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Confederacy of Fools
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Posted on 01/14/2010 9:17:29 AM PST by Neoliberalnot

Subject: A Confederacy of Fools. Author unknown.

"The danger to America is not Barack Obama but a citizenry capable of entrusting a man like him with the presidency. It will be easier to limit and undo the follies of an Obama presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their president. The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Obama, who is a mere symptom of what ails us. Blaming the prince of the fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince. The republic can survive a Barack Obama, who is, after all, merely a fool. It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools such as those who made him their president."


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KEYWORDS: confederacyoffools; election; jktoole; johnkennedytoole; obama; shipoffools; toole; vaclavklaus
Telling a left wing rat he or she is a fool will only have the effect of furthering their conviction. I know this. They deal from an emotional basis