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Hawaii Department of Health Actively Covering for Obama's Changed Vital Record
The Post & Email ^ | JAN. 10, 2010 | Nellie Esquire

Posted on 01/13/2010 11:41:11 AM PST by urtax$@work

HAWAII DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH ACTIVELY COVERING FOR OBAMA’S CHANGED VITAL RECORD by Nellie Esquire

(Jan. 10, 2010) — People are asking how so many terrorist red flags could be overlooked by so many. The answer is, that they have been overlooked the same way these “birther” red flags were not only overlooked, but ridiculed.

Some examples of these “Birther” red flags can be culled from the public behavior of the Hawaii Department of Health and the Hawaii Office for Information Practices, in response to public inquiry regarding Obama’s vital records, which are an essential documentary issue in establishing his citizenship status, and whether he meets the qualifications of the office of U.S. President, which not only requires that one be a U.S. Citizen, but also a natural born citizen.

Let’s list just a few cases in point.

(Excerpt) Read more at thepostemail.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: article2section1; birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; colb; hawaii; naturalborn; obama; stephen; steve; stevedunham; steven; usurper
I don,t think has been posted to FR yet. If it has, the poster should be more thoughtful in the use of keywords. This posting is a precursor to the John Charlton article: UIPA REQUEST CONFIRMS QUIP...1/12 Tuesday.
1 posted on 01/13/2010 11:41:13 AM PST by urtax$@work
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To: urtax$@work

The main way to avoid dupes is using the original title


2 posted on 01/13/2010 11:47:20 AM PST by Mount Athos (A Giant luxury mega-mansion for Gore, a Government Green EcoShack made of poo for you)
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To: urtax$@work

To prevent duplication, please use the title at the source. Thanks.


3 posted on 01/13/2010 11:53:24 AM PST by Admin Moderator
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To: Mount Athos

either way interesting article when you go through the whole thing.


4 posted on 01/13/2010 12:03:53 PM PST by vin-one (REMEMBER the WTC !!!!!!!!)
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To: Mount Athos

either way interesting article when you go through the whole thing.


5 posted on 01/13/2010 12:03:59 PM PST by vin-one (REMEMBER the WTC !!!!!!!!)
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To: urtax$@work

“FREE THE LONG FORM!”


6 posted on 01/13/2010 12:08:35 PM PST by Dryman ("FREE THE LONG FORM!")
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To: LucyT; BP2; hoosiermama

bttt


7 posted on 01/13/2010 12:14:15 PM PST by urtax$@work (The best kind of memorial is a Burning Memorial.........)
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To: LucyT; null and void

PING


8 posted on 01/13/2010 12:14:50 PM PST by stockpirate (Light-Skinned Dark Lord Sauron H. Obama with No Negro Dialect except if he needs it)
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To: stockpirate; urtax$@work; bgill; Whenifhow; malkee; STE=Q; rocco55; thouworm; rxsid; GOPJ; ...
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Hawaii Department of Health Actively Covering for Obama's Changed Vital Record

Hawaii Department of Health Actively Covering for Obama's Changed Vital Record

Corruption Ping.

[Thanks stockpirate and urtax$@work.]

9 posted on 01/13/2010 12:21:15 PM PST by LucyT
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To: LucyT

It’s obvious. They’ve been evasive and misleading from the beginning.


10 posted on 01/13/2010 12:42:00 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

Is there any record anywhere of NObama being a registered voter?

How about cencus paperwork? Your birthplace was a question on those forms in the past- don’t know about this year’s form.


11 posted on 01/13/2010 12:44:18 PM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: Red Steel

Is there any record anywhere of NObama being a registered voter?

How about census paperwork? Your birthplace was a question on those forms in the past- don’t know about this year’s form.


12 posted on 01/13/2010 12:46:47 PM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: ridesthemiles

The last released census was the 1930. They must be over 70 years old before they can be released.


