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President Obama Signs Executive Order Establishing Council of Governors
Executive Order ^ | January 11, 2010

Posted on 01/11/2010 7:45:15 PM PST by Pantera

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To: Travis McGee

“Probably a monetary collapse or crisis on an Argentina 2002 scale. That’s my guess.”

Not a bad guess.. I believe we discussed Argentina a couple of weeks ago.

A friend of mine in KL, Malaysia e mailed me six months ago that most Asian financiers believe Obama is out to destroy the dollar.


151 posted on 01/12/2010 5:22:45 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINO's!)
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To: raybbr

“But, how will it look politically? He won’t be able to claim the ever important bipartisanship. “

You mean like Obamacare? ;-)


152 posted on 01/12/2010 5:24:18 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINO's!)
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To: mkjessup

Wonder who pulled the puppet string on this one?


153 posted on 01/12/2010 5:25:48 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINO's!)
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To: hinckley buzzard
This is a compromising of the very structure of our federal republic.

Yes, this is what this implies.

If they subjugate the governors legally then they can countermand anything a governor does, essentially making it impossible for a state to nullify a fed order.

At the same time if they are creating parallel structures of command and control to the ones that already exist then at some point the feds can shut down the existing govt entities and put its own fully-controlled and extra-constitutional infrastructure in to full power.

This is very, very frightening. Smart but completely corrupt.

We need to learn more about this and any other action to set up parallel control structures and state-nullifying measures.

154 posted on 01/12/2010 5:33:26 AM PST by paulycy (The Liberals' Racial DOUBLE-STANDARDS are HATE CRIMES.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker
... most Asian financiers believe Obama is out to destroy the dollar.

Many Americans came to that conclusion over a year ago.

155 posted on 01/12/2010 5:34:28 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Humidston
collecting contact information of fellow FReepers

We'll need a trustworthy and secure method to do this.

It'll take work and serious thought for just how to do it while keeping the privacy of the FReepers intact and somehow not include the trolls...

156 posted on 01/12/2010 5:37:13 AM PST by paulycy (The Liberals' Racial DOUBLE-STANDARDS are HATE CRIMES.)
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To: Travis McGee

“a monetary collapse or crisis”

More like Venezuela right now. Devalued currency and a 2 tier exchange rate. already panicked buying going on.

Just my take on it.


157 posted on 01/12/2010 5:38:55 AM PST by dynachrome (Barack Hussein Obama yunikku khinaaziir!)
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To: raybbr
But, how will it look politically? He won't be able to claim the ever important bipartisanship.

He gave that up long ago. It isn't even much of a pretense anymore. He is in full single-party dictator mode and he doesn't much care who knows it. He might even want people to start noticing just how much power he has amassed so quickly.

158 posted on 01/12/2010 5:39:58 AM PST by paulycy (The Liberals' Racial DOUBLE-STANDARDS are HATE CRIMES.)
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To: DuncanWaring

“Many Americans came to that conclusion over a year ago. “

Myself included. The point being is Obama is not fooling anyone around the world.


159 posted on 01/12/2010 5:42:01 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINO's!)
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To: stephenjohnbanker; All
Wonder who pulled the puppet string on this one?

I suspect it was 0bama's boss:
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160 posted on 01/12/2010 5:48:16 AM PST by mkjessup (Harry Reid? Byrd Dry-Cleaning on Line One ... Your sheets are ready !!!!)
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To: ASOC
I gotta wonder what brought this on.

As it dawns on the Obamunist regime that it's starting to slip away from them, they will act. Precipitously, dangerously, murderously. Remember who we're dealing with. Remember the pedigree of their ideas. For them, mass murder is merely another instrument of state policy.

161 posted on 01/12/2010 5:48:24 AM PST by Noumenon ("Upon what meat doth this our Caesar feed, that he has grown so great?" - Julius Caesar)
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To: mkjessup

LOL!


162 posted on 01/12/2010 5:51:07 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINO's!)
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To: Pantera

And then there is Interpol...hmmmm.


