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New Payroll Tax About to Be Hiked for Second Time
American Spectator ^ | 1.11.10 @ 11:04AM | By Philip Klein

Posted on 01/11/2010 10:12:35 AM PST by Behind Liberal Lines

the new Medicare payroll tax hasn't even become law yet, and it's already on its way to being hiked for the second time. The tax was set at 0.5 percent in the orginal Senate bill, and then got raised to 0.9 percent in Harry Reid's final version that passed the Senate. And now the NYT tells us, its going to rise once again.

This would actually follow the historical pattern of payroll taxes. The Social Security tax has been raised 20 times since first being implemented in 1935, from 1 percent to 6.2 percent, while the Medicare tax has gone up seven times since 1966, from .35 percent to 1.45 percent. Taking into account that employers must match the payroll tax contributions of their employees, the combined tax went from 2 percent when introduced in 1935, to 15.3 percent today.

During the campaign, Obama introduced the idea of a payroll tax on higher income earners -- but it was only to apply to those making over $250,000, and the point was to extend the life of Social Security. Not only does the new payroll tax apply to individuals earning more than $200,000, it imposes a marriage penalty by applying to couples with combined income of $250, 000 or more. Furthermore, instead of using the money to extend the solvency of Social Security, it will be funneled into a new entitlement program. Thus, revenue generated is no longer available to plug the gap in entitlements.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: class; healthcare; increase; middle; obamacare; tax

1 posted on 01/11/2010 10:12:36 AM PST by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

They are completely INSANE! This will further depress economic activity and punish hard work. Damn Marxists are destroying this country!


2 posted on 01/11/2010 10:17:41 AM PST by ezfindit (ConservativeDatingSite.com - The Right Place for Conservative Singles)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

They will keep shoving this crap down our throats until there is open revolt.


3 posted on 01/11/2010 10:19:10 AM PST by ItsForTheChildren
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

I noticed Friday my paycheck was a couple of dollars less. I thought Obama promised not to raise taxes on those of us making under $250K. I am WAY under that amount. Joe Wilson was right.


4 posted on 01/11/2010 10:21:09 AM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: Behind Liberal Lines; Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; ...

The list, ping


5 posted on 01/11/2010 10:23:02 AM PST by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Time for some Tea Party and RNC types to get the message out to the people - 39% top rate + 15% social security + 6% medicare = 60% tax rate...that kills jobs.


6 posted on 01/11/2010 11:00:25 AM PST by q_an_a
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To: ilovesarah2012

I started my civil disobedience with last weeks paycheck. Hubby left his alone and we’ll pay next year, but they’ll get what’s due on tax day and not a day before.


7 posted on 01/11/2010 11:08:02 AM PST by Grumpybutt
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To: ilovesarah2012

I explained that to a fellow co-worker.

I said “that’s called a ‘tax cut’ when democrats are in power”.
“If you pay taxes, your withholding is cut... and if you don’t pay taxes, you get money back.”


8 posted on 01/11/2010 11:11:00 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: Grumpybutt
I started my civil disobedience with last weeks paycheck.

If you under withhold too much, you can be charged a penalty.

9 posted on 01/11/2010 11:58:38 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
My last payday was Dec 31st. Perfect timing. The next one restarts the social security withholding. Ouch. Smaller paychecks until September when the max social security limit is reached. There is no cap on medicare. It is assessed against the total gross income.
10 posted on 01/11/2010 12:26:01 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

As a life-long bookkeeper- this is a nightmare to perform payroll tasks.

If I am preparing a paycheck for an employee-—I NEVER have any information about the spouse’s income. Now we have “spouses’ which are not even opposite sex.

If there is to be some sort of sur-tax on the combined income of 2 married persons- are their respective employers supposed to make sure that they combine all their separate information ? The employer is required to match all the FICA & Medicare money deducted.

I see this as a complete invasion of privacy. It will be a total nightmare- with employers getting fined for not correctly preparing a payroll.

No wonder no one wants to put a toe into the water of hiring any new employees.


11 posted on 01/11/2010 12:52:55 PM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: ilovesarah2012
He didn't raise your taxes- he “fixed the Bush tax code mistakes that rewarded the rich disproportionately”

mm mm mmmm

12 posted on 01/11/2010 2:13:15 PM PST by silverleaf
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To: ridesthemiles
We already have the "marriage penalty". A spouse making $30K and the other making $150K with different employers have a nightmare. The $30K spouse needs to be paying taxes at the top marginal rate of the $150K spouse or things turn to crap when it is time to file. The $150K spouse is forced to take lots of extra out to compensate for the insufficient withholding of the $30K spouse. The net summation pushes the household gross into a higher marginal bracket. Isn't that punitive enough for these commie bastards? They want even more in the form of a surtax? If the $30K spouse is paying at the actual proper marginal rate, the paycheck is so decimated that there seems little reason to continue working for so little net payback.
13 posted on 01/11/2010 3:47:20 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: q_an_a

While I agree that raising taxes kills jobs, I question your figures. Self-employed individuals do not get taxed on the “employer” portion of the 15% social security tax. And medicare is not 6%, it is 1.45%. The top tax rate of 39% does not apply to entire income, the tax tables are tiered rates. Before you use a 60% tax burden in an argument with a liberal, perhaps brushing up on the with-holding tax calculations would be beneficial.


14 posted on 01/11/2010 4:41:14 PM PST by tfbcowinafog
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To: tfbcowinafog

I stand corrected - I was using a comment by Bob Brinker on Money Talk and forgot that part of his 6% number was state taxes. Now the IRS does have this data “The self-employment tax rate is 15.3%. The rate consists of two parts: 12.4% for social security (old-age, survivors, and disability insurance) and 2.9% for Medicare (hospital insurance).” This plus if you are in the Top bracket - 140K (?) then it is now 39% and we are at 54.3% That seems like a lot to me - how about you?


15 posted on 01/12/2010 7:23:14 AM PST by q_an_a
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To: q_an_a

Agreed, it’s a lot. I was self employed for ten years. Writing a five figure quarterly check to the federal pig gave me migraines. And state tax was 6% at the time. A taxpayer filing single with no exemptions and making a 6 figure income or more, well, those migraines must be tenfold.


16 posted on 01/12/2010 6:22:13 PM PST by tfbcowinafog
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