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Jay Leno may walk out on NBC, too
New York Post ^ | January 13, 2010

Posted on 01/13/2010 12:03:26 PM PST by La Lydia

Edited on 01/13/2010 12:08:09 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

TV funnyman Jay Leno is "furious" with how NBC has treated him and Conan O'Brien and is reportedly considering walking away from the network. A day after O'Brien threatened to walk away from NBC, Leno is considering doing the same.


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Serve NBC right if both of them bailed to other networks.
1 posted on 01/13/2010 12:03:31 PM PST by La Lydia
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To: La Lydia

NBC, MSNBC, CNBC just need to go away. WHo cares


2 posted on 01/13/2010 12:05:19 PM PST by GoCards ("We eat therefore we hunt...")
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To: La Lydia

IMO, Jay Leno is totally to blame for all this mess. He is the one who announced he was retiring a few years ago, which forced NBC to name Conan as his replacement. Then, Jay decided he did not want to retire, so they gave him that prime time slot. All Jay’s fault in my mind.


3 posted on 01/13/2010 12:05:57 PM PST by 999replies
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To: La Lydia

The Obama Administration has to be worried. If the suits at NBC can pull the plug on their support for celebrities they’ve established and who in return earn them billions....


4 posted on 01/13/2010 12:06:17 PM PST by a fool in paradise (Al Gore was more concerned with the evil influence of heavy metal than that of radical Imam.)
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To: GoCards

Chris Matthews is waiting for the ratings to drop low enough on NBC that he can take over the Tonight Show.


5 posted on 01/13/2010 12:07:09 PM PST by a fool in paradise (Al Gore was more concerned with the evil influence of heavy metal than that of radical Imam.)
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To: La Lydia

Leno hinted the other day that he might be going to Fox. If he does, I think Fox will steal that slot from the LSM as well.


6 posted on 01/13/2010 12:07:41 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (The Second Amendment. Don't MAKE me use it.)
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To: La Lydia

My wife watched Leno last night (to see Sandra Bullock). She said Leno appeared distracted and not at all focused on the program.

This has been a disaster for NBC, but I’m not shedding any tears for them. They are just a big communist media front, and they are going to fail just like any other communist business enterprise. They make their own bad luck.


7 posted on 01/13/2010 12:08:10 PM PST by henkster (A broken government does not merit full faith and credit.)
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To: La Lydia

You know, at least some of the blame in the case has got to lodge with the ‘talent’. If either of them could draw flies to a corpse, then they’d both be on the shows NBC tried to format for them.

But, they can’t, so they’re gone. Of course, I actually didn’t notice them, never watched either of them, and won’t miss ‘em when they go away.

I’ll be watching fresh ‘Leverage’ (TNT) round about that time of night tonight, which MSNBC didn’t even mention as a winter fresh start today. Wonder why THAT was? [rolls eyes]


8 posted on 01/13/2010 12:08:13 PM PST by BelegStrongbow (I'm still waiting for Dear Leader to say something that isn't a lie)
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To: a fool in paradise

Bush’s fault.


9 posted on 01/13/2010 12:08:26 PM PST by Blue Turtle
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To: La Lydia

Someone at the alphabet networks should offer Craig Ferguson a “hugh and series and stuning” amount of money and move him to a prime late night spot. He’s the only funnyman in late night TV.

CBS should can Letterman and give Craig that spot.


10 posted on 01/13/2010 12:08:40 PM PST by TheConservativeParty (I have strong feelings about gun control. If there's a gun around I want to control it. -C.Eastwood.)
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To: 999replies

As I recall it, Jay was only “retiring” because NBC really didn’t want to lose Conan to another network, so they promised Conan the Tonight Show.

All I know is that the more NBC screws the pooch, THE BETTER.


11 posted on 01/13/2010 12:08:40 PM PST by Feline_AIDS (Boop boop hoop yeah!)
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To: La Lydia

I don’t watch either of them.

But Leno is being a prick. If it comes down to it...

I will watch less of Leno than I already do.

Conan is being wronged here.


12 posted on 01/13/2010 12:09:07 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (Free Republic. The BEST place anywhere to PIMP YOUR BLOG)
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To: GoCards

Mayeb they will all get talk show bailouts from Owe Bama.


13 posted on 01/13/2010 12:09:37 PM PST by WOBBLY BOB (ACORN:American Corruption for Obama Right Now)
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To: La Lydia

FOX will welcome them with open arms.


