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President Obama Signs Executive Order Establishing Council of Governors
Executive Order ^ | January 11, 2010

Posted on 01/11/2010 7:45:15 PM PST by Pantera

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To: wheninthecourse

Rush mentioned that obama had signed this executive order and questioned what the possible implications might be. He didn’t focus on it long.


251 posted on 01/12/2010 12:01:43 PM PST by Girlene
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To: bushwon
Send it NOW to Mark Levin, Laura Ingraham, Sean, ANY CONSERVATIVE TALK SHOW HOST. GET THE WORD OUT...THIS IS DAMN SERIOUS!
252 posted on 01/12/2010 12:23:06 PM PST by itssme
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To: LongElegantLegs

Hmmmmmmmm is right.


253 posted on 01/12/2010 12:40:50 PM PST by Vor Lady ("Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." JFK)
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To: Pantera
Does this violate Article I Section 10 Clause 3?

No State shall, without the Consent of Congress, lay any Duty of Tonnage, keep Troops, or Ships of War in time of Peace, enter into any Agreement or Compact with another State, or with a foreign Power, or engage in War, unless actually invaded, or in such imminent Danger as will not admit of delay.

Is this so-called "Council of Governors" not a compact between the selected states?

-PJ

254 posted on 01/12/2010 12:53:06 PM PST by Political Junkie Too ("Comprehensive" reform bills only end up as incomprehensible messes.)
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To: Girlene
“Rush mentioned that obama signed this executive order and questioned what the possible implications might be. He didn't focus on it long.”

Rush and everyone else is spending toooo much time discussing harry reid and his comments. Meanwhile, obama is working the back room and signing executive orders and God knows what else. STOP ALREADY with the harry reid commentary and focus on what obama is NOW doing....these communists are slimy, devious and work under cover of anyone and anything that will allow them to carry on their plans for OUR demise.
255 posted on 01/12/2010 12:54:04 PM PST by itssme
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To: Girlene

“Rush mentioned that obama signed this executive order and questioned what the possible implications might be. He didn’t focus on it long.”


Rush and everyone else is spending toooo much time discussing harry reid and his comments. Meanwhile, obama is working the back room and signing executive orders and God knows what else. STOP ALREADY with the harry reid commentary and focus on what obama is NOW doing....these communists are slimy, devious and work under cover of anyone and anything that will allow them to carry on their plans for OUR demise.


256 posted on 01/12/2010 12:54:56 PM PST by itssme
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To: ExSoldier

“Most citizens were law abiding and dutifully marched to the police station to register their firearms.”

And that was their biggest mistake.


257 posted on 01/12/2010 12:57:19 PM PST by Psalm 144 (What did you think NEW WORLD ORDER meant? The Constitution? States' rights? Individual liberty?)
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To: itssme
Wow! Great minds think alike.

I took it as long as I could and I sat down and typed an email to Rush stating simply, "Reid...STOP ALREADY!"

He beat that horse to death all the while I was hoping for analysis on other events crowding the news.

The racial satire he was using played itself out early on and ceased being satirical and effective.

Very disappointing to me today, Rushbo.

Happy birthday, anyhow.

Leni

258 posted on 01/12/2010 1:00:36 PM PST by MinuteGal (Bill O'Reilly: 9/8/09: "Communism is not a threat to us anymore"-10/20/09: "Obama is not a Marxist")
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To: Girlene

I heard Rush as well — He also said he was going to consult with his legal beagles before drawing conclusions, mentioned Levin was one of those.


259 posted on 01/12/2010 1:14:47 PM PST by Tarpon ( ...)
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To: itssme

Thankk you!

I sent to Levin as well as 2 local hosts. Will send to Bill Cunningham too.


260 posted on 01/12/2010 1:22:02 PM PST by bushwon ("If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait till it is free"--PJ O'rourke)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

BS is not a good reply to a thoughtful question - wars (and revolutions) are won by planning, logistics and communication. Suggest you and those like minded give some further thought on what exactly you can and cannot do in regards to the above. Else, when the time comes, end up wishing you had.


261 posted on 01/12/2010 2:20:22 PM PST by PIF
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To: Pantera

Anything to confuse operations further.


262 posted on 01/12/2010 2:49:57 PM PST by HonestConservative (http://www.blogtalkradio.com/freedom Sun 8 pm est.)
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To: ExSoldier

Do you have a link for that, I want to send it out.


