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Trash piles up as St. Louis looks for ways to save money (Denver, Baltimore also run out of loot)
STL Today ^ | 1/13/10 | Jake Wagman

Posted on 01/13/2010 4:14:06 PM PST by Libloather

Trash piles up as St. Louis looks for ways to save money
By Jake Wagman
ST. LOUIS POST-DISPATCH
01/13/2010

ST. LOUIS — The next round of budget cuts at City Hall may lower costs by letting the waste pile up.

Officials facing an austere fiscal year are eyeing the Dumpster for savings, trying out a plan to reduce trash pickup from twice a week — for years the norm in the city — to once a week.

It's a shift that many smaller cities around the region — and some bigger ones across the country — have already made as their bottom line shrinks.

In St. Louis, a trial run of the abbreviated schedule has found that, yes, it saves money, but has also led to a pile of complaints.

One e-mail to the city called the situation "appalling," with bins so packed with trash the "lids are straight up in the air." Another letter pleaded: "Raise my taxes or whatever but please don't discontinue or reduce the pickups."

"People feel like they're having a service removed from them that they're owed," said Todd Waelterman, director of the city's Streets Department, which includes the Refuse Division. "They're used to this truck coming down twice a week."

MULTIPLE PICKUPS IN AREA DWINDLE

Weekly pickup is standard in Belleville, Edwardsville and Webster Groves. The same is true in Clayton, Chesterfield and Frontenac. The city of St. Charles switched to once-a-week trash pickup last year. Kirkwood and St. Peters are among the few local governments that still offer twice-weekly pickup.

Elsewhere, Denver and Baltimore — facing declining revenue — recently lightened their trash hauling schedules.

(Excerpt) Read more at stltoday.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: loot; money; stlouis; trash

JANUARY 10, 2010 - Charles Lockridge, who has worked for the City of St. Louis Refuse Division for more than thirty years, loads up trash in an alleyway off of Geyer Avenue in St. Louis. In an effort to cut costs, the city of St. Louis has launched a pilot program to test whether or not they can cut trash pick up to once a week. (John L. White/P-D)
1 posted on 01/13/2010 4:14:10 PM PST by Libloather
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To: Libloather

All those liberals should be recycling everything anyway.


2 posted on 01/13/2010 4:17:06 PM PST by johniegrad
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To: Libloather
I have to haul my own trash so what is the big deal? Hickenriddre needs to do a better job in denver. I can imagine the whole state awash in trash and such if he is elected governor of Colorado.
3 posted on 01/13/2010 4:19:14 PM PST by mountainlion (concerned conservative.)
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To: Libloather
"People feel like they're having a service removed from them that they're owed," said Todd Waelterman, director of the city's Streets Department

Ass.

They pay for the service and Todd's salary to boot.

4 posted on 01/13/2010 4:20:51 PM PST by Glenn (iamtheresistance.org)
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To: johniegrad

Liberals are the trashiest people around anyway. They are pure scum, human feces, filthy pigs. I have a number of liberal “friends” who trash & litter whereever they happen to be. Rucycling is done mainly by conservative, morally sound people... not scum of the earth demoRATs or liberal/socialists!!!


5 posted on 01/13/2010 4:21:33 PM PST by rcrngroup
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To: johniegrad

Last summer was the first time I’ve driven through St. Louis. I was shocked by the huge number of wrecked, empty brick buildings along the freeway. It looked like a war zone. I could not believe my eyes. What are those idiots doing?


6 posted on 01/13/2010 4:23:27 PM PST by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: Libloather

I’ll bet St Louis city funded diversity seminars and Gay/lesbian outreach programs are still going strong.

sarc//


7 posted on 01/13/2010 4:26:35 PM PST by Le Chien Rouge
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To: Libloather
"People feel like they're having a service removed from them that they're owed," said Todd Waelterman

Well....do some of those feelings come from paying for the service?

8 posted on 01/13/2010 4:29:53 PM PST by Psycho_Bunny (ALSO SPRACH ZEROTHUSTRA)
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To: Scotsman will be Free

Was that EAST St. Louis?


9 posted on 01/13/2010 4:30:39 PM PST by Libloather (Tea totaler, PROUD birther, mobster, pro-lifer, anti-warmer, enemy of the state, extremist....)
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To: Scotsman will be Free

If you went through East St. Louis and lived to post about it, your guardian angel must have been working overtime.


10 posted on 01/13/2010 4:31:19 PM PST by Pining_4_TX
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To: rcrngroup
Liberals are the trashiest people around anyway... I have a number of liberal “friends” who trash & litter whereever they happen to be.

Denver after the Obama annointment:


11 posted on 01/13/2010 4:32:10 PM PST by Cobra64
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To: Glenn

What in the world are these people throwing away? We’ve never had trash pick up more than once a week...and we do just fine.

Maybe they have really small dumpsters.

We used to have multiple trash companies though - you know that bad word —competition— - but the city decided that we didn’t need that, we needed one company. Well guess what, our trash bill has gone up steadily ever since. What a shock.


12 posted on 01/13/2010 4:33:04 PM PST by dnandell (I don't need no stinkin' tagline)
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To: Libloather

No. St. Louis proper. I was eastbound on the freeway coming from KC headed into Illinois. I saw all of those buildings before I got to the arch, and crossed the river into Illinois.