163 posted on 01/12/2010 5:51:15 AM PST by homegroan (ZQczar...happily addicted to the Refresh Button.....)
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To: dynachrome

I wouldn’t rule it out, for sure. Or possibly an “internal domestic dollar” and and “overseas dollar.”


164 posted on 01/12/2010 5:51:25 AM PST by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: dynachrome

LOL!


165 posted on 01/12/2010 5:52:26 AM PST by homegroan (ZQczar...happily addicted to the Refresh Button.....)
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To: dynachrome

“More like Venezuela right now. Devalued currency and a 2 tier exchange rate. already panicked buying going on.”

Most go after the black market rate.


166 posted on 01/12/2010 5:52:57 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINO's!)
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To: null and void
The Council shall consist of 10 State Governors appointed bythe President (Members), of whom no more than five shall be ofthe same political party.

Hmmmmm....5 democrats and 5 RINO's???

167 posted on 01/12/2010 5:55:04 AM PST by azishot
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To: dynachrome

My LOL was directed at your “and WTF”...just what I think everytime I see one of these ‘orders’...

WTF needs to be a ping list.


168 posted on 01/12/2010 5:56:00 AM PST by homegroan (ZQczar...happily addicted to the Refresh Button.....)
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To: Pantera

One purpose is to end federalism altogether. Replace federal government with national government in principle, attempting to nullify the Tenth Amendment.


169 posted on 01/12/2010 5:59:20 AM PST by John Leland 1789 (But then, I'm accused of just being a troll, so . . . .)
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To: thecabal
The Emperor has disbanded the Senate. The last vestiges of the Old Republic have been swept away. The regional governors will rule with an iron fist. But Lord eVader knows that not everyone is going to go quietly with a whimper. I would think?
170 posted on 01/12/2010 6:01:28 AM PST by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards,com)
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To: John Leland 1789

This is bad-very very bad.

Strange how this came out the day after the ‘union meetings’.


171 posted on 01/12/2010 6:02:00 AM PST by homegroan (ZQczar...happily addicted to the Refresh Button.....)
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To: Cicero

“No. This cannot be permitted.”


Any state governors and state legislatures that still believe in federalism need to strongly resist this; not cooperate; don’t attend; act as if it doesn’t exist.


172 posted on 01/12/2010 6:02:23 AM PST by John Leland 1789 (But then, I'm accused of just being a troll, so . . . .)
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To: Pantera

I am hoping Sarah Palin is willing to voice her views on this, either on her website, Facebook or the remote possibility of it on FOX.

And I wonder what Glenn Beck thinks of this...


173 posted on 01/12/2010 6:02:35 AM PST by Eye of Unk (Phobos, kerdos, and doxa, said the Time Traveler. “Fear, self-interest, and honor.”)
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To: Pantera
Barry can take this EO and wipe his butt with it. It's that legal.

An EO only effects departments in the Executive Branch of the gubmint,who work for the Executive, the POTUS. Unless said EO is further acted upon by Congress and made into a law.

Even then the 'Executive', the POTUS, has no authority over any state governor -- nada, zip, zilch, zero. He can't 'appoint' a council, and then said council of ten as in this case, has no authority over the other forty.

So for all intents and purposes he may have well issued an EO on:

A Council of Federal Legislators
or a
Council of Federal Judges
This *thing* is meaningless and just a tad bit Unconstitutional. So I hope they print it on soft paper for use in all the rest rooms.

I want to know who took all of Barry's tests in college and law school because this moron sure didn't!

174 posted on 01/12/2010 6:11:15 AM PST by Condor51 (The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits [A. Einstein])
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To: hinckley buzzard

“It will be coordinated at the state level, under the authority of DHS...”

I see. There are no enemy frontlines or enemy camps. So General Doofus of DHS will march his merry band of mass murderers through places like Huntington Beach and kill the children of a few dozen Marine families, and what will Gen. Doofus do when the 1st MarDiv pours out of Camp Pendleton and fighter squadrons from the 3rd MAW are bombing his position? How will Gen. Doofus react when he calls his CP and finds it in flames and his staff hanging from trees?