263 posted on 01/12/2010 3:07:46 PM PST by AliVeritas (Is it nothing to you all ye who pass by? Our brothers blood screams from the ground.)
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To: GILTN1stborn

Wow. I’m sure he means well though. /sarcasm


264 posted on 01/12/2010 3:33:55 PM PST by Mrs. P ("Wonder Woman wears Sarah Palin pajamas." - Blood of Tyrants)
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To: Shadowstrike
You are assuming we'll be allowed to vote in 2010, and 2012.

And that would be a bad assumption based upon wrong premises. These monsters have no intention of relinquishing power. Ever. Draw your own conclusions. Then act.

265 posted on 01/12/2010 3:35:34 PM PST by Noumenon ("Upon what meat doth this our Caesar feed, that he has grown so great?" - Julius Caesar)
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To: Pantera

For Immediate Release
January 12, 2010

Washington D.C.
FBI National Press Office
(202) 324-3691

Op-Ed on FBI’s Post-9/11 Counterterrorism Efforts

The following op-ed, published on January 11, 2010 in The New York Post, was written by former FBI Assistant Director James Kallstrom. Kallstrom, who is currently a member of the FBI Director’s Advisory Group, was also director of the New York Homeland Security Agency.

Ever since 9/11, critics have suggested that the FBI isn’t up to its task as our nation’s lead counterterrorism agency.

Yet, as the nation focused on the failures of the intelligence community in the Christmas Day bombing attempt over Detroit, last Friday saw two more arrests in the ongoing FBI investigation of a plot to bomb New York City first exposed by the September arrest of Najibullah Zazi.

It’s easy to stand on the periphery, without the benefit of real-world experience, and render judgments with the benefit of hindsight. But counterterrorism cases are extremely complex and often require a relatively quick series of judgments, often with incomplete information. Counterterror investigations and intelligence gathering aren’t black and white, simple, or easy.

America went on a war footing against terrorism only after 9/11. Before then, our government viewed international terrorism strictly as a law-enforcement matter, giving the FBI the responsibility to address it. In that period, the FBI had significant accomplishments, including the apprehension of the 1993 World Trade Center bombers within six days; preventing attacks on New York’s most important landmarks with the arrest and conviction of the “Blind Sheik;” sending agents in 1998 to East Africa, where they quickly solved the two US embassy bombing cases without the assets normally available to investigators in America; and, in 2000, dispatching agents after the USS Cole bombing to Yemen, where they determined that al Qaeda terrorists had carried out the bombing. During this period, the Justice Department severely and unnecessarily restricted the FBI’s ability to share intelligence information, and Congress acted haltingly to properly resource, fund and provide the legal framework for the FBI’s counterterrorism program, including new technology required to defend the nation.

Post-9/11, as al Qaeda and other Muslim extremist groups have demonstrated their obsession with radicalizing U.S. Muslims, the FBI has disrupted a number of plots.

While some claim that collecting and analyzing intelligence is a new phenomenon in the FBI culture, in fact, the FBI’s intelligence and counterintelligence mission began before World War II and predates the creation of the fabled OSS and the CIA. Indeed, the FBI has long honed the skills and techniques necessary for success in protecting against international terrorism—using informants, undercover operations, and court-ordered electronic surveillance. Historically, the FBI has collected and analyzed information, whether the threat was the Soviet Union, domestic terrorist groups like the Klu Klux Klan, or organized crime.

Yet such critics as Gabriel Schoenfeld (in his Dec. 4 Post op-ed, “The FBI Bungles on Terror Again”) assert, “It’s high time to look at creating a new and separate domestic counterterrorism…agency along the lines of Great Britain’s MI5.”

In evaluating this naive and discredited suggestion, we need to consider the following:

Americans have rejected the notion of a national police force for over 200 years. The FBI was not established as a law-enforcement agency until 1933, precisely because the republic wanted to limit the authority of those whom protect our civil liberties.

The FBI is designed to be as transparent as possible for the purpose of protecting the nation, as well as the rights and liberties enshrined in the Constitution. The oversight provided by Congress, the courts, and others have ensured the FBI did not evolve into a secret police force operating in the “Perpetual Black.”

While England’s MI-5 might be viewed as a panacea, it needs to be examined in light of the long, painful history of its operations in Northern Ireland. Moreover, MI-5 didn’t protect England from the London Subway bombings and other acts of terrorism.

It would be difficult, if not impossible, for a myriad of state, local, and federal law-enforcement officials to have effective liaison with a secret domestic police operation.

