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To: AuH2ORepublican
If, however, he was born in Hawaii, then, irrespective of what Lolo Soetero may have done in Indonesia, Barack Obama would have been a U.S. citizen at birth.

Unless he claimed foreign citizenship in order to obtain a scholarship, in which case he would have forfeited his US Citizenship.

Admissions and Financial aid records would shed light on this facet of the discussion.

Maybe someone can help me out here, (I still have my original draft card somewhere, and I remember the AuH2O bumper stickers), but is failure to register for Selective Service a felony? If so, that raises a few questions, too.

Early on, Obama allegedly would not release his original records to avoid "embarassment". The question is, just how deep would that run?

Is the birth father listed as other than B.O. Sr?, Is his mother listed as "unwed", or words to that effect?, Or was the BC issued by a foreign government and thus he'd be subject to the embarassment of being disqualified after a very slick campaign?

We don't know,

One good thing has come of all this, and that is the intrusion of doubt into the matrix of Hope and Change. Those who will take the time to think critically are no longer buying Obama's blather at face value, even many of those who supported him.

163 posted on 01/12/2010 9:25:37 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

I think it was Debbie Schlussel (sp?) that wrote extensively on Obama’s Selective Service registration and showed that the application submitted by Obama was most likely a fraud. And, yes, not registering is a felony.

If Obama claimed to be a foreigner in financial aid or scholarship applications then that’s probably another felony right there. However, unless he freely and intentionally renounced his U.S. citizenship (which I can’t imagine was the case, since he kept living in the U.S. and presumably dud not register as a resident alien, not to mention the fact that he purported to be a citizen by registering to vote and running for office, it would be very unlikely that courts would declare him to have renounced his citizenship. I think that if he was born in Hawaii then he’s still a citizen today, but that if he was born abroad then he likely has never been a U.S. citizen (unless he was naturalized at some point and there exists a conspiracy of absurd proportions).

If Obama was born in Hawaii, what could his long-form birth certificate say that makes him refuse to provide it? I have no idea, since even if it said that his real father was Malcolm X or his birthname was Charles Manson Dunham it wouldn’t be as bad as having people speculate that he’s not even a U.S. citizen.

While we’re considering conspiracy theories, we should keep in mind that if Obama was born in Kenya but his biological father was not Obama, Sr. but a U.S. citizen, then he would be a U.S. citizen at birth. Obama’s past is so unclear that such possibility cannot be ignored.

164 posted on 01/13/2010 5:24:44 AM PST by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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