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Man tests right by carrying gun in public(CA)
bakersfieldnow.com ^ | 11 January, 2010 | Betsy Lambert

Posted on 01/12/2010 4:15:07 AM PST by marktwain

BAKERSFIELD, Calif. -- A Kern County man is testing his Second Amendment right to bear arms.

Rafael Esqueda said he has been visiting different public places over the past week with his gun on his belt.

"We can openly carry in California," he said. "The firearm has to be unloaded in plain view, and the magazine, which is an integral part of the firearm, have to be exposed, also."

In an effort to promote his platform, he, and about four of his friends, all showed up at River Walk Park on Sunday afternoon with their guns exposed. Eyewitness News was there to capture reactions from parkgoers and the event that was to follow.

One family who was at the park fishing with children and grandchildren said they didn't feel comfortable with the guns out. Sandra Cantu is a grandmother and thought what Esqueda was doing was not right.

"I have a lot of grandkids, and I wouldn't want them to do that," she said. "It's showing a mixed message that they could carry them."

About 20 minutes after Esqueda arrived, Bakersfield police arrived and informed him that it was against city code to carry guns in a city park. Esqueda complied and told Eyewitness News that he "learned something new."

He went onto say, "No problems, no arrest, nobody got shot or murdered."

(Excerpt) Read more at bakersfieldnow.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: banglist; ca; gun; opencarry
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To: marktwain

Dude has balls doing that in Kahleeforhnee-ah.

You can only do that in America but here....

He is going to get slapped down, Hard.


21 posted on 01/12/2010 5:24:19 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Slehn
That misses the point. California only very rarely issues concealed carry permits. (The county sheriffs, that is). Thus, concealed carry is not an option in CA. Open carry is their only recourse.

It may cause havoc among the sheeple, and an innocent person may end up getting killed by an inept policeman, but overall I approve. It's good for society.

22 posted on 01/12/2010 5:24:38 AM PST by I Buried My Guns (BLOAT: Buy Lots Of Ammo Today)
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To: CitizenUSA; RoadGumby

>> That’s about as opposite as you can get.

Yes, I know, Citizen.
RoadGumby, you are very defensive this morning.
The idea was to take the typical lib rationale and turn it back on them. It seems to be ok for their causes, to say, “you don’t like it, don’t do it.” In their cases, this reasoning extends even to murder.


23 posted on 01/12/2010 5:28:02 AM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (STOP the Tyrananny State.)
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To: doodad
"I wonder how he is carrying it unloaded in plain view AND with the magazine exposed?"

Something like this holster that has a location for the magazine.

24 posted on 01/12/2010 5:35:57 AM PST by mnehring
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To: marktwain
"The firearm has to be unloaded in plain view, and the magazine, which is an integral part of the firearm, have to be exposed, also."

What is the point of carrying an unloaded weapon?

25 posted on 01/12/2010 5:48:09 AM PST by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: pnh102
What is the point of carrying an unloaded weapon?

Ask the California politicians who created the asinine California gun laws in the first place.

26 posted on 01/12/2010 6:12:42 AM PST by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: I Buried My Guns

My point is that California is wrong and concealed carry is preferrable and more effective than open.

I actually find open carry to be weird. It’s got to be extremely unnerving for many, many people and creates an odd dynamic, in my opinion. Concealed carry is preferable because ignorance on the part of those who would be unnerved is bliss. Why make them crazy and even more anti-gun than they might already be?

I don’t know what the stats indicate but intuitively, it makes perfect sense that criminals will be on their heels when the possibility exists that would be victims may, in fact, have the ability to defend themselves. In California or any other open carry state, no sidearm = easy target.


27 posted on 01/12/2010 6:23:12 AM PST by Slehn
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To: marktwain
Is it OK to speak freely in a park, or is that Constitutional right also illegal?


