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Looks like the White House is conspiring with state governors to work with the Dept of Homeland defense. I am sure we all recall that latest definition of terrorist coming out of Napalitano's office.
1 posted on 01/11/2010 7:45:16 PM PST by Pantera
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To: Pantera

What happens that day when have 46-47 Republican Governors???


197 posted on 01/12/2010 8:04:41 AM PST by danamco
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To: Jack Black

Ping


203 posted on 01/12/2010 8:09:52 AM PST by EdReform (Oath Keepers - Guardians of the Republic - Honor your oath - Join us: www.oathkeepers.org)
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To: Pantera

“synchronization and integration of State and Federal military activities in the United States;”

Looks like they have been working on this one for awile.
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The Myth of Posse Comitatus
Major Craig T. Trebilcock, U.S. Army Reserve

October 2000

Major Craig Trebilcock is a member of the Judge Advocate General’s Corps in the U.S. Army Reserve. He is assigned as an operational law attorney with the 153d Legal Support Organization in Norristown, PA. His area of specialization includes the laws applicable to U.S. forces engaged in operations in both the United States and abroad. Major Trebilcock is a graduate of the University of Michigan (A.B. with high honors, 1982) and the University of Michigan Law School (J.D., 1985). His military education includes the Judge Advocate General Basic Course (1988) and Advanced Course (1992), U.S. Army Command and General Staff College (1997), and the U.S. Navy War College International Relations Seminar (2000). Major Trebilcock is a civilian immigration attorney with the firm of Barley, Snyder, Senft, & Cohen in York, PA.


The Posse Comitatus Act has traditionally been viewed as a major barrier to the use of U.S. military forces in planning for homeland defense.[1] In fact, many in uniform believe that the act precludes the use of U.S. military assets in domestic security operations in any but the most extraordinary situations. As is often the case, reality bears little resemblance to the myth for homeland defense planners. Through a gradual erosion of the act’s prohibitions over the past 20 years, posse comitatus today is more of a procedural formality than an actual impediment to the use of U.S. military forces in homeland defense.

http://www.homelandsecurity.org/journal/articles/Trebilcock.htm


206 posted on 01/12/2010 8:23:21 AM PST by Marty62 (former Marty60)
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To: Pantera

Have no doubt, America.

You were duped in ‘06 and ‘08.

Those who do not value their freedoms,

neither understand nor likely deserve them.


216 posted on 01/12/2010 8:57:58 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. May yur bandwidth exceed your girth)
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President Obama Signs Executive Order Establishing Council of Governors

Looks like some community organizing.

STE=Q

219 posted on 01/12/2010 9:04:32 AM PST by STE=Q ("It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its government" ... Thomas Paine)
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Hmmmmmm. On a lighter note, here's a piece of satire on obama's EO: Whereas Said Barack Obama Orders Up a New Council of Governors to Talk Security Stuff

WHEREAS, the duly-elected President of these United States, Barack Obama, a Democrat, has determined that,

a) there is an insufficient number of advisory bodies among the gazillion already in existence for the federal government in general and said president and his White House specifically; and,

b) he chooses to ignore the existence of the National Governors Assn., the Republican Governors Assn., the Democratic Governors Assn. and the secure telephones within arms-reach of virtually everywhere said president chooses to sit and/or recline, and having duly decided that,

c) one more meaningless advisory body probably couldn't hurt anything, and might actually look good, and, ..................................

225 posted on 01/12/2010 9:36:17 AM PST by Girlene
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To: Pantera

Bookmark


227 posted on 01/12/2010 10:02:28 AM PST by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice)
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To: Pantera; All
The-Emperor-consolidates-power-among-the-regional-governors-before-dissolving-the-Imperial-Senate-and-destorying-Alderaan ping.


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

231 posted on 01/12/2010 10:22:33 AM PST by The Comedian (Evil can only succeed if good men don't point at it and laugh.)
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To: Pantera

The majority of our men in uniform will never be loyal to orders that restrain our own.


233 posted on 01/12/2010 10:39:12 AM PST by klimeckg ("The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men.")
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How much will this cost the taxpayers ?

There will have to be a special "Office of the Council of Governors" with an Adminstrative Assistant to prepare agendas, schedule meetings, take phone calls, etc.