And let’s also assume that the Georgia National Guard will attack...how about Florida? And the Florida National Guard will stand down and watch their families and friends murdered. Of course...


175 posted on 01/12/2010 6:14:59 AM PST by sergeantdave
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To: Pantera
The key concept is

“...integration of State and Federal military activities in the United States”.

The stupidest thing Obama ever disclosed was his junvenile wet-dream about the creation of a “defense force” as equally funded as the military. It will never happen because no one would permit it, and the money does not exist to fund it.

This is his fallback strategy. He wants control of the National Guard troops in every state to be able to use them for his own ends without having to worry about those pesky Governors. His is insane, drinking his own kool-aid if he thinks this will come to pass.

FUBO

176 posted on 01/12/2010 6:16:02 AM PST by Gabrial (ObamaCare: The efficiency of the Post Office, the compassion of the IRS, the costs of the Pentagon)
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To: Pantera

I guess it does make it seems as though he is doing something.


177 posted on 01/12/2010 6:17:43 AM PST by Dustbunny ("Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them. " Ronald Reagan)
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To: Pantera

obama takes one more step to take complete control of the Country.

One more duck lined up.

When he has everything like he wants it, then he will make his move.

He will then turn pn and begin “preventative” detention of those he considers his political enemies, [who oppose him].

He is relentlessly and methodically moving to complete his agenda. Which is to take cpmplete control of the Nation, including the military.

Everyone who has taken an oath to defend and uphold the Constitution sees with both eyes, even if they are closed, the Constitution being shredded minute by minute by him, yet says nothing.


178 posted on 01/12/2010 6:46:17 AM PST by sport
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To: MissDairyGoodnessVT

There won’t be a next President.


179 posted on 01/12/2010 6:47:22 AM PST by sport
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To: sport

lighten up sport,there’s always hope & light at the end of this tunnel


180 posted on 01/12/2010 6:49:35 AM PST by MissDairyGoodnessVT (Free Nobel Peace Prize with oil change =^..^=)
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To: thecodont

Don’t hold your breath.


181 posted on 01/12/2010 6:55:43 AM PST by sport
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To: wastedyears

Yep! And expect it to be repeated many times in the coming months.


182 posted on 01/12/2010 6:59:24 AM PST by sport
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To: Travis McGee

He’s trying to get the Governors to drink the kool-aid.


183 posted on 01/12/2010 7:04:18 AM PST by CodeToad (If it weren't for physics and law enforcement I'd be unstoppable!)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

They are going to be really pissed whrn they find themselves on the wrong side of the barb wire. For a while, then they won’t be anything but dead.


184 posted on 01/12/2010 7:05:56 AM PST by sport
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To: Baynative

5 RINO governors, no doubt.


185 posted on 01/12/2010 7:06:15 AM PST by CodeToad (If it weren't for physics and law enforcement I'd be unstoppable!)
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To: Pantera

I’m gonna go apply for an FID card now, while I still have a chance.


186 posted on 01/12/2010 7:06:43 AM PST by Cheesel (The Ark was built by amateurs, the Titanic by professionals.)
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To: PIF

“The 3 million are organized, the 90 million are not organized.”

Ever try to hit a swarm of bees? An organized army can be defeated because they can be identified.


187 posted on 01/12/2010 7:07:55 AM PST by CodeToad (If it weren't for physics and law enforcement I'd be unstoppable!)
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To: azishot
The Council shall consist of 10 State Governors appointed bythe President (Members), of whom no more than five shall be ofthe same political party.

Hmmmmm....5 democrats and 5 RINO's???

Try 5 demonrats and 5 "progress"ives

188 posted on 01/12/2010 7:16:42 AM PST by bIlluminati (Don't just hope for change, work for change in 2010.)
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To: Pantera
"Satrapy".....the word "satrapy" (from the Persian) is used in modern times to refer (usually derogatorily) to the loyal subservient lieutenants or governors of some powerful figure in government, politics or business.