A painful lesson learned from 9/11 is that the bifurcation of our intelligence and law-enforcement competencies leads to “stove piping” of information—a formula for disaster. Creating a separate secret-police organization would revive that failed model—weakening and balkanizing the law-enforcement and intelligence communities, rather than creating a united, seamless effort.

While many terrorism and legal experts have weighed in, the most qualified critics are the Brits themselves. If fact, many senior British law-enforcement officials criticize the MI-5 model and prefer the FBI’s dual criminal and intelligence/terrorism roles.
This isn’t to say the FBI can’t do a better job integrating these disciplines and more broadly coordinating within the larger intelligence and law enforcement communities. Yet the fact these structures don’t always perform seamlessly doesn’t suggest the current process is dysfunctional.

Having devoted a considerable amount of my life in the “arena,” I am confident the dedicated men and women of the FBI will continue to perform at a very high professional level to protect this great nation, while adhering to constitutional principles and the rule of law.


266 posted on 01/12/2010 3:50:36 PM PST by TornadoAlley3 (Obama is everything Oklahoma is not.)
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68; rxsid
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2426498/posts
A Stability Police Force for the United States: RAND CORP CALLS FOR NATIONAL POLICE FORCE???

WTH?????

What is going on here in this country....and I do live in a big city..... : (

267 posted on 01/12/2010 4:04:10 PM PST by Chgogal (American Mugabe, get your arse out of my bank, my car, my doctor's office & my elec. utility.)
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To: PIF
WHY EX MILITARY AND CURRENT MILITARY MATTER! I first posted this on FR back in 1998. It was a huge thread then mostly because folks here were worried Clinton was going to trigger the odious EOs (because of a Y2K "meltdown") and make himself KING. Around that time, I began hearing about a group of folks who would uhhh RESIST such a move and had the means to make their actions count. As it seems to be the case, we had the right idea, just the wrong President and era.
268 posted on 01/12/2010 4:10:07 PM PST by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: AliVeritas; MamaDearest
I got this in an e-mail from my mama. Maybe she has the original link? MamaDearest, what say you?
269 posted on 01/12/2010 4:12:24 PM PST by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: Travis McGee; 1COUNTER-MORTER-68
Well, our Marxist President must be planning for something a la Stalin. I guess it wouldn't be that difficult to control Chicago. Close down, I-90, I-94, I-55, the airports and everyone stay home for a week or maybe weeks....

Chicago, would have to close down the metra system. Police/National Guard would attempt to keep the city calm.

My car is in Ft Lauderdale right now. I'll be picking it up come February....

How long do we have until the SHTF? I am thinking at least a few months???

270 posted on 01/12/2010 4:19:58 PM PST by Chgogal (American Mugabe, get your arse out of my bank, my car, my doctor's office & my elec. utility.)
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To: CyberAnt

Prepare for the Jackbooted THUGS. They are being organized NOW!! Whose gonna go FIRST? The Jackboots or the thugs? CO


271 posted on 01/12/2010 4:28:54 PM PST by Canadian Outrage (Conservatism is to a country what medicine is to a wound - HEALING!!)
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To: Gabrial
President Stalin in his own words:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tt2yGzHfy7s&feature=related

272 posted on 01/12/2010 4:33:30 PM PST by Chgogal (American Mugabe, get your arse out of my bank, my car, my doctor's office & my elec. utility.)
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To: jz638

Yes, the old soviet constitution permits it.


273 posted on 01/12/2010 4:38:10 PM PST by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: Travis McGee

I have seen this coming for a long time. In fact the creep said he would do this while he was yet campaigning. And right now, he HAS to think of a way to keep the 2010 Elections from happening because NO tyrannt will ever allow HIMSELF or his cabal of lackies surrounding him to be removed thereby removing his power. This guy is a dangerous, hateful, megalomaniac. America is going to have to ACT first. After the fact will be too late. CO


274 posted on 01/12/2010 4:41:23 PM PST by Canadian Outrage (Conservatism is to a country what medicine is to a wound - HEALING!!)
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To: ExSoldier; STARWISE; 1COUNTER-MORTER-68
“After America , There is No Place to Go”

Exsoldier, thank you for this post. My parents are from WW2 Europe. Every word of your post is true.

It seems the times are going to get way too interesting.

Special PFYW, ExSoldier.

275 posted on 01/12/2010 4:45:00 PM PST by Chgogal (American Mugabe, get your arse out of my bank, my car, my doctor's office & my elec. utility.)
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To: PIF

I think The Bees Americanus are a special breed and will adapt to your ability to spray them with DDT, smoke and other sorts of weapons in your possession.