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

28 posted on 01/12/2010 6:27:08 AM PST by The Comedian (Evil can only succeed if good men don't point at it and laugh.)
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To: Slehn
"I actually find open carry to be weird. It’s got to be extremely unnerving for many, many people and creates an odd dynamic, in my opinion. Concealed carry is preferable because ignorance on the part of those who would be unnerved is bliss. Why make them crazy and even more anti-gun than they might already be?"

The whole point of the open carry movement is to inoculate the "nervous Nellies" so as to have them NOT see someone openly carrying a gun as "scary".

Criminals carry concealed.

29 posted on 01/12/2010 6:41:53 AM PST by Wonder Warthog
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To: Slehn
I approve of people being unnerved. Those people are ignorant liberals who live in a fantasy world. To see a gun in public, carried by a law-abiding citizen, is a slap in the face to them. A slap from reality, that is.

An odd dynamic? No doubt. But liberals will get used to it. We must not let them set the agenda for our lives any longer, as they view the world as a child would.

30 posted on 01/12/2010 6:45:48 AM PST by I Buried My Guns (BLOAT: Buy Lots Of Ammo Today)
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To: mnehring

Ok, that is what I have too, but did not know if that met the definition of “exposed” magazine. Most of it is coverend.


31 posted on 01/12/2010 6:46:11 AM PST by doodad
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To: Thermalseeker

A hammer only becomes an assault hammer in the hands of an assault carpenter. Never mess with a carpenter who has his tools with him.


32 posted on 01/12/2010 6:48:31 AM PST by RipSawyer (Trying to reason with a leftist is like trying to catch sunshine in a fish net at midnight.)
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To: marktwain
[ "The firearm has to be unloaded in plain view, and the magazine, which is an integral part of the firearm, have to be exposed, also."

Ah! the mexifornian Barney Fife Gun Law...
The Senor Fife law..

33 posted on 01/12/2010 6:50:41 AM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: hosepipe

-OR- Aunt Bea Protection Act..


34 posted on 01/12/2010 6:52:25 AM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: marktwain
"I have a lot of grandkids, and I wouldn't want them to do that," she said. "It's showing a mixed message that they could carry them."

This woman is an idiot! The message isn't mixed at all. It's very plainly that there is nothing wrong with carrying. Her grandkids probably already realize this. She's the one who needs her thinking adjusted. If she's trying to suggest that open carry is somehow encouraging her grandkids to become gang bangers she's entirely off base.

35 posted on 01/12/2010 7:24:03 AM PST by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: kickonly88
What good is it if it’s not loaded? Might as well carry a hammer.

You can carry a loaded mag on you, so you could be ready to go in 4-5 seconds. Not ideal, I grant you, but it's a start. Plus if enough people do this, and the public stops associating legal guns with blood in the streets, maybe the laws can be revised to restore sanity.

36 posted on 01/12/2010 7:26:18 AM PST by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: Wonder Warthog
"The whole point of the open carry movement is to inoculate the "nervous Nellies" so as to have them NOT see someone openly carrying a gun as "scary".

If that's the point its doomed to failure, in my opinion. Nervous Nellies are nervous Nellies and they won't change. That's just the way it is.

37 posted on 01/12/2010 7:27:18 AM PST by Slehn
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To: RipSawyer
A hammer only becomes an assault hammer in the hands of an assault carpenter.

Salt only becomes Assault Salt in the hands of a salt shaker.

38 posted on 01/12/2010 7:31:50 AM PST by Lazamataz (America has been dead for a while; It's interesting to watch the cadaver cool.)
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To: Slehn
"If that's the point its doomed to failure, in my opinion. Nervous Nellies are nervous Nellies and they won't change. That's just the way it is."

Lot's of data that says you're wrong. Even deeply seated psychological phobias can be removed. But this is just a question of reversing brainwashing by education.

39 posted on 01/12/2010 7:49:54 AM PST by Wonder Warthog
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To: marktwain
This clown is going to prompt the legislature to fix that "loophole."
40 posted on 01/12/2010 7:53:47 AM PST by Carry_Okie (The Democrats were the Slave Party then; they are the Slave Party now.)
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