"Satrap".....a subordinate ruler or governor.

Leni

189 posted on 01/12/2010 7:19:52 AM PST by MinuteGal (Bill O'Reilly: 9/8/09: "Communism is not a threat to us anymore"-10/20/09: "Obama is not a Marxist")
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To: Vor Lady

Hmmmmm...


190 posted on 01/12/2010 7:39:29 AM PST by LongElegantLegs (Raise the fanged and warlike mistress, stern, impassive, weaponed mistress...)
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To: CyberAnt
An EO can be overturned by CONgress, the next Prez or a mass revolt of the people local iniatives using the 14th. Manyof the Emergency EO s that the FedGov abuse to this day date back to Kennedy.
191 posted on 01/12/2010 7:40:56 AM PST by ASOC (In case of attack, tune to 640 kilocycles or 1240 kilocycles on your AM dial.)
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To: Noumenon
On reflection, I thought it might be related to the execrable performance of all levels of Government during the late great Hurricane Katrina.
192 posted on 01/12/2010 7:45:49 AM PST by ASOC (In case of attack, tune to 640 kilocycles or 1240 kilocycles on your AM dial.)
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To: Pantera

don’t trust ‘em bump


193 posted on 01/12/2010 7:48:09 AM PST by tutstar (Baptist Ping list - freepmail me to get on or off.)
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To: Rodebrecht
Take a lesson from Austria circa 1938:

1938 Austria --Land of "The Sound of Music" Story Friends, I had the opportunity to hear Kitty Werthmann speak at the Eagle Forum national conference a couple of months back. She told a powerful story about what it was like growing up under Hitler.

America Truly is the Greatest Country in the World.
Don't Let Freedom Slip Away
By: Kitty Werthmann

What I am about to tell you is something you've probably never heard or will ever read in history books.

I believe that I am an eyewitness to history. I cannot tell you that Hitler took Austria by tanks and guns; it would distort history. We elected him by a landslide - 98% of the vote. I've never read that in any American publications. Everyone thinks that Hitler just rolled in with his tanks and took Austria by force.

In 1938, Austria was in deep Depression. Nearly one-third of our workforce was unemployed. We had 25% inflation and 25% bank loan interest rates.

Farmers and business people were declaring bankruptcy daily. Young people were going from house to house begging for food. Not that they didn't want to work; there simply weren't any jobs. My mother was a Christian woman and believed in helping people in need. Every day we cooked a big kettle of soup and baked bread to feed those poor, hungry people - about 30 daily.

The Communist Party and the National Socialist Party were fighting each other. Blocks and blocks of cities like Vienna , Linz , and Graz were destroyed. The people became desperate and petitioned the government to let them decide what kind of government they wanted.

We looked to our neighbor on the north, Germany , where Hitler had been in power since 1933. We had been told that they didn't have unemployment or crime, and they had a high standard of living. Nothing was ever said about persecution of any group -- Jewish or otherwise. We were led to believe that everyone was happy. We wanted the same way of life in Austria . We were promised that a vote for Hitler would mean the end of unemployment and help for the family. Hitler also said that businesses would be assisted, and farmers would get their farms back. Ninety-eight percent of the population voted to annex Austria to Germany and have Hitler for our ruler.

We were overjoyed, and for three days we danced in the streets and had candlelight parades. The new government opened up big field kitchens and everyone was fed.

After the election, German officials were appointed, and like a miracle, we suddenly had law and order. Three or four weeks later, everyone was employed. The government made sure that a lot of work was created through the Public Work Service.

Hitler decided we should have equal rights for women. Before this, it was a custom that married Austrian women did not work outside the home. An able-bodied husband would be looked down on if he couldn't support his family. Many women in the teaching profession were elated that they could retain the jobs they previously had been required to give up for marriage.

Hitler Targets Education - Eliminates Religious Instruction for Children:

Our education was nationalized. I attended a very good public school. The population was predominantly Catholic, so we had religion in our schools. The day we elected Hitler (March 13, 1938), I walked into my schoolroom to find the crucifix replaced by Hitler's picture hanging next to a Nazi flag. Our teacher, a very devout woman, stood up and told the class we wouldn't pray or have religion anymore. Instead, we sang "Deutschland, Deutschland, Uber Alles," and had physical education.