276 posted on 01/12/2010 4:49:08 PM PST by Chgogal (American Mugabe, get your arse out of my bank, my car, my doctor's office & my elec. utility.)
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To: Canadian Outrage

Whoops I meant to say Who is going to go first the Jackboots or t=he “We the People”? CO


277 posted on 01/12/2010 4:58:43 PM PST by Canadian Outrage (Conservatism is to a country what medicine is to a wound - HEALING!!)
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To: Chgogal; ExSoldier; penelopesire; seekthetruth; television is just wrong; jcsjcm; BP2; Pablo Mac; ..

~~OMG .. what a stunning and profound first hand
account of past history, and what we could someday
face.

Thanks for the ping, Chgogal, and thanks so much
for posting, exsoldier!!

MUST READ ................ PING!


278 posted on 01/12/2010 5:08:57 PM PST by STARWISE (.They (LIBS-STILL) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war- Richard Miniter)
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To: ExSoldier

Both were the ‘right’ guy and ‘right’ eras just now there is more com available to the public - so perhaps there is a chance again - planning, logistics and communucation would be the areas I’d look hard at.

However, it seems to me that most of those sort of guys are busy writing about their machismo to the detriment of any real thought what would actually be involved...


279 posted on 01/12/2010 5:25:39 PM PST by PIF
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To: Chgogal

I don’t have any special sauce for those bees, but the big beekeeper in DC does.

Just wish you guys/gals would do more than write “machismo” laced posts... getting very old.


280 posted on 01/12/2010 5:35:12 PM PST by PIF
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To: Pantera
the National Guard of the various States

Are the last line of defense against the DC Bolsheviks.

The GOP would be retarded to participate in this scam, good luck HUSSEIN in getting 5 GOP Govs to conspire against their constituency.

281 posted on 01/12/2010 5:41:46 PM PST by Rome2000 (OBAMA IS A COMMUNIST CRYPTO-MUSLIM)
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To: PIF
“Just wish you guys/gals would do more than write “machismo” laced posts... getting very old.”

Answer: American History; swamp fox. Look it up. You might learn something.

Just so you know, arrogant posters like yourself are so yesterday.

282 posted on 01/12/2010 5:52:30 PM PST by Chgogal (American Mugabe, get your arse out of my bank, my car, my doctor's office & my elec. utility.)
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To: wastedyears

Not applicable.

The socialists are pretty spread out geographically and are not particularly mobile and would be annihilated if they ventured out of their horrendous cities into the real USA.

283 posted on 01/12/2010 5:54:07 PM PST by Rome2000 (OBAMA IS A COMMUNIST CRYPTO-MUSLIM)
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To: Pantera

There were those who said this was the path we were heading down with the Patriot act.


284 posted on 01/12/2010 6:13:52 PM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Rome2000

But they would not hesitate to destroy all those who oppose them. Remember that.


285 posted on 01/12/2010 6:18:22 PM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Pantera
This was the result of legislation passed in 2008, sponsored by Rep Ike Skelton (D) of MO & Co-sponsored by Duncan Hunter (R) in House, and signed of by GWB.

But all that it says in the law re this "Board of Governors" is:

The President shall establish a bipartisan Council of Governors to advise the Secretary of Defense, the Secretary of Homeland Security, and the White House Homeland Security Council on matters related to the National Guard and civil support missions.

Why BHO has decided to do this now when even GWB didn't, is anyone's guess.

286 posted on 01/12/2010 6:53:14 PM PST by Bokababe (Save Christian Kosovo! http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: PapaBear3625

No! This YouTube says it all

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tt2yGzHfy7s


287 posted on 01/12/2010 7:07:29 PM PST by CyberAnt (Healthcare is not a RIGHT guaranteed by the Constitution)
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To: ASOC

I knew that info .. but I thought your comment said that the EO’s only last as long as the president is in office. If that’s not what you meant .. I’m sorry, but that’s the way I read it.


288 posted on 01/12/2010 7:09:41 PM PST by CyberAnt (Healthcare is not a RIGHT guaranteed by the Constitution)
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To: rlmorel

This video was taken during the last campaign .. so I don’t think any of those vets are from the Vietnam era.


289 posted on 01/12/2010 7:14:17 PM PST by CyberAnt (Healthcare is not a RIGHT guaranteed by the Constitution)
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To: Chgogal
Just in case you are too lazy to look up Swamp Fox, I will freepmail you the following:

http://www.smithsonianmag.com/history-archaeology/biography/fox.html

My reference to The Bees Americanus was referring to the American Spirit as exemplified by the Swamp Fox. I am also posting this link for others to remember that the American Spirit is quite amazing.

