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China: Missile Defense System Test Successful
Time Magazine ^ | Monday, Jan. 11, 2010 | AP / CHRISTOPHER BODEEN

Posted on 01/11/2010 6:59:30 PM PST by shader

BEIJING) — China announced that its military intercepted a missile in mid-flight Monday in a test of new technology that comes amid heightened tensions over Taiwan and increased willingness by the Asian giant to show off its advanced military capabilities. The official Xinhua News Agency reported late Monday that "ground-based midcourse missile interception technology" was tested within Chinese territory. "We did not receive prior notification of the launch," Maj. Maureen Schumann, a Pentagon spokeswoman, said. "We detected two geographically separated missile launch events with an exo-atmospheric collision also being observed by space-based sensors. We are requesting information from China regarding the purpose for conducting this interception as well as China's intentions and plans to pursue future types of intercepts."

(Excerpt) Read more at time.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: abm; airdefense; armsbuildup; bhoasia; china; chinamissile; chinesemilitary; missiledefense

1 posted on 01/11/2010 6:59:34 PM PST by shader
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To: shader

It’s a good thing that our great business, political and academic leaders made sure that so many Chinese engineers were educated in our universities and hired by our corporations, isn’t it.


2 posted on 01/11/2010 7:02:43 PM PST by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-' 96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote.)
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To: shader

China and the “Former” Soviet Union are building up their militaries and missile defenses, while we are dismantling them.


3 posted on 01/11/2010 7:04:26 PM PST by Thunder90 (Fighting for truth and the American way... http://citizensfortruthandtheamericanway.blogspot.com/)
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To: familyop; shader
RE :”It’s a good thing that our great business, political and academic leaders made sure that so many Chinese engineers were educated in our universities and hired by our corporations, isn’t it.

Completely different culture than Americans. In China education is social status. In America the use of credit, flashy cars and sales jobs like stock brokers and real estate agents are social status. If doesnt work out, vote for the biggest liar.

Say "Where's mine ?"

4 posted on 01/11/2010 7:11:25 PM PST by sickoflibs ( "It's not the taxes, the redistribution is spending you demand stupid")
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To: shader

simple solution, use stealth technology to make missles that can’t be intercepted.


5 posted on 01/11/2010 7:19:01 PM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied, the economy died)
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To: shader

Ain’t it grand that the Clintons gave them the technology to accomplish such great things?


6 posted on 01/11/2010 7:25:49 PM PST by Flint
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To: sickoflibs
"In America the use of credit, flashy cars and sales jobs like stock brokers and real estate agents are social status."

But in the USA, a person has to have at least a bachelor's degree in women's studies, or something like that, and parents working for free traitors or government, to enjoy such high society pursuits. How could such loyal leaders maintain slavery, if many men in the USA were allowed to have fathers and go for engineering educations? ...and without lots of social programs and anti-small-business zoning regulations to misinform and break families, and stop them from producing? Those families would otherwise be potential domestic competition, you know.

Oh, well. The defaults on the high costs of all of that will come anyway, and so will the chance for a new leadership.


7 posted on 01/11/2010 7:27:31 PM PST by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-' 96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote.)
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To: shader

American missile guidance system technology at work.


8 posted on 01/11/2010 7:45:20 PM PST by Will88
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To: familyop

In China the two parent family is promoted. So is savings. It doesnt have our freedoms naturally, but it is avoiding our insanity and breakdown.

Chinese are much more conservative than Americans, yes, than Republicans!


9 posted on 01/11/2010 7:48:51 PM PST by sickoflibs ( "It's not the taxes, the redistribution is spending you demand stupid")
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Beijing Air Defense.The remains of two belts of HQ-2 sites (The new “Great wall”) left over from the cold war remain active.The defenses were modernized with S-300PMU SAMs in the 1990s.
10 posted on 01/11/2010 8:01:28 PM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("I have learned to use the word "impossible" with the greatest caution."-Dr.Werner Von Braun)
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To: shader

Waiting for some popular liberal to loudly denounce the Chinese anti-missile test as “not being possible” ...


11 posted on 01/11/2010 8:03:06 PM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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12 posted on 01/11/2010 8:11:44 PM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("I have learned to use the word "impossible" with the greatest caution."-Dr.Werner Von Braun)
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To: sonofstrangelove

Missile defense is pointless against the U.S or Russia. But 40-50 missile interceptors does provide a highly effective shield against Japan and India.


13 posted on 01/11/2010 8:28:08 PM PST by artaxerces
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To: TexasFreeper2009

You can’t have a rocket blasting off into space in a span of a couple of minutes with a nuke, designed to be “stealthy”.

The Chinese are going to be a dangerous threat that the Soviets could have never been.


14 posted on 01/11/2010 8:31:48 PM PST by James C. Bennett
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To: artaxerces

I agree. Chinese ABM frightens the Russians.