13 posted on 01/13/2010 12:55:07 PM PST by ASA Vet (Iran should have ceased to exist Nov 5, 1979, but we had no president then either.)
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To: urtax$@work

Its a shame that the Republican Governor of Hawaii and the Republican Attorney General of Hawaii haven’t been more helpful with these issues. The Director of the Hawaii Health Department, Dr. Fukino is an appointee and an employee of Governor Lingle.


14 posted on 01/13/2010 1:10:33 PM PST by jamese777
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To: urtax$@work

Someone should call Glenn Beck.....wait, he thinks Birthers are Liberals....

BTW Great article....thanks for posting


15 posted on 01/13/2010 1:18:00 PM PST by UCFRoadWarrior (No Illegal Alien Amnesty.....Never)
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To: UCFRoadWarrior

Well, the original birther was a liberal, and a Hillary supporter.

But the libs like to pretend it’s a right-wing thing.


16 posted on 01/13/2010 1:20:00 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: Red Steel

Yes.... as if they are innocent and pure as the wind driven snow ... mega sarcasm ..


17 posted on 01/13/2010 1:21:16 PM PST by American Constitutionalist (There is no civility in the way the Communist/Marxist want to destroy the USA)
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To: urtax$@work

the DOH was forced in September of 2009 to reveal that Obama’s original birth certificate had been amended and that Obama or his representative has paid a fee to have his certificate amended. This admission was made in the form of a denial on August 18, 2009 to a UIPA request to release such accompanying documents for the amended filing. According to the OIP Manual, a State Agency can only deny the release of documents which actually exist; if they do not exist, they must explicitly say that they do not exist.

Since all Amendments must be noted on the certificate, an alleged image of an Obama COLB, which does not bear the word “Amended” is a forgery; and since the COLBs bear no such indication, the DOH must have known, this entire time, that both the Factcheck.org and Fight the Smears COLB’s are forgeries.


18 posted on 01/13/2010 1:29:32 PM PST by tutstar (Baptist Ping list - freepmail me to get on or off.)
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To: tutstar

Where are the COLB loving Trolls?

We birthers should ZOT them with your post every time they bring up the phony COLB.


19 posted on 01/13/2010 1:51:36 PM PST by JohnnyP
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To: urtax$@work
I haven't had time to check all the claims in this article. However, just for the heck of it, I checked the very first one it makes and I found it to be incorrect.

Specifically, the article claims:

1. Hawaii Department of Health Director Fukino made no mention — until November of 2009 — of the existence of the DOH Administrative Rule showing that election officials could have received a copy of Obama’s original birth certificate without his permission. ... [T]he current rules – Chapter 8b, 2.5(A)(1)(f) – would allow any election officer overseeing the placement of Obama’s name on the ballot to receive a certified copy.

So I went and I read Chapter 8b, 2.5 (A) (1) (f), and it allows nothing of the kind.

Here's what it says:

2.5 Eligibility for Copies of Birth Certificates
A. Standard Copy. A certified copy of the original birth certificate on file with the Department of Health as described in paragraph 2.4B(1) may be issued to:

(1) The registrant, his descendants, his authorized agent, or upon order of a court of competent jurisdiction. "Authorized Agent" means:

...(f) A government agency acting on behalf of the registrant to process a financial claim, beneft, award, or other compensation or to transact official business involving the registrant or his affairs.

Sorry, but there's no way any rational person, even using the loosest, most creative method of legal interpretation, could possibly construe the above to mean that an election officer placing Obama on the ballot has a right to access his birth certificate.

Given how the article makes a huge factual error so quickly, right off the bat, I really don't have much confidence that anything else it says is accurate.

20 posted on 01/13/2010 2:02:55 PM PST by curiosity
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To: urtax$@work

21 posted on 01/13/2010 2:48:50 PM PST by NoLibZone (Be of good cheer, could have been worse - McCain could have won! Right?)
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To: curiosity
I find your conclusion suspect in that according to your statement you did not bother to look at much of anything in the entire article except the one item that would support your post.

Had you looked right next to it...

But HRS 338-18(a) allows state laws and DOH rules to govern the disclosure of vital records,...