Special stationary, special protection, on and on.

Another layer of bureaucracy, at a time when we should be slashing and burning a good portion of governent costs.

Will they all need to be flown to international soirees, such as the Copenhagen Conference ?

I can hardly wait, truly, for the Federal government to join the State governments in bankruptcy, and end all this nonsense.

Versaille, as in Louis and Antoinette, had NOTHING on these guys (And that loathesome woman Pelosi).

I'm going to the garage to sharpen my pitchfork.

234 posted on 01/12/2010 11:06:33 AM PST by happygrl (Hope and Change or Rope and Chains?)
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To: Pantera

Can’t get your link to work. Gives me a “network timed out” error.


235 posted on 01/12/2010 11:07:34 AM PST by Getsmart64
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***”More than two years ago I wrote a letter to all 535 members of Congress in which I implored them to find and set aside $200 billion in actual cash - not for “hand outs” in the traditional sense, but rather for the provision of emergency food, shelter and clothing, possibly to be provided on formerly-closed military facilities for up to 25% of the American population for a period of one year or more. They of course ignored that entreaty to the best of my ability to discern, but the reason for it was clear to me at the time and still is - a hungry and homeless population is a dangerous population, and “discontent” when married to an empty belly can easily turn to armed rebellion, especially if and when the “rabble” discern (and they eventually will) that they have been systematically robbed for decades by Wall Street, K Street and 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.”

http://market-ticker.denninger.net/archives/2010/01/10.html


236 posted on 01/12/2010 11:15:30 AM PST by happygrl (Hope and Change or Rope and Chains?)
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To: holdonnow; malia; HonestConservative

Smells unconstitutional.


239 posted on 01/12/2010 11:29:44 AM PST by AliVeritas (Is it nothing to you all ye who pass by? Our brothers blood screams from the ground.)
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To: Clint N. Suhks; sono; Cindy; tiredoflaundry; rodguy911

Bush dictator ping.


249 posted on 01/12/2010 11:56:48 AM PST by AliVeritas (Is it nothing to you all ye who pass by? Our brothers blood screams from the ground.)
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Another MARXIST PLANK of the LEFT's revolution is put into place.

First, ZERO makes this campaign pledge.

Next, ZERO issues an EO that would carry considerably more weight than ZERO's personal Youth Movement.


250 posted on 01/12/2010 12:00:24 PM PST by pyx (Rule#1.The LEFT lies.Rule#2.See Rule#1. IF THE LEFT CONTROLS THE LANGUAGE, IT CONTROLS THE ARGUMENT.)
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Does this violate Article I Section 10 Clause 3?

No State shall, without the Consent of Congress, lay any Duty of Tonnage, keep Troops, or Ships of War in time of Peace, enter into any Agreement or Compact with another State, or with a foreign Power, or engage in War, unless actually invaded, or in such imminent Danger as will not admit of delay.

Is this so-called "Council of Governors" not a compact between the selected states?

-PJ

254 posted on 01/12/2010 12:53:06 PM PST by Political Junkie Too ("Comprehensive" reform bills only end up as incomprehensible messes.)
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To: Pantera

Anything to confuse operations further.


262 posted on 01/12/2010 2:49:57 PM PST by HonestConservative (http://www.blogtalkradio.com/freedom Sun 8 pm est.)
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For Immediate Release
January 12, 2010

Washington D.C.
FBI National Press Office
(202) 324-3691

Op-Ed on FBI’s Post-9/11 Counterterrorism Efforts

The following op-ed, published on January 11, 2010 in The New York Post, was written by former FBI Assistant Director James Kallstrom. Kallstrom, who is currently a member of the FBI Director’s Advisory Group, was also director of the New York Homeland Security Agency.

Ever since 9/11, critics have suggested that the FBI isn’t up to its task as our nation’s lead counterterrorism agency.

Yet, as the nation focused on the failures of the intelligence community in the Christmas Day bombing attempt over Detroit, last Friday saw two more arrests in the ongoing FBI investigation of a plot to bomb New York City first exposed by the September arrest of Najibullah Zazi.

It’s easy to stand on the periphery, without the benefit of real-world experience, and render judgments with the benefit of hindsight. But counterterrorism cases are extremely complex and often require a relatively quick series of judgments, often with incomplete information. Counterterror investigations and intelligence gathering aren’t black and white, simple, or easy.