15 posted on 01/11/2010 8:33:46 PM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("I have learned to use the word "impossible" with the greatest caution."-Dr.Werner Von Braun)
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To: shader

Bump!


16 posted on 01/11/2010 8:54:26 PM PST by rdl6989 (January 20, 2013 The end of an error.)
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To: shader

Of course it was successful. We gave them all that good technology during the Clinton years.


17 posted on 01/11/2010 9:11:13 PM PST by TheThinker ( Reverend Wright obviously cheered on 9/11. Did Obama?)
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To: sickoflibs
"In China the two parent family is promoted. So is savings. It doesnt have our freedoms naturally, but it is avoiding our insanity and breakdown.

Chinese are much more conservative than Americans, yes, than Republicans!
"

Agreed. I've lived with them in upperclass-graduate-foreign student dorms, and that's pretty much what I saw (late 1980s). ...did a little language tutoring, too (English student). They kept trying to pair me up with one young woman who was shorter than the rest (hardly over 4' tall). I'm a bit of a tall man, so they were probably trying to be funny (monster American barbarian and all of that). Every time that they would walk by as a group, she would stare at me, her head wagging at little, with a goofy grin on her face. ...and a bumper crop of zits. The rest of them would laugh and urge her over to me.

I must say that she was cute, and a free, quiet dinner at my place (dating, of sorts--no sex or even talk of it, of course) would have been nice. But I couldn't do that, you know. They were likeable, though--all of them.

Then I went to Ft. Leonard Wood, somewhat older than most, for 13 weeks. Life is sometimes weird...but funny.


18 posted on 01/11/2010 9:12:24 PM PST by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-' 96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote.)
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To: sickoflibs

And most of them don’t have as much pride as we do. That is the scariest part of it all.

China Ends U.S.’s Reign as Largest Auto Market (Update2)
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aE.x_r_l9NZE
[It’s from Bloomberg, so don’t post any content from it here.]


19 posted on 01/11/2010 9:24:41 PM PST by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-' 96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote.)
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To: shader

They are planning for the day when they can hit us and knock down our missiles. There is a Pearl Harbor of unimaginable consequences in the future, if we fail to keep pace.


20 posted on 01/11/2010 9:58:26 PM PST by Williams (It's the policies, stupid)
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To: Flint

This is ovewhelmingly Russian technology in this case.

In general, they mostly have adapted Russian technology, with quite a bit of French technology and some Israeli technology in a few critical areas.

The idea were it not for the Clintons the Chinese would be armed with rocks and pointed sticks is fairly absurd.


21 posted on 01/11/2010 10:04:56 PM PST by Strategerist
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To: TexasFreeper2009
simple solution, use stealth technology to make missles that can’t be intercepted.
All ballistic missles generate considerable heat from the simple friction of the atmosphere at the incredibly high speeds they're traveling - some going up, and even more re-entering the atmosphere. That's why ABM terminal seekers are infrared. There's really no way to make this heating magically go away or hide it, especially when the surroundings of the missile are so cold; the missile or re-entry vehicles are just too hot.
22 posted on 01/11/2010 10:08:26 PM PST by Strategerist
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To: TexasFreeper2009
simple solution, use stealth technology to make missles that can’t be intercepted.
All ballistic missles generate considerable heat from the simple friction of the atmosphere at the incredibly high speeds they're traveling - some going up, and even more re-entering the atmosphere. That's why ABM terminal seekers are infrared. There's really no way to make this heating magically go away or hide it, especially when the surroundings of the missile are so cold; the missile or re-entry vehicles are just too hot.
23 posted on 01/11/2010 10:08:38 PM PST by Strategerist
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To: shader

Thanks Bill Clinton and LORAL for that guidance technology.


24 posted on 01/11/2010 10:37:33 PM PST by hattend (Once we had Reagan, Johnny Cash and Bob Hope. Now we have Obama, no Cash and no Hope)
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To: sickoflibs
In China the two parent family is promoted. So is savings. It doesnt have our freedoms naturally, but it is avoiding our insanity and breakdown. Chinese are much more conservative than Americans, yes, than Republicans!

"Conservative" of what? If you are a conservative of family tradition, then yes, one could argue that China conserves family tradition better than America...maybe...assuming you ignore little things like communist revolutions.... But what does it mean to be a "conservative" in America? For most people it means we are "conserving" the principles of the American founding--i.e., LIBERTY. So the fact that you admitted in your first paragraph that China DOESN'T HAVE FREEDOM, no American conservative should be particularly interested in whatever cheap crap they are "conserving". Got it?
25 posted on 01/11/2010 11:02:01 PM PST by newguy357
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To: Flint

“Ain’t it grand that the Clintons gave them the technology to accomplish such great things?”

That and the PLA’s Super 863 Project.


