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4 Supreme Court Cases define "natural born citizen"
The Post & Email ^ | Oct. 18, 2009 | John Charlton

Posted on 01/10/2010 6:03:15 PM PST by STE=Q

Oct. 18, 2009) — The Post & Email has in several articles mentioned that the Supreme Court of the United States has given the definition of what a “natural born citizen” is. Since being a natural born citizen is an objective qualification and requirement of office for the U.S. President, it is important for all U.S. Citizens to understand what this term means.

Let’s cut through all the opinion and speculation, all the “he says”, “she says”, fluff, and go right to the irrefutable, constitutional authority on all terms and phrases mentioned in the U.S. Constitution: the Supreme Court of the United States.

First, let me note that there are 4 such cases which speak of the notion of “natural born citizenship”.

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John Jay's letter to George Washington:

New-York, 25th July, 1787

"Dear Sir,

Permit me to hint whether it would not be WISE and seasonable to provide a STRONG CHECK to the admission of foreigners into the administration of our national government; and to declare expressly that the commander in chief of the American army shall not be given to, nor devolve on any but a Natural Born Citizen. (Emphases Mine)

I remain, dear sir,

Your faithful friend and servant,

John Jay."

John Jay Letters:

http://www.columbia.edu/cu/lweb/digital/jay/

Now the question arises as to what would have been the best "STRONG CHECK" to the admission of foreigners into the administration of the incipient national government of Jay's time?

It would appear that A Natural Born Citizen -- born in country by citizen parents (Plural)-- would be the logical answer to the above question.

STE=Q

1 posted on 01/10/2010 6:03:19 PM PST by STE=Q
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To: STE=Q

A Very Important Article for all to read, especially Glenn Beck and O’Reilly who believe this is no big deal!..(o_O)


2 posted on 01/10/2010 6:09:28 PM PST by True Republican Patriot (May GOD Continue to BLESS Our Great President George W. Bush!!)
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To: STE=Q

This refutes the argument of those who maintain that Vattel doesn’t amount to anything. It is woven into SCOTUS precedent.


3 posted on 01/10/2010 6:12:26 PM PST by Genoa (Luke 12:2)
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To: STE=Q

Just curious: Did the Founding Fathers exempt themselves from this or did they declare themselves US (vs. English) citizens at the conclusion of the Revolutionary War?


4 posted on 01/10/2010 6:18:27 PM PST by GOPsterinMA (Never bring a snowball to a gun fight.)
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To: LucyT; rxsid

ping


5 posted on 01/10/2010 6:24:55 PM PST by bitt (You can’t make a weak man strong by making a strong man weak (Abraham Lincoln))
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To: GOPsterinMA
"Did the Founding Fathers exempt themselves.."

They were the "founders of the feast", so to speak.

There couldn't be any "natural born citizens" of the United States of America, until there WAS a United States of America.

I don't think anyone can deny their devotion and patriotism to this country - before and after it was formed.
6 posted on 01/10/2010 6:27:25 PM PST by FrankR (There will be no jobs until it is profitable for employers to hire people....PERIOD.)
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To: GOPsterinMA

No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President,

Article II, Section 5. I think this answers your question.


7 posted on 01/10/2010 6:29:31 PM PST by ops33 (Senior Master Sergeant, USAF (Retired))
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To: GOPsterinMA

They “GRANDFATHERED THEMSELVES IN:

“No person except a natural born Citizen **or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution** shall be eligible to the Office of President;...”

STE=Q


8 posted on 01/10/2010 6:32:05 PM PST by STE=Q ("It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its government" ... Thomas Paine)
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To: ops33; FrankR

Thank you!!!!!!


9 posted on 01/10/2010 6:32:24 PM PST by GOPsterinMA (Never bring a snowball to a gun fight.)
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To: GOPsterinMA
There is no exemption in the Constitution.

The issue was dealt with thusly:

No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President'

I have never heard if the first seven Prsidents (Martin Van Buren, #8, being the first to be born a US citizen) specifically declared US Citizenship.

10 posted on 01/10/2010 6:33:58 PM PST by Ready4Freddy ("It's not the number of burnt cars that worries me. It's the fact that everyone finds this normal..")
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PING!