Sunday became National Youth Day with compulsory attendance. Parents were not pleased about the sudden change in curriculum. They were told that if they did not send us, they would receive a stiff letter of warning the first time. The second time they would be fined the equivalent of $300, and the third time they would be subject to jail. The first two hours consisted of political indoctrination. The rest of the day we had sports. As time went along, we loved it. Oh, we had so much fun and got our sports equipment free. We would go home and gleefully tell our parents about the wonderful time we had.

My mother was very unhappy. When the next term started, she took me out of public school and put me in a convent. I told her she couldn't do that and she told me that someday when I grew up, I would be grateful. There was a very good curriculum, but hardly any fun - no sports, and no political indoctrination. I hated it at first but felt I could tolerate it. Every once in a while, on holidays, I went home. I would go back to my old friends and ask what was going on and what they were doing. Their loose lifestyle was very alarming to me. They lived without religion. By that time unwed mothers were glorified for having a baby for Hitler. It seemed strange to me that our society changed so suddenly. As time went along, I realized what a great deed my mother did so that I wasn't exposed to that kind of humanistic philosophy.

Equal Rights Hits Home:

In 1939, the war started and a food bank was established. All food was rationed and could only be purchased using food stamps. At the same time, a full-employment law was passed which meant if you didn't work, you didn't get a ration card, and if you didn't have a card, you starved to death. Women who stayed home to raise their families didn't have any marketable skills and often had to take jobs more suited for men.

Soon after this, the draft was implemented. It was compulsory for young people, male and female, to give one year to the labor corps. During the day, the girls worked on the farms, and at night they returned to their barracks for military training just like the boys. They were trained to be anti-aircraft gunners and participated in the signal corps. After the labor corps, they were not discharged but were used in the front lines. When I go back to Austria to visit my family and friends, most of these women are emotional cripples because they just were not equipped to handle the horrors of combat. Three months before I turned 18, I was severely injured in an air raid attack.

I nearly had a leg amputated, so I was spared having to go into the labor corps and into military service.

Hitler Restructured the Family Through Daycare:

When the mothers had to go out into the work force, the government immediately established child care centers. You could take your children ages 4 weeks to school age and leave them there around-the-clock, 7 days a week, under the total care of the government.. The state raised a whole generation of children. There were no motherly women to take care of the children, just people highly trained in child psychology.

By this time, no one talked about equal rights. We knew we had been had.

Health Care and Small Business Suffer Under Government Controls:

Before Hitler, we had very good medical care. Many American doctors trained at the University of Vienna. After Hitler, health care was socialized, free for everyone. Doctors were salaried by the government. The problem was, since it was free, the people were going to the doctors for everything. When the good doctor arrived at his office at 8 a.m., 40 people were already waiting and, at the same time, the hospitals were full. If you needed elective surgery, you had to wait a year or two for your turn.

There was no money for research as it was poured into socialized medicine. Research at the medical schools literally stopped, so the best doctors left Austria and emigrated to other countries.

As for healthcare, our tax rates went up to 80% of our income. Newlyweds immediately received a $1,000 loan from the government to establish a household. We had big programs for families. All day care and education were free. High schools were taken over by the government and college tuition was subsidized. Everyone was entitled to free handouts, such as food stamps, clothing, and housing.

We had another agency designed to monitor business. My brother-in-law owned a restaurant that had square tables. Government officials told him he had to replace them with round tables because people might bump themselves on the corners. Then they said he had to have additional bathroom facilities. It was just a small dairy business with a snack bar. He couldn't meet all the demands. Soon, he went out of business. If the government owned the large businesses and not many small ones existed, it could be in control.

We had consumer protection. We were told how to shop and what to buy. Free enterprise was essentially abolished. We had a planning agency specially designed for farmers. The agents would go to the farms, count the live-stock, then tell the farmers what to produce, and how to produce it.

