Birth Certificate that he does not want known.
Some suggest his step father adopted him which could have rescinded his birth status.

Whatever it is obama has spent time and effort hiding it. Not to mention he has scrubbed many documents from his past including some records in Indonesia.

I wish people would focus on what is on the long form odumbo doesn’t want known.


41 posted on 01/09/2010 2:45:40 PM PST by RWGinger
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To: Red Steel
"Reported last week at Mother Jones, more and more people who have raised issue are being visited by the secret service and being left feeling very intimidated."

-- -- --

I call bull5h1t.

42 posted on 01/09/2010 2:48:55 PM PST by HighWheeler
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To: Red Steel

Raising the issue when it makes a difference is one thing, but raising the issue when the certification is over (and he was in a position to challenge it, and had “standing” to do so, at that time) — that smacks of politics more than anything else, to me... :-)


43 posted on 01/09/2010 2:49:51 PM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: LucyT; danamco; Canadian Outrage; little jeremiah

Info ping.


44 posted on 01/09/2010 2:50:22 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: Eye of Unk

Visits by SS doesn’t seem realistic unless threatening language was used.
SEIU I could maybe believe. :)


45 posted on 01/09/2010 2:52:01 PM PST by RedMDer (Recycle Congress in 2010, 2012...)
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To: RWGinger; deport
You were saying ...

People can’t crazed over whether he as born in hawaii or not. Likely he was.

Well, we see the following here....

First, you go to the main State of Hawaii, Department of Health webpage (as shown below in the first link, then you go to the Archived Press Releases (as shown in the second link) and lastly, you go to the actual press release from the State of Hawaii, Department of Health, in PDF format. You'll notice that all the links are the official website each one tracks to the next one, and to the actual press release itself.

State of Hawaii, Department of Health webpage

State of Hawaii, Department of Health, Archived News Releases

State of Hawaii, Department of Health Press Release, July 27, 2009
[viewable as a PDF file of the official State of Hawaii Press Release]


It is the following information, presented here text (not formatted exactly the same way, but all the same words), on that PDF file, with the official State of Hawaii seal on it...


DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH

News Release

LINDA LINGLE
GOVERNOR


CHIYOME LEINAALA FUKINO M.D.
DIRECTOR
Phone: (808) 586-4410
Fax: (808) 586-4444


For Immediate Release: July 27, 2009 -- 09-063

STATEMENT BY HEALTH DIRECTOR CHIYOME FUKINO, M.D.

“I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, Director of the Hawai‛i State Department of Health, have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawai‘i State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawai‘i and is a natural-born American citizen. I have nothing further to add to this statement or my original statement issued in October 2008 over eight months ago.”

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As far as addressing the issue from an official State of Hawaii pronouncement, since they are the holders of the original information, and have certified as a statement from the State of Hawaii (again the original maintainers and certifiers of that information) regarding the birth of Barack Obama -- this seems to wrap it up.

It doesn't get any more original or any more certified than this, as far as state records are concerned.

46 posted on 01/09/2010 2:54:14 PM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Red Steel

Besides all the other suspect and hushed events such as passports being accessed during conventions and the ensuing death of a government employee that accessed passport information of Obama and others while in one of his books Obama writes that he has his birth certificate amongst his personal belongings, one of the more curious things is Obama signing one of his first executive orders to try and seal his records.

Makes you wonder who really controls the puppet strings and their motives (bedsides money and power). Seems like only the military could effect such control and cover ups. Including the secret services. Judicial are just pawns in the game.


47 posted on 01/09/2010 2:57:48 PM PST by Razzz42
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To: Star Traveler
It doesn't get any more original or any more certified than this, as far as state records are concerned.

Yes it does after-birther. Obama can take the tiny teeny little step by showing his real long form birth certificate to a court of law to clear up the matter.

Hawaii is not going to admit that they were hoodwinked if the information is erroneous because a family member lied to the state of Hawaii. LoL! No, they are not going to do that...of course not. The Hawaiian DoH would not bring any suspicion they may have about Obama birth certificate...that would not reflect poorly on them.

48 posted on 01/09/2010 3:04:10 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel
You were saying ...

Yes it does after-birther. Obama can take the tiny teeny little step by showing his real long form birth certificate to a court of law to clear up the matter.

Well spoken as part of the "Obama Derangement syndrome" crowd... :-)

But, why "clear it up" when the State of Hawaii has already cleared it up. There's no need.

49 posted on 01/09/2010 3:05:57 PM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Red Steel; bgill; Whenifhow; malkee; STE=Q; rocco55; thouworm; rxsid; GOPJ; Fred Nerks; ...
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The Barack Obama nationality scandal is refusing to burn itself out and seems to be gathering even more speed with Congressman Nathan Deal questioning the eligibility of Obama to hold the presidency. This is the first time in history that a serving president has been questioned about eligibility by a member of congress.

[Thank you, Red Steel.]

50 posted on 01/09/2010 3:06:48 PM PST by LucyT
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