14 posted on 01/13/2010 12:09:39 PM PST by rintense (You do not advance conservatism by becoming more liberal. ~ rintense, 2006)
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To: La Lydia

I have no love for either one of those guys - I find Leno boring and Conan an also ran. that being said i really think Conan got the shaft in all of this hope NBC flounders because of this


15 posted on 01/13/2010 12:10:29 PM PST by DM1
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To: TheConservativeParty

I adore Craig! He was so wonderful with Sarah Palin, and even better with Gerard Butler.


16 posted on 01/13/2010 12:10:50 PM PST by rintense (You do not advance conservatism by becoming more liberal. ~ rintense, 2006)
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To: La Lydia

O’Brien leaves.. who cares. Leno leaves, the Peacock is in big trouble.


17 posted on 01/13/2010 12:11:35 PM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: Blood of Tyrants

I know!

Let Leno leave. And let George Lopez take his place.

lololol

Even better. Let Wanda Sykes take over.

OHHhhhhh lololololol

I’m killin me here!


18 posted on 01/13/2010 12:11:41 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (Free Republic. The BEST place anywhere to PIMP YOUR BLOG)
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To: La Lydia

They should give the Tonight Show to Dennis Miller. He’d kick Letterman’s wrinkled ass and ratings would soar, to boot.


19 posted on 01/13/2010 12:11:43 PM PST by fullchroma (Obama: GET OUT OF MY DOCTOR'S OFFICE!)
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To: TheConservativeParty

True. He’s the only one I’ve ever watched who I thought was actually funny and didn’t just have sorta funny writers.


20 posted on 01/13/2010 12:11:48 PM PST by Feline_AIDS (Boop boop hoop yeah!)
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To: henkster
This has been a disaster for NBC, but I’m not shedding any tears for them. They are just a big communist media front, and they are going to fail just like any other communist business enterprise. They make their own bad luck.

Exactly. Bad news for NBC is good news for us. The more viewers they chase away the less people see their communist propaganda. The less money NBC has available the less they can do to help Obama turn America into a socialist dictatorship.
21 posted on 01/13/2010 12:12:40 PM PST by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: 999replies

Surely some how and some way it is Bush’s fault.


22 posted on 01/13/2010 12:12:44 PM PST by listenhillary (I believe AGW is real now. It was caused by scientists and greenies LYING!)
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To: henkster

Leno is not as good in the 10PM slot as he was at 11:30, and we’d like seeing him again at 11:30. That said, however, O’Brien is absolutely awful. Doesn’t even approach being funny. No class and hateful to boot.


23 posted on 01/13/2010 12:12:50 PM PST by twigs
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To: La Lydia

Leno should be the one POed....he was told by NBC that Conan would take over....yet offered Leno the 10PM show when Conan started to get beat in the ratings at 1230AM by Craig Ferguson.

All this blaming Leno is crap. Conan’s ratings have been tanking during his 1230AM show...and now with the Tonight Show. Conan’s ratings have always been low....and it is not the fault of Leno. Leno had great ratings vs Letterman at 1130PM....and Conan still ended up getting beat by Craig Ferguson

Only a whiny-arse liberal would continue to whine along with Conan...when in fact, conan’s lack of ratings are the real problem.

I am tired of all the ignorant hate and vile directed at Leno. Had NBC kept him on The Tonight Show....none of this would be happening. The bad move was not the 10PM show for Leno....it was promising the low-rated Conan The Tonight Show


24 posted on 01/13/2010 12:13:25 PM PST by UCFRoadWarrior (No Illegal Alien Amnesty.....Never)
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To: La Lydia

I couldn’t care less what Leno does. His array of commie guests that he paraded on his show in his first weeks is one of the reasons he’s suckin’ seaweed now! Good riddance and don’t the door slam your ass on the way out!


25 posted on 01/13/2010 12:13:51 PM PST by albie
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To: henkster
Leno's show isn't bad, its just too early. He's basically doing the same thing he did at late night that worked, but isn't going to draw in the same numbers at that hour.

It was an interesting experiment, since obviously an hour or whatever of Leno is FAR cheaper to produce than scripted programming, so you don't need to have as big of numbers or ad figures to make the same or more money.

Unfortunately it didn't work.

26 posted on 01/13/2010 12:14:43 PM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: HamiltonJay
It was an interesting experiment, since obviously an hour or whatever of Leno is FAR cheaper to produce than scripted programming, so you don't need to have as big of numbers or ad figures to make the same or more money.

