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City to vote on assault rifle buy; Cops want an M-4 in every patrol car
El Paso, Inc. ^ | Timothy Roberts

Posted on 01/13/2010 3:15:33 PM PST by greatdefender

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1 posted on 01/13/2010 3:15:37 PM PST by greatdefender
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To: greatdefender

I want an M-4 in each of my vehicles (or two, or three) ;-)


2 posted on 01/13/2010 3:17:34 PM PST by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a U.S. Army Infantry Soldier whose wife is expecting twins SONS.)
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To: greatdefender

Not really sure about the need for an M-4 in every car, but $674.80 per rifle is at least a reasonable price.


3 posted on 01/13/2010 3:17:53 PM PST by Domandred (Fdisk, format, and reinstall the entire .gov system.)
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I believe, given what is happening in Cd. Juarez and given what has happened in El Paso already, that this is a smart move. I am glad the price is right.


4 posted on 01/13/2010 3:20:41 PM PST by La Lydia
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To: greatdefender

Here again we have Federal Funds being used to up arm the local police. Bad Idea. If the city of El Paso and it’s elected leaders want to arm the police to that level fine, let them do it with local money. God himself, and Mayors office knows what strings are attached to those M4’s, and the Federal money that bought them. I for one don’t want the local governments armed like the 101st Airborne.


5 posted on 01/13/2010 3:20:50 PM PST by DariusBane (Even the Rocks shall cry out "Hobamma to the Highest")
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To: greatdefender

Get rid of the illegals and enforce the borders will cut down on the violence. Might need all those evil assault rifles for the border, though.


6 posted on 01/13/2010 3:21:27 PM PST by dynachrome (Barack Hussein Obama yunikku khinaaziir!)
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To: greatdefender

Did anyone notice how an article about guns became an article about soldiers shooting people?


7 posted on 01/13/2010 3:23:52 PM PST by Waverunner ( "Think for yourselves and let others enjoy the privilege to do so too." Voltaire)
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To: greatdefender

A high-caliber weapon would be .408 and up.

Anybody can use a firearm. The question is about proficiency.


8 posted on 01/13/2010 3:26:38 PM PST by wastedyears (If I'm going out, I'm going out like Major Kong.)
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To: dynachrome

You don’t need M4’s if you could at least mine the border with bouncing betty’s...


9 posted on 01/13/2010 3:27:00 PM PST by max americana
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To: DariusBane

SO instead you want to see dead police?
in some instances the police have to armed like this. It isnt mayberry there.
I also believe that honest people have the same right to buy the rifles themselves to defend hearth and home.


10 posted on 01/13/2010 3:27:46 PM PST by Yorlik803 (better to die on your feet than live on your knees.)
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To: greatdefender

The M-4 has a shorter barrel than the M-16. Maybe the 16’s would be a bit more accurate?


11 posted on 01/13/2010 3:30:41 PM PST by rbosque (11 year Freeper! Stock up on weapons while you have the chance.)
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SEMI-automatic rifles do not, in any way, arm somebody “like the 101st Airborne”.

I have THREE of these rifles, in various configurations.

IMHO, EVERY cop should have access to a semi-automatic rifle, if trained.


12 posted on 01/13/2010 3:33:06 PM PST by SJSAMPLE
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SEMI-automatic rifles do not, in any way, arm somebody “like the 101st Airborne”.

I have THREE of these rifles, in various configurations.

IMHO, EVERY cop should have access to a semi-automatic rifle, if trained.


13 posted on 01/13/2010 3:33:07 PM PST by SJSAMPLE
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but $674.80 per rifle is at least a reasonable price.

That's a great price. Just the upper assembly alone is selling for that.

14 posted on 01/13/2010 3:33:10 PM PST by Nachoman (Think of life as an adventure you don't survive.)
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To: rbosque

Not by any appreciable measure.
The longer sight radius helps at the far end of the rifle’s effective range, but the use of optics (compact scopes or red-dot sights) negate this advantage. And the M-4 is much more compact for somebody in a vehicle.


15 posted on 01/13/2010 3:35:05 PM PST by SJSAMPLE
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To: rbosque
M4 is just fine. The barrel length is usually 16" and it's mainly a close-quarters weapon. It will still reach out and touch someone at 500 yards.

Personally, I'm a fan of the mid-lengths and that's what I'm using on my current build.
16 posted on 01/13/2010 3:37:05 PM PST by randomhero97 ("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
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My son is building an M-16, he bought the lower trigger housing group. I was thinking of doing the same, particularly since we live in California and they’re Nazis here. The A4 version of he M-4 would be nice.


17 posted on 01/13/2010 3:38:13 PM PST by rbosque (11 year Freeper! Stock up on weapons while you have the chance.)
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To: DariusBane
If the city of El Paso and it’s elected leaders want to arm the police to that level fine, let them do it with local money.

Actually if you would just let them carry one most officers would purchase their own. You would also have less lost or stolen weapons if the officer owned it.

18 posted on 01/13/2010 3:38:21 PM PST by usurper (Liberals GET OFF MY LAWN)
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SEMI-automatic rifles do not, in any way, arm somebody “like the 101st Airborne”.

Well, if they start outfitting SAWs in departments then I might start getting concerned.
19 posted on 01/13/2010 3:38:31 PM PST by randomhero97 ("First you want to kill me, now you want to kiss me. Blow!" - Ash)
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To: greatdefender

Why do so many, including some LEOs, have such a hard-on for the M4? Short barrel equals crazy muzzle blast and a huge loss of ballistic energy from a cartridge with none to spare. Our guys who carry this weapon overseas have lots of other stuff including crew-served and explosive ordnance that will reach out to the bad guys.

For a domestic LEO who just might get caught out all by himself there are better rifles than the M4 to hunker down with.


20 posted on 01/13/2010 3:39:50 PM PST by SBprone
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