You would have clearly see the following;


(f) Subject to this section, the department may direct its local agents to make a return upon filing of birth, death, and fetal death certificates with them, of certain data shown to federal, state, territorial, county, or municipal agencies. Payment by these agencies for these services may be made as the department shall direct.
(g) The department shall not issue a verification in lieu of a certified copy of any such record, or any part thereof, unless it is satisfied that the applicant requesting a verification is:
(1) A person who has a direct and tangible interest in the record but requests a verification in lieu of a certified copy;
(2) A governmental agency or organization who for a legitimate government purpose maintains and needs to update official lists of persons in the ordinary course of the agency’s or organization’s activities;
(3) A governmental, private, social, or educational agency or organization who seeks confirmation of a certified copy of any such record submitted in support of or information provided about a vital event relating to any such record and contained in an official application made in the ordinary course of the agency’s or organization’s activities by an individual seeking employment with, entrance to, or the services or products of the agency or organization;
(4) A private or government attorney who seeks to confirm information about a vital event relating to any such record which was acquired during the course of or for purposes of legal proceedings; or
(5) An individual employed, endorsed, or sponsored by a governmental, private, social, or educational agency or organization who seeks to confirm information about a vital event relating to any such record in preparation of reports or publications by the agency or organization for research or educational purposes. [L 1949, c 327, §22; RL 1955, §57-21; am L Sp 1959 2d, c 1, §19; am L 1967, c 30, §2; HRS §338-18; am L 1977, c 118, §1; am L 1991, c 190, §1; am L 1997, c 305, §5; am L 2001, c 246, §2]

That is probably the reason the author put the link in there ya know, so, like, you can actually click on it to see the info...

22 posted on 01/13/2010 5:14:15 PM PST by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: JohnnyP

We could use troll spray too! 8^)


23 posted on 01/13/2010 6:25:41 PM PST by tutstar (Baptist Ping list - freepmail me to get on or off.)
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To: tutstar

This is fun:
http://www.majman.net/flyswatter/


24 posted on 01/13/2010 6:33:16 PM PST by JohnnyP
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To: tutstar

Question:
How would his purported adoption in Indonesia affect this? The reason I ask is that I am adopted, and any copy I get of my (Amended) Birth Certificate does NOT have the word “Amended” on it. The information re: my parents are merely substituted, and one cannot tell that I was ever adopted from simply looking at a legal, certified copy of my birth certificate.

Was there any indication of when the amending took place, btw?

Please note: I am a supporter of the work Polarik did in his image analysis. I’m not doubting the certificate is almost assuredly bogus. I’m just keeping in mind that there are many reasons for an amended certificate, and if done because of his adoption then the record of the amendment would be there, but the originals would be sealed (not by Obama, but by law).


25 posted on 01/13/2010 6:57:59 PM PST by LibertyRocks (Anti-Obama Gear: http://cafepress.com/NO_ObamaBiden08)
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To: LibertyRocks

I think the reason those adoption papers are wanted is to see what name is on it. I don’t know if they would list place of birth or not. I guess it might depend upon the country where the adoption took place as to what info would be on the papers.


26 posted on 01/13/2010 7:34:47 PM PST by tutstar (Baptist Ping list - freepmail me to get on or off.)
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To: All

JB Williams
Canada Free Press

http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/12999

(snip)
Every member of the Supreme Court, every member of congress, every member of the Joint Chiefs, most members of the DOD, CIA, FBI, Secret Service and state run media, ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, PBS, NPR, MSNBC, Fox and print news, knows that Barack Hussein Obama does NOT meet Article II – Section I constitutional requirements for the office he holds. By his own biography, there is NO way he can pass the test. The hard evidence is so far beyond overwhelming, it is ridiculous.

(snip)
But not ONE member of America’s most powerful people will dare confront Obama and his anti-American cabal on the subject. The Constitution does NOT stand.

(snip)
Half of the people you expect to stop this insanity are quiet co-conspirators in the silent coup. The other half is paralyzed by fear, motivated only by political self-preservation.