26 posted on 01/12/2010 3:51:00 AM PST by PIF
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To: sonofstrangelove

They look pretty worried about some one to their north west... and not so worried about the east. Interesting.


27 posted on 01/12/2010 3:53:19 AM PST by PIF
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To: newguy357
RE :”But what does it mean to be a “conservative” in America? For most people it means we are “conserving” the principles of the American founding—i.e., LIBERTY.

??? You are dreaming. Not in this country. In this country everyone has his hand out to the government, liberal and conservative alike. They just complain when it doesnt work or they think someone else is benefiting more than them. But we have democratic socialism. Under Bush it was spending and government growth will be paid for by tax cuts. Now we have O.

I was talking about conservative values like two parent families, work, savings, taking care of your parents, producing rather than consuming (my grandparents values). Yes, we have MTV and an entitlement society as values making believe it's freedom.

GET IT???

28 posted on 01/12/2010 5:02:04 AM PST by sickoflibs ( "It's not the taxes, the redistribution is spending you demand stupid")
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To: PIF

Nope, Tianjin is to the south east of Beijing, there are economic zones and high speed railways between the two cities, it’s not convenient for them to deploy missiles there


29 posted on 01/12/2010 5:02:44 AM PST by shader
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To: familyop

Do you attend Free Day Away?


30 posted on 01/12/2010 5:23:48 AM PST by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: demshateGod
"Do you attend Free Day Away?"

I had to look that up. There was no such program for initial trainees of my MOS (bravo type) that I knew of, while I was there (long time ago, see tagline). There were religious services for about an hour (if I remember correctly) each Sunday, for those who wanted to attend. Trainees marched each way in formation. There were no passes for the 13 weeks (OSUT), except for the one pass of about a day and a half between phases 1 and 2. I was over 30 then, BTW. ...kinda proud of that.


31 posted on 01/12/2010 5:42:31 AM PST by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-' 96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote.)
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To: shader

I was thinking more on the lines of the USSR - they had several large scale border battles with hevy losses on both sides in that time period.


32 posted on 01/12/2010 8:11:10 AM PST by PIF
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To: sickoflibs

“Completely different culture than Americans. In China education is social status”

Which is why it is a good thing that Stephen Hawking isn’t in America. He would have been euthanized while in China he’s a god.


33 posted on 01/12/2010 10:11:53 AM PST by Niuhuru (The Internet is the digital AIDS; adapting and successfully destroying the MSM host.)
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To: sickoflibs

Ok, then please do everyone a favor and move to your bastion of conservatism in communist China, genius.


34 posted on 01/12/2010 3:26:55 PM PST by newguy357
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To: newguy357

I would miss you and your conservative president


35 posted on 01/12/2010 5:56:33 PM PST by sickoflibs ( "It's not the taxes, the redistribution is spending you demand stupid")
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To: PIF

Maybe its a possible trajectory of a Russian or U.S. missile warhead. that is the reason they are concetrating in that area


36 posted on 01/12/2010 6:05:03 PM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("I have learned to use the word "impossible" with the greatest caution."-Dr.Werner Von Braun)
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To: PIF

Those are the remains of two belts of HQ-2 sites (The new “Great wall”) left over from the cold war remain active which now have S-300 missiles.


37 posted on 01/13/2010 1:06:49 AM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("I have learned to use the word "impossible" with the greatest caution."-Dr.Werner Von Braun)
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To: sonofstrangelove

S-300 missiles — which are useless against incoming ICBMS.

Only the Russians have effective defenses against mass ICBM attacks and have been uprgading those systems since the mid-60s when they went operational. Nixon knew the Anti-ICBM Treaty was a farse when he signed it - good for political points at home and useful to stop real manned space flight endevours using nuclear power.

S300-S400 are the export models (and descended from) another secret not exported system used for defense against mass ICBM attacks.


38 posted on 01/13/2010 3:50:00 AM PST by PIF
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To: PIF

The S-300 is a series of Russian long range surface-to-air missile systems produced by NPO Almaz, all based on the initial S-300P version. The S-300 system was developed to defend against aircraft and cruise missiles for the Soviet Air Defence Forces. Subsequent variations were developed to intercept ballistic missiles.

http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/russia/airdef/s-300v.htm


39 posted on 01/13/2010 10:13:38 PM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("I have learned to use the word "impossible" with the greatest caution."-Dr.Werner Von Braun)
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To: sonofstrangelove

http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/russia/airdef/s-300pmu.htm


40 posted on 01/13/2010 10:16:38 PM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("I have learned to use the word "impossible" with the greatest caution."-Dr.Werner Von Braun)
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To: PIF

http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/russia/airdef/s-300pmu.htm


41 posted on 01/13/2010 10:17:03 PM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("I have learned to use the word "impossible" with the greatest caution."-Dr.Werner Von Braun)
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