290 posted on 01/12/2010 7:28:58 PM PST by Chgogal (American Mugabe, get your arse out of my bank, my car, my doctor's office & my elec. utility.)
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To: PIF; JustPiper; Old Sarge; Squantos; Travis McGee; wardaddy; MamaDearest; All
However, it seems to me that most of those sort of guys are busy writing about their machismo to the detriment of any real thought what would actually be involved...

You clearly have not much idea as to the capabilities of army Special Forces. Certainly they have a mission profile that involves "Direct Action." The fabled Studies and Observation Group (SOG) in the Vietnam conflict specialized in that kind of activity. Assassinations, kidnappings, extortion, sabotage, etc. But the reality is, that would be kind of like using a scalpel to mow the lawn. The true mission is raising indigenous armies, training & equipping them to overthrow a sitting government. Do you know that most SOF guys, the real operators, are sergeants?

The makeup of the average Special Forces "A-Team" is composed of ten sergeants usually in the rank of Staff Sergeant or higher. There are ten of these. A 1LT acts as the Executive Officer and a captain is the commander. In certain situations the XO can take command of half the unit and carry out specialized missions. All "A-Team" operators are cross trained in at least one other specialty so that anybody can readily replace a fallen operator in the middle of a mission.

Most have Bachelor level degrees and many have education going far beyond that. All are multilingual. These aren't your average "knuckle dragging" gorilla. They proudly refer to themselves as the quiet professionals simply because they don't spend any time preening and gathering accolades. It's just not in their nature.

The super secret army outfit called in some circles as the "CAG" for Combat Applications Group and in a more formalized title inside the army: Special Forces Operational Detachment Delta. AKA the Delta Force. I think Delta is the "new" SOG. They specialize in so called "Direct Action."

There are thousands of former Special Forces "operators" living quiet civilian lives. I know a few. Trust me, you wouldn't want to get them all riled up for any reason. Remember the mention of how Eric Rudolph managed to run the civilian police ragged trying to hunt him down? He was just a Joe Schmoe infantry private. No special skills and no real experience. How'd you like to have 800 or a thousand combat experienced former A-Team members running around in YOUR backyard looking to cause trouble? Now put all those guys next to the operators from other services like the Navy SEALs and the USMC Force Recon guys. That would be a nightmare for the purveyors of tyranny. IOW, don't be so quick to write these guys off. That's why books are written about their exploits and movies are made....

291 posted on 01/12/2010 8:05:00 PM PST by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: CyberAnt

Check out their hats...they both look like they say “Vietnam Veteran” and they do kind of look like the right age, although with liberals, you can never tell if they actually were veterans or not.


292 posted on 01/12/2010 8:21:30 PM PST by rlmorel (We are traveling "The Road to Serfdom".)
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To: PIF; ExSoldier

If they are telling anyone what they are doing or not doing they ain’t......just my opinion.

Stay safe !


293 posted on 01/12/2010 8:37:53 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: rlmorel

Well .. there is a very left-wing group of VV’s, and I suppose they were there on purpose and could be a part of this new “military” Obama is planning.

I guess I was so stunned by O’s statements, that I wasn’t concentrating on the audience.


294 posted on 01/12/2010 8:49:15 PM PST by CyberAnt (Healthcare is not a RIGHT guaranteed by the Constitution)
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To: ExSoldier
I think you have seen Rambo too many times :) Been there done that.
295 posted on 01/13/2010 3:41:14 AM PST by PIF
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To: ExSoldier; PIF; Squantos

You will never convince guys like pif. It’s not worth your time. Those who know, know. Those who don’t, won’t.


296 posted on 01/13/2010 5:16:43 AM PST by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: Rodebrecht

FIRST steps??

Well, maybe, but it’s coming, regardless of which step it is...


297 posted on 01/13/2010 5:23:27 AM PST by RaceBannon (OBAMA'S HEALTH CARE IS SHOVEL READY...FOR SENIORS!!:: NObama. Not my president.)
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To: PIF
What Travis said.
298 posted on 01/13/2010 8:13:03 AM PST by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: ExSoldier

Well then ... since I could use the same handle as you, I can say we will have to simpily agree to disagree.


299 posted on 01/13/2010 8:15:40 AM PST by PIF
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To: PIF
I can say we will have to simpily agree to disagree.

Agreed! :-)

300 posted on 01/13/2010 8:21:11 AM PST by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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