Unfortunately it didn't work.

Very much akin to "New Coke".

29 posted on 01/13/2010 12:16:10 PM PST by MozarkDawg
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To: 999replies

Not quite what happened. Jay wanted to retire, Conan came in, NBC’s numbers tanked, they waved tons of money at Jay to come back but he refused to take the Tonight Show back, they gave him another show instead.


30 posted on 01/13/2010 12:17:12 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Feline_AIDS
Correct. NBC was trying to have their cake and eat it too. (Looks as though they'll "eat it" alright! LOL)

Personally, I believe Conan (whatever you think of him) will end up coming out of this the big winner. If he goes to Fox, Leno returns to "Tonight", and that a$$hole Letterman stays put, I believe O'Brien captures the $$$ 18-49 demographic while the two "old" guys fight it out over the "old" viewers.

I'd still rather see Craig Ferguson on Fox.

31 posted on 01/13/2010 12:18:14 PM PST by LaybackLenny (Palin-Bachmann Overdrive 2012 - takin' care o' business!)
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To: UCFRoadWarrior

Conan has always been way way way down the list, he’s not top tier talent. He had a brief and fleeting moment of fame when he connected a bit with Gen Y as their guy... but it didn’t last and they still try to push him as high calibre... and he’s just not.

In fact, I’m hard pressed to think of anyone besides Leno who could truly draw an audience... Letterman is still out there, but he’s always been second fiddle and frankly hasn’t been entertaining for over a decade, but what are you going to replace him with?

Fallon? Conan? That other goofball retread from “The Man Show”? Be serious, they all pretty much blow.


32 posted on 01/13/2010 12:18:17 PM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: La Lydia

FOX needs to get into the late night comedy world and I’d vote for Leno to go there - much more “fair and balanced” - should show up that idiot Letterman for the no-talent, misogynistic jerk he really is...


33 posted on 01/13/2010 12:19:59 PM PST by matginzac
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To: a fool in paradise

“The Obama Administration has to be worried.”

I wouldn’t be surprised if Rahm hasn’t already entered into talks to get Blago this hosting spot so that Rod doesn’t spill the beans on Obama and Rahm in his upcoming trial. In the best case, Blago’s buffoonry is a great success: he’s happy and keeps his yap shut, NBC’s happy and this presumably is reflected in grateful political contributions to Obama’s coffers, which clearly would make Rahm and Obama happy.

In the worst case, Blago commits a series of gaffes that simply further erodes his credibility in the eyes of the public. He gets dumped, tries to rat out Obama and Rahm, but the jury just figures that it’s either sour grapes or that Blago’s a loon who’d say anything to save his own skin. This is a classic win-win-win situation.


34 posted on 01/13/2010 12:21:34 PM PST by DrC
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To: La Lydia

I’ll watch Jay wherever is shows up. If he retires, it won’t be long before he gets board and restless. It’s good to see the legacy media continue to weaken.


35 posted on 01/13/2010 12:21:40 PM PST by cicero2k
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To: MozarkDawg

Well I bet you that Leno’s show is still making more profit for the network than the scripted programming that used to fill the slot... but the network is getting crushed by affiliates who are POd!

Local affilliates bread and butter is NEWS... and with a lower viewed show proceding their 11pm news, their ratings are down and their revenues are hurting.

I don’t know the numbers for a fact, but I bet that profitability wise for NBC directly Leno at 10 is making as much if not more $$ for the network than the scripted programming it replaced.

Its also creating an affiliate revolt.

I’m sure someone here is closer to this than me, but the production cost for an hour of Leno is peanuts, compared to the cost of a scripted show.


36 posted on 01/13/2010 12:22:57 PM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: HamiltonJay

I take that back, you get John Stewart and steal him from Comedy Central and get him on a network and stay out of his way and let him do his thing, you’d have an absolute knockout.

But other than him and Leno, I just don’t see anyone else out there.


37 posted on 01/13/2010 12:25:07 PM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: HamiltonJay

Whatever happened to the days you could just turn on the Lawrence Welk show and peacefully fall to sleep?


38 posted on 01/13/2010 12:25:51 PM PST by UCANSEE2
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To: La Lydia

One of them is going to have the slot if they don’t split it. Seems like Leno’s just matching threats.


39 posted on 01/13/2010 12:25:59 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: La Lydia

I was disappointed with FOX supposedly courting Conan (D lister), but if they could snag Leno....!