13 posted on 01/13/2010 4:33:28 PM PST by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: Pining_4_TX

Not East St. Louis. My buddy and I were heavily armed.


14 posted on 01/13/2010 4:35:23 PM PST by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: Libloather

I live 40 miles south of Denver and have private trash pick-up. $60 each quarter. Similar to Colorado Springs, which I think still has private pick-up.

Bet the real cost in Denver is probably 5 to 10 times that.


15 posted on 01/13/2010 4:35:49 PM PST by Balding_Eagle (If America falls, islam will cover the earth with darkness for a thousand years.)
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To: dnandell

we do twice a week here in my town.

I bet East St. Louis is still funding gay libraries, ethnic community centers et al


16 posted on 01/13/2010 4:59:01 PM PST by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards,com)
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To: Libloather
a plan to reduce trash pickup from twice a week

I've been around a long time and I don't remember twice a week pickup where I live ever. If your garbage can is full, maybe you need to buy another one, dummies. It's worked here all my life and no one complains.

17 posted on 01/13/2010 5:00:33 PM PST by Right Wing Assault (The Obama magic is fading.)
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To: Libloather; Scotsman will be Free; Pining_4_TX
Was that EAST St. Louis?

East Saint Louis is a hell hole.

Plus, it's in Illinois.


18 posted on 01/13/2010 5:08:01 PM PST by rabscuttle385 (Purge the RINOs! * http://restoretheconstitution.ning.com/)
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To: Libloather
Elsewhere, Denver and Baltimore — facing declining revenue — recently lightened their trash hauling schedules.

But, Hickenlooper still spends money on new homeless initiatives, attracting more and more to our state.

I live in a close-in suburb of Denver. No city trash removal. I pay a company which competes with other companies for my business. I pay $13.50 per month for great service. I'm sure if I were paying taxes for the privilege I would be paying at least twice as much for surly city workers to do it.

19 posted on 01/13/2010 5:09:57 PM PST by keepitreal ( Don't tread on me.)
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To: Scotsman will be Free

St. Louis has lost about half of its population in the last 50 years. I believe it was over 800,000 in 1950 and is around 400,000 now. Since St. Louis is a brick city, the buildings still stand, but are empty. Driving on I70, you’ll see a huge number of boarded up places.

The area has more people than ever—they just moved out of the city and into the suburbs. The city’s limits were frozen by state law over 100 years ago, so the city can’t grow.

High crime, poor city services and a vanishing tax base haven’t helped.


20 posted on 01/13/2010 5:20:45 PM PST by hanamizu
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To: dnandell
What in the world are these people throwing away? We’ve never had trash pick up more than once a week...and we do just fine

Same here.

I pay for pick up directly to the company that picks it up. I had Waste Management but all the green hype they spewed in their ads must have cost them a lot of money, as they raised their pick up service to around $70 per quarter. I simply switched to a different company at $45 per quarter and they have great service.

Competition is grand!

21 posted on 01/13/2010 5:35:09 PM PST by Graybeard58 ("Get lost, Mitt. You're the Eddie Haskell of the Republican party." (Finny))
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To: Right Wing Assault
I've been around a long time and I don't remember twice a week pickup where I live ever.

Do you remember twice a day mail delivery?

22 posted on 01/13/2010 5:36:36 PM PST by Graybeard58 ("Get lost, Mitt. You're the Eddie Haskell of the Republican party." (Finny))
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To: hanamizu
Good assessment. I've lived in STL my entire life and in addition to your observations it is also one of the most racially segregated cities in the country. Further up this thread somebody said they were driving E on I-70 and saw from the highway the North Side of STL. It does resemble a war zone. If they would have stayed on I-70 and transitioned to I-55, and thereby kept going South, they would have easily recognized the contrast.
23 posted on 01/13/2010 5:39:00 PM PST by OriginalChristian (If you can't get LIFE right, nothing else you think or say matters...)
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To: Graybeard58
Do you remember twice a day mail delivery?

I remember it over Christmas because I was home from school.

24 posted on 01/13/2010 5:43:12 PM PST by Right Wing Assault (The Obama magic is fading.)
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To: Libloather
The next round of budget cuts at City Hall may lower costs by letting the waste pile up.

Oh. When they talked about trash piling up in St Louis I naturally thought it was about the black panthers, SEIU and ACORN. Never mind.

25 posted on 01/13/2010 6:21:06 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: hanamizu

Thanks for the info. It sure looked different than the KC area.


26 posted on 01/13/2010 6:21:08 PM PST by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: Libloather

All this automation ... the garbage truck driver flips a lever, or two, and dumps the container into the bin. No muss, no fuss ... except, at least two people, in addition to the driver, could be employed. But, hey ... they’re collecting unemployment until it runs out. Then we go into blame Bush mode.


27 posted on 01/13/2010 6:36:13 PM PST by BluH2o
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To: Libloather

For four summers we hosted a “fresh air” kid from Harlem. Once he was sitting with us outside and tossed his head back and with his eyes closed and became quiet (not like him.) I waited for a bit and then asked “What are you doing?” He says “smelling the summer air w/o the rotten garbage smell of Harlem.”


28 posted on 01/13/2010 9:32:31 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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