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1 posted on 01/13/2010 3:15:37 PM PST by greatdefender
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I want an M-4 in each of my vehicles (or two, or three) ;-)


2 posted on 01/13/2010 3:17:34 PM PST by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a U.S. Army Infantry Soldier whose wife is expecting twins SONS.)
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To: greatdefender

Not really sure about the need for an M-4 in every car, but $674.80 per rifle is at least a reasonable price.


3 posted on 01/13/2010 3:17:53 PM PST by Domandred (Fdisk, format, and reinstall the entire .gov system.)
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To: greatdefender

Here again we have Federal Funds being used to up arm the local police. Bad Idea. If the city of El Paso and it’s elected leaders want to arm the police to that level fine, let them do it with local money. God himself, and Mayors office knows what strings are attached to those M4’s, and the Federal money that bought them. I for one don’t want the local governments armed like the 101st Airborne.


5 posted on 01/13/2010 3:20:50 PM PST by DariusBane (Even the Rocks shall cry out "Hobamma to the Highest")
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To: greatdefender

Get rid of the illegals and enforce the borders will cut down on the violence. Might need all those evil assault rifles for the border, though.


6 posted on 01/13/2010 3:21:27 PM PST by dynachrome (Barack Hussein Obama yunikku khinaaziir!)
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To: greatdefender

Did anyone notice how an article about guns became an article about soldiers shooting people?


7 posted on 01/13/2010 3:23:52 PM PST by Waverunner ( "Think for yourselves and let others enjoy the privilege to do so too." Voltaire)
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To: greatdefender

A high-caliber weapon would be .408 and up.

Anybody can use a firearm. The question is about proficiency.


8 posted on 01/13/2010 3:26:38 PM PST by wastedyears (If I'm going out, I'm going out like Major Kong.)
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To: greatdefender

The M-4 has a shorter barrel than the M-16. Maybe the 16’s would be a bit more accurate?


11 posted on 01/13/2010 3:30:41 PM PST by rbosque (11 year Freeper! Stock up on weapons while you have the chance.)
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To: greatdefender

Why do so many, including some LEOs, have such a hard-on for the M4? Short barrel equals crazy muzzle blast and a huge loss of ballistic energy from a cartridge with none to spare. Our guys who carry this weapon overseas have lots of other stuff including crew-served and explosive ordnance that will reach out to the bad guys.

For a domestic LEO who just might get caught out all by himself there are better rifles than the M4 to hunker down with.


20 posted on 01/13/2010 3:39:50 PM PST by SBprone
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If they need the firepower okay. But why buy such a lousy rifle?


23 posted on 01/13/2010 3:41:11 PM PST by Seruzawa (If you agree with the French raise your hand - If you are French raise both hands.)
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Every cop want to look Tacti-Cool dont they....
I use a 16” barrel with the A2 stock,, not quite an M4gery.
Whats wrong with the Mini-14s they all had to have years ago?


28 posted on 01/13/2010 3:47:55 PM PST by ▀udda▀udd (7 days - 7 ways Guero >>> with a floating, shifting, ever changing persona.....)
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To: greatdefender
Back in the Clinton Administration, our wonderful president destroyed thousands of M14 Rifles. This was stupidity squared, but not untypical of Bill Clinton.

I said at the time that the government could give these weapons to Law Enforcement at no cost. They could have been modified to be semi automatic for law enforcement purposes. If the police in the North Hollywood shootout had had just one of these rifles, the whole incident would have been over in no time.

These would be good weapons for our law enforcement at no charge. Now the police (tax payers) are going to have to pay top dollar for M4. What a waste Bill Clinton was.
34 posted on 01/13/2010 4:00:56 PM PST by truthguy (Good intentions are not enough!)
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“If you add to that a population coming back from an extremely violent environment integrating with the civilian population, we want to make sure that the police department has all the resources it needs to make us the safest city in the nation.”

Incompetano would be sooooo proud. They read her memo. They really did.

Secretary Of Homeland Security – Returning Veterans Pose Terrorist Threat

35 posted on 01/13/2010 4:01:05 PM PST by NonValueAdded ("'Diversity' is one of those words designed to absolve you of the need to think." Mark Steyn)
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Nearly all police sniper shots have been under one hundred yards, so this rifle is just fine for those intermediate distances between pistol and a dedicated sniper rifle.

I have never heard of anyone who has been shot with 5.56 saying it didn’t hurt.

The females in our department prefer it over the shottie because of felt recoil.


39 posted on 01/13/2010 4:15:14 PM PST by Molon Labbie
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Peter Pacillas, assistant chief for training and special operations, does not single out soldiers for concern. He says, “Anybody who has the capability of using a high-caliber weapon is a concern for us.”

Geez Dude, you live in Texas, that's a heck of lot of people to be paranoid about. :)

Although I don't think I'd call 5.56 mm "high caliber", now 7.62 comes closer, but .50 would really be high caliber. Lot's of Texans have the latter two calibers in their "inventory".

Like these two (who are a mite older now, and the rifle actually belonged to FR's own Texas Cowboy, now standing post up yonder)

Even lil ole me (well OK BIG old me) has two 7.62 caliber rifles, no wait, three, almost forgot the (war) baby. :) I guess I better take her out for a "spin" to refresh my memory. Although I'm thinking about giving her to my wife, but maybe I can pawn the Chinese SKS off on her, it would be more effective at stopping "varmints" anyway. She wouldn't want or have use for the H&K.

53 posted on 01/13/2010 6:17:44 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: greatdefender

Since the major cause of police deaths is fratricide I think this is an industrial strength dumb idea. Most cops have the fire discipline of Arabs at a Saddam rally.


56 posted on 01/13/2010 6:26:33 PM PST by mad_as_he$$ (usff.com)
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When I was a LEO, we had a Mini-14 in every car, along with the 12 ga.


58 posted on 01/13/2010 10:09:27 PM PST by TChris ("Hello", the politician lied.)
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