America went on a war footing against terrorism only after 9/11. Before then, our government viewed international terrorism strictly as a law-enforcement matter, giving the FBI the responsibility to address it. In that period, the FBI had significant accomplishments, including the apprehension of the 1993 World Trade Center bombers within six days; preventing attacks on New York’s most important landmarks with the arrest and conviction of the “Blind Sheik;” sending agents in 1998 to East Africa, where they quickly solved the two US embassy bombing cases without the assets normally available to investigators in America; and, in 2000, dispatching agents after the USS Cole bombing to Yemen, where they determined that al Qaeda terrorists had carried out the bombing. During this period, the Justice Department severely and unnecessarily restricted the FBI’s ability to share intelligence information, and Congress acted haltingly to properly resource, fund and provide the legal framework for the FBI’s counterterrorism program, including new technology required to defend the nation.

Post-9/11, as al Qaeda and other Muslim extremist groups have demonstrated their obsession with radicalizing U.S. Muslims, the FBI has disrupted a number of plots.

While some claim that collecting and analyzing intelligence is a new phenomenon in the FBI culture, in fact, the FBI’s intelligence and counterintelligence mission began before World War II and predates the creation of the fabled OSS and the CIA. Indeed, the FBI has long honed the skills and techniques necessary for success in protecting against international terrorism—using informants, undercover operations, and court-ordered electronic surveillance. Historically, the FBI has collected and analyzed information, whether the threat was the Soviet Union, domestic terrorist groups like the Klu Klux Klan, or organized crime.

Yet such critics as Gabriel Schoenfeld (in his Dec. 4 Post op-ed, “The FBI Bungles on Terror Again”) assert, “It’s high time to look at creating a new and separate domestic counterterrorism…agency along the lines of Great Britain’s MI5.”

In evaluating this naive and discredited suggestion, we need to consider the following:

Americans have rejected the notion of a national police force for over 200 years. The FBI was not established as a law-enforcement agency until 1933, precisely because the republic wanted to limit the authority of those whom protect our civil liberties.

The FBI is designed to be as transparent as possible for the purpose of protecting the nation, as well as the rights and liberties enshrined in the Constitution. The oversight provided by Congress, the courts, and others have ensured the FBI did not evolve into a secret police force operating in the “Perpetual Black.”

While England’s MI-5 might be viewed as a panacea, it needs to be examined in light of the long, painful history of its operations in Northern Ireland. Moreover, MI-5 didn’t protect England from the London Subway bombings and other acts of terrorism.

It would be difficult, if not impossible, for a myriad of state, local, and federal law-enforcement officials to have effective liaison with a secret domestic police operation.

A painful lesson learned from 9/11 is that the bifurcation of our intelligence and law-enforcement competencies leads to “stove piping” of information—a formula for disaster. Creating a separate secret-police organization would revive that failed model—weakening and balkanizing the law-enforcement and intelligence communities, rather than creating a united, seamless effort.

While many terrorism and legal experts have weighed in, the most qualified critics are the Brits themselves. If fact, many senior British law-enforcement officials criticize the MI-5 model and prefer the FBI’s dual criminal and intelligence/terrorism roles.
This isn’t to say the FBI can’t do a better job integrating these disciplines and more broadly coordinating within the larger intelligence and law enforcement communities. Yet the fact these structures don’t always perform seamlessly doesn’t suggest the current process is dysfunctional.

Having devoted a considerable amount of my life in the “arena,” I am confident the dedicated men and women of the FBI will continue to perform at a very high professional level to protect this great nation, while adhering to constitutional principles and the rule of law.


266 posted on 01/12/2010 3:50:36 PM PST by TornadoAlley3 (Obama is everything Oklahoma is not.)
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the National Guard of the various States

Are the last line of defense against the DC Bolsheviks.

The GOP would be retarded to participate in this scam, good luck HUSSEIN in getting 5 GOP Govs to conspire against their constituency.

281 posted on 01/12/2010 5:41:46 PM PST by Rome2000 (OBAMA IS A COMMUNIST CRYPTO-MUSLIM)
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There were those who said this was the path we were heading down with the Patriot act.


284 posted on 01/12/2010 6:13:52 PM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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