STE=Q


11 posted on 01/10/2010 6:37:00 PM PST by STE=Q ("It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its government" ... Thomas Paine)
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To: STE=Q

Nice. Maybe those cowards at SCOTUS will take it up soon. I know Leo and Pidgeon are trying DC Circuit through quo warranto.


12 posted on 01/10/2010 6:38:44 PM PST by Frantzie (TV - sending Americans towards islamic serfdom - Cancel TV service NOW)
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To: STE=Q

Thank you!


13 posted on 01/10/2010 6:39:06 PM PST by GOPsterinMA (Never bring a snowball to a gun fight.)
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To: GOPsterinMA

A2S1C5:

No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President;

Justice Joseph Story, also founder of Harvard Law School, in his works of Volume 3, Section 1472-73 of ‘The Founders Constitution: Commentaries on the Constitution’ originally published in 1833 writes of the qualifications of those who wish to attain election into the executive branch as laid out in A2 S1 C5 of the constitution:

§ 1472. Considering the nature of the duties, the extent of the information, and the solid wisdom and experience required in the executive department, no one can reasonably doubt the propriety of some qualification of age. That, which has been selected, is the middle age of life, by which period the character and talents of individuals are generally known, and fully developed; and opportunities have usually been afforded for public service, and for experience in the public councils. The faculties of the mind, if they have not then attained to their highest maturity, are in full vigor, and hastening towards their ripest state. The judgment, acting upon large materials, has, by that time, attained a solid cast; and the principles, which form the character, and the integrity, which gives lustre to the virtues of life, must then, if ever, have acquired public confidence and approbation.

§ 1473. It is indispensable, too, that the president should be a natural born citizen of the United States; or a citizen at the adoption of the constitution, and for fourteen years before his election. This permission of a naturalized citizen to become president is an exception from the great fundamental policy of all governments, to exclude foreign influence from their executive councils and duties. It was doubtless introduced (for it has now become by lapse of time merely nominal, and will soon become wholly extinct) out of respect to those distinguished revolutionary patriots, who were born in a foreign land, and yet had entitled themselves to high honors in their adopted country. A positive exclusion of them from the office would have been unjust to their merits, and painful to their sensibilities. But the general propriety of the exclusion of foreigners, in common cases, will scarcely be doubted by any sound statesman. It cuts off all chances for ambitious foreigners, who might otherwise be intriguing for the office; and interposes a barrier against those corrupt interferences of foreign governments in executive elections, which have inflicted the most serious evils upon the elective monarchies of Europe.

http://constitutionallyspeaking.wordpress.com/2009/08/21/constitutional-nuclear-bomb-blasts-obamas-eligibilty-to-smithereens/


14 posted on 01/10/2010 6:40:11 PM PST by patlin (1st SCOTUS of USA: "Human life, from its commencement to its close, is protected by the common law.")
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To: GOPsterinMA

Grandfathered.


15 posted on 01/10/2010 6:41:59 PM PST by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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To: RobbyS

Got it, thank you!


16 posted on 01/10/2010 6:44:53 PM PST by GOPsterinMA (Never bring a snowball to a gun fight.)
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To: STE=Q
I have a shout out for the deniers.

Where's the BC?


Till yer boyee answers that, stuff the frog up!

17 posted on 01/10/2010 6:45:01 PM PST by rawcatslyentist (Jeremiah 50:31 Behold, I am against you," O " you most proud, said the said the Lord GOD of hosts)
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To: Genoa; All
This refutes the argument of those who maintain that Vattel doesn’t amount to anything. It is woven into SCOTUS precedent.

FROM THE ARTICLE:

"Finally it should be noted, that to define a term is to indicate the category or class of things which it signifies. In this sense, the Supreme Court of the United States has never applied the term 'natural born citizen' to any other category than 'those born in the country of parents who are citizens thereof'."

STE=Q

18 posted on 01/10/2010 6:49:21 PM PST by STE=Q ("It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its government" ... Thomas Paine)
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4 (four) Supreme Court Cases define "natural born citizen"

[Thanks STE=Q, and bitt.]

19 posted on 01/10/2010 6:49:23 PM PST by LucyT
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To: Genoa

What’s interesting to me is the heavy reliance on the foreign Vattel by the SCOTUS when only recently Americans were screeching about the Supreme Court justices even acknowledging the merest whiffs of foreign law.


20 posted on 01/10/2010 6:49:57 PM PST by kittykat77
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