40 posted on 01/13/2010 12:26:12 PM PST by DGHoodini (Iran Azadi!)
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To: cicero2k

How many cars and motorcycles can a guy collect ?


41 posted on 01/13/2010 12:26:40 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Impeachment !)
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To: GoCards
"NBC, MSNBC, CNBC just need to go away. WHo cares"

The people who watch the networks you've mentioned - and in totality, that's still a significant number of people - all care, and many of those people vote. While it may be popular in conservative circles to dismiss the happening in the television wars, as a practical political matter, the late-night shows, especially at election time, sway more voters than we'd probably like to admit.

I personally believe that none of the late-night comics are balanced, some are less biased than others. Leno is probably the closest to being a moderate. Hopefully, he'll return to late-night and once again, displace Letterman who has really grown in popularity the last year - despite of his personal travails and war of insults against Palin's and her family. Anything that hurts David Letterman, helps conservatives. A strong NBC late-night schedule hurts David Letterman.

42 posted on 01/13/2010 12:26:54 PM PST by OldDeckHand
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To: La Lydia
I wouldn't be a bit surprised if all this is a publicity stunt for The Olympics
43 posted on 01/13/2010 12:26:54 PM PST by ColdOne (ColdOne)
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To: LaybackLenny

I’d still rather see Craig Ferguson on Fox.

Ditto.


44 posted on 01/13/2010 12:27:41 PM PST by NoLibZone (Be of good cheer, could have been worse - McCain could have won! Right?)
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To: La Lydia

Go to Fox leno and go on at 11:30. Call it “Tonight’s Show”. :D


45 posted on 01/13/2010 12:28:00 PM PST by chris_bdba
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To: ColdOne

DING DING DING ... We MAY have a winner here!!


46 posted on 01/13/2010 12:28:25 PM PST by LaybackLenny (Palin-Bachmann Overdrive 2012 - takin' care o' business!)
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To: HamiltonJay

Conan has always been way way way down the list, he’s not top tier talent. He had a brief and fleeting moment of fame when he connected a bit with Gen Y as their guy... but it didn’t last and they still try to push him as high calibre... and he’s just not.

In fact, I’m hard pressed to think of anyone besides Leno who could truly draw an audience... Letterman is still out there, but he’s always been second fiddle and frankly hasn’t been entertaining for over a decade, but what are you going to replace him with?

Fallon? Conan? That other goofball retread from “The Man Show”? Be serious, they all pretty much blow.


Exactly....Conan’s ratings were poor on the 1230AM show. The Gen Y crowd liked him, but, they were not watching....as Craig Ferguson started beating him in the ratings at 1230PM. This is the real reason for bringing back Leno at 10PM

NBC was actually making money with the 10PM show with Leno...it was their affiliates who did not like Leno at 10PM....their late newscasts did not get the lead-in audience. NBC was tanking with Conan at 1130PM....and Letterman started beating the Tonight Show in the ratings (which he could not do vs Leno for the past 15 years).

All the other late nite hosts are supporting Conan...because they can best him in the ratings. They do not want Leno back at the Tonight Show because Leno would win in the ratings.

Fox should not pick up Conan...why spend all that money on Conan to lose to both Leno and Letterman?


47 posted on 01/13/2010 12:29:46 PM PST by UCFRoadWarrior (No Illegal Alien Amnesty.....Never)
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To: La Lydia

They’re both unfunny since Obama got into office. They’re running out of material since they won’t do a lot of jokes about Barry and his shenanigans. Hey, Jay and Conan how’s that hope and change working for YOU? If FOX were really smart they’d make Ferguson an offer. Let him do more comedy skits too.


48 posted on 01/13/2010 12:30:12 PM PST by ReneeLynn (Socialism is SO yesterday. Fascism, it*s the new black. Mmm Mmm Mmm.)
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To: UCANSEE2

Charlie Rose took over the PBS time slot.. so now you turn it on, you’ll just wind up with your blood pressure up and wondering how so many “educated” people are collectively so dumb.


49 posted on 01/13/2010 12:30:15 PM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: La Lydia

Last time I watched Leno was when Rush was on (and only that segment).

It was probably the only time I’ve turned on his program in the last ten years.

This drama bores me.


50 posted on 01/13/2010 12:32:05 PM PST by wilco200 (11/4/08 - The Day America Jumped the Shark)
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