(Snip)
Americans keep asking what they can do because they see that none of their leaders are doing anything to stop the demise of their beloved country. It’s the right question, because those leaders are NOT going to stop this thing.

(Snip)
WHO WILL SAVE FREEDOM?
A brave few… This is how it was in the beginning, how it has always been and how it will be.

(Snip)
DR. ORLY TAITZ, Phil Berg and Gary Kreep, ALL OF WHOM HAVE MADE DEFENDING THE CONSTITUTION AND THE AMERICAN WAY OF LIFE A PERSONAL AMBITION, IN THE ABSENCE OF ANY CONSTITUTION LEADERSHIP.

(Snip)
A PRECIOUS FEW, BUT THEY EXIST… and the walls are indeed closing in on Obama and his evil cabal. IF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE FAIL TO GET BEHIND THESE BRAVE FEW WHO ARE SEEKING PEACEFUL REDRESS, ALL THE PEACEFUL OPTIONS WILL EVAPORATE AS IF THEY NEVER EXISTED. WE WILL RETURN TO A PRE-1776 AMERICA OVERNIGHT..

Do YOU fear Obama?
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/12999

___________________________________

A precious few, indeed. Lets get behind those few brave patriots who are out there in the trenches every day working to prove Obama’s inelgibility:

Dr. Orly has put her life’s blood into this fight. SHE HAS MADE DEFENDING THE CONSTITUTION AND THE AMERICAN WAY OF LIFE A PERSONAL AMBITION, IN THE ABSENCE OF ANY CONSTITUTION LEADERSHIP FROM COWARDLY REPUBLICANS AND THE SCOTUS.

Dr. Orly is the ONLY one out there in the trenches EVERY day hitting Obama on multiple fronts and trying to bring him down. It is reported that she is more than $8,000 in debt from using her own funds for expenses in her flights across the U.S for interviews, speeches, serving papers and meeting with officials.

She has even gone to Isreal and Russia to spread the message about Obama’s inelgibility!

She states the case expertly, including the bc and natural born citizen aspect, when not abused by the U.S. state-controlled media. http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/132880

Sure, Dr. Orly makes mistakes. We all do. But Dr. Orly is no dummy. How many of us could go to a foreign country, learn 5 languages, establish a successful dental practice, a successful real estate business AND pass the California state bar- one of the hardest in the U.S. to pass?
She may be a ‘mail order’ attorney and not a Harvard lawyer, but she IS an attorney with all the rights and privilages of a Harvard lawyer nevertheless!
The point is; she has the passion, the zeal, the courage of her convictions and the love of America and its freedoms (unlike many of our ‘great’ attorneys and ‘patriots’ who criticize her) that will not let her give up!
She is exhausted. She is nervous. She is frustrated. It is reported that she gets by on 4-5 hours of sleep per night, and her family is very worried about her health- as well as her safety.
She makes mistakes. But she will NOT give up. She will keep on until she gets it right.

So let’s get behind this great little Russian refugee and great American patriot.
Stop tearing her apart. The Obots on FR don’t need our help.
The obots are scared to death of this little lady and her determination. That’s why they come out in droves all over the net on forums, chat rooms and even the national news to attack and ridicule.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcChG5pRTOE&feature=player_embedded

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27 posted on 01/13/2010 8:01:18 PM PST by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: urtax$@work
0bamas’ hidden records: Why are these off limits?

1 Certified copy of original birth certificate
2 Columbia University transcripts
3 Columbia thesis paper
4 Campaign donor analysis requested by 7 major watchdog groups
5 Harvard University transcripts
6 Illinois State Senate records
7 Illinois State Senate schedule
8 Law practice client list and billing records/summary
9 Locations and names of all half-siblings and step-mother
10 Medical records (only the one page summary released so far)
11 Occidental College Transcripts
12 Parent’s marriage Certificate
13 Record of baptism
14 Selective Service registration records
(Did Obama Actually Register for Selective Service?
This supposed revelation of 0's SS records has been debunked here and here.)
15 Schedules for trips outside of the United States before 2007
16 Passport records for all passports
17 Scholarly articles
18 SAT and LSAT test scores
19 Access to his grandmother in Kenya
20 List of all campaign workers that are lobbyists
21 Punahou grade school records
22 Noelani Kindergarten records are oddly missing from the the State of Hawaii Department of Education.
23 Page 11 of Stanley Ann Dunham's divorce decree.
24 Why did Barack Obama resign from the Illinois bar and where are all of the relevant documents?
25 Why did Michelle Obama resign from the Illinois bar after only about four years of practice and where are all of the relevant documents?