"Mercy Killing" Redefined:

In 1944, I was a student teacher in a small village in the Alps . The villagers were surrounded by mountain passes which, in the winter, were closed off with snow, causing people to be isolated. So people intermarried and offspring were sometimes retarded. When I arrived, I was told there were 15 mentally retarded adults, but they were all useful and did good manual work. I knew one, named Vincent, very well. He was a janitor of the school. One day I looked out the window and saw Vincent and others getting into a van. I asked my superior where they were going. She said to an institution where the State Health Department would teach them a trade, and to read and write. The families were required to sign papers with a little clause that they could not visit for 6 months. They were told visits would interfere with the program and might cause homesickness.

As time passed, letters started to dribble back saying these people died a natural, merciful death. The villagers were not fooled. We suspected what was happening. Those people left in excellent physical health and all died within 6 months. We called this euthanasia.

The Final Steps - Gun Laws:

Next came gun registration. People were getting injured by guns… Hitler said that the real way to catch criminals (we still had a few) was by matching serial numbers on guns. Most citizens were law abiding and dutifully marched to the police station to register their firearms. Not long after-wards, the police said that it was best for everyone to turn in their guns. The authorities already knew who had them, so it was futile not to comply voluntarily.

No more freedom of speech.

Anyone who said something against the government was taken away. We knew many people who were arrested, not only Jews, but also priests and ministers who spoke up.

Totalitarianism didn't come quickly, it took 5 years from 1938 until 1943, to realize full dictatorship in Austria .

Had it happened overnight, my countrymen would have fought to the last breath. Instead, we had creeping gradualism. Now, our only weapons were broom handles. The whole idea sounds almost unbelievable that the state, little by little eroded our freedom.

After World War II, Russian troops occupied Austria . Women were raped, preteen to elderly. The press never wrote about this either. When the Soviets left in 1955, they took everything that they could, dismantling whole factories in the process. They sawed down whole orchards of fruit, and what they couldn't destroy, they burned. We called it The Burned Earth. Most of the population barricaded themselves in their houses. Women hid in their cellars for 6 weeks as the troops mobilized. Those who couldn't, paid the price. There is a monument in Vienna today, dedicated to those women who were massacred by the Russians. This is an eye witness account.

"It's true..those of us who sailed past the Statue of Liberty came to a country of unbelievable freedom and opportunity.

America Truly is the Greatest Country in the World. Don't Let Freedom Slip Away

"After America , There is No Place to Go"

194 posted on 01/12/2010 7:52:42 AM PST by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: Mr. Jazzy

My thoughts also.
2 years to get it up and running.


195 posted on 01/12/2010 8:00:10 AM PST by Marty62 (former Marty60)
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To: ncfool

I seem to remember during the election he said something about bringing the troops back and stationing them in major cities. The mask is coming off and the iron rule of a dictator inches forward.


196 posted on 01/12/2010 8:03:25 AM PST by spaced
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To: Pantera

What happens that day when have 46-47 Republican Governors???


197 posted on 01/12/2010 8:04:41 AM PST by danamco
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To: CodeToad

“Ever try to hit a swarm of bees? An organized army can be defeated because they can be identified.”

that worked well for the iraqi army a few years back...

For pesky bees I usually use directed smoke at dusk -— followed by some DDT ... seems to be effective.


198 posted on 01/12/2010 8:05:50 AM PST by PIF
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To: freekitty

The toadies among the governors will line up for this appointment. They will understand it for what it is - a naked power grab from the people. Elections can be rowdy, ending elections brings peace and guarantees those in power remain there.


199 posted on 01/12/2010 8:06:34 AM PST by spaced
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To: mdmathis6
“The control freaks would have to resort to nukes or the threat of them to bring the country to heel!”

Why would they have to make nuke threats when the can just use the real thing? Maoist do not care how many die... It isn't so much about controlling the population as about destroying the US.

200 posted on 01/12/2010 8:08:25 AM PST by PIF
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