Anyone who cares about their country would be very concerned that a POTUS had hidden every scrap of information of his life that he possibly could.

28 posted on 01/13/2010 9:08:05 PM PST by TigersEye (Tar & feathers! Pitchforks and torches! ... Get some while supplies last.)
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To: tutstar

Or we could use this!!!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2425019/posts?page=237#237


29 posted on 01/13/2010 10:47:16 PM PST by danamco
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To: urtax$@work

Ping for later.


30 posted on 01/13/2010 11:18:31 PM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid!)
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To: NoLibZone; LucyT; potlatch; ExTexasRedhead; NYchick

SEE # 21


31 posted on 01/13/2010 11:58:02 PM PST by bitt (You can’t make a weak man strong by making a strong man weak (Abraham Lincoln))
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To: urtax$@work
1. Hawaii Department of Health Director Fukino made no mention — until November of 2009 — of the existence of the DOH Administrative Rule showing that election officials could have received a copy of Obama’s original birth certificate without his permission. The DOH has said they can’t release any records without Obama’s permission. But HRS 338-18(a) allows state laws and DOH rules to govern the disclosure of vital records, and the current rules – Chapter 8b, 2.5(A)(1)(f) – would allow any election officer overseeing the placement of Obama’s name on the ballot to receive a certified copy.

Am I to understand from this that any Secretary of State of the 50 states could have requested and received a copy of Obama's BC???

32 posted on 01/14/2010 4:34:22 AM PST by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: urtax$@work

btt


33 posted on 01/14/2010 11:31:35 AM PST by opentalk
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To: TLI
I find your conclusion suspect in that according to your statement you did not bother to look at much of anything in the entire article except the one item that would support your post.

I don't have time to check everything, nor do I have time to read everything. That's why when I see the very first claim in an article to be wrong, I generally don't bother with the rest of the article.

And no, the section of the rules you quote doesn't support the article's first claim, either.

34 posted on 01/14/2010 12:39:16 PM PST by curiosity
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To: Uncle Chip
Am I to understand from this that any Secretary of State of the 50 states could have requested and received a copy of Obama's BC???

That's what the author is claiming. Unfortunately, the claim is incorrect. See post #20.

35 posted on 01/14/2010 12:41:04 PM PST by curiosity
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To: bitt

Thanks bitt.


36 posted on 01/14/2010 3:30:09 PM PST by potlatch (- What a co-inky-dink-)
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To: LibertyRocks
Please note: I am a supporter of the work Polarik did in his image analysis. I’m not doubting the certificate is almost assuredly bogus.

You are aware that Polarik himself was shown to be bogus? That he never was a document expert, that he made up several of the degrees he claimed to possess, and that he faked at least one image?

37 posted on 01/14/2010 3:31:33 PM PST by LorenC
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To: curiosity
. "I don't have time to check everything, nor do I have time to read everything."

And from your FR Homepage...

" Recently I've become somewhat obcessed with debunking birthers."

Looking at your posts it appears that you might think of finding some other interests here. You seem to be stuck in the "not born in HI" argument which is not the issue. That is old news. But your last 100 or so posts seem to be "birther" issue only. You are right, it looks obsessive.

FYI, the indicated statue from HRS 338-18(a) does exactly what the author indicates. That is why HI made it law.

And try hopping on a different thread now and then. Looks like you could use some fresh air.

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38 posted on 01/15/2010 6:20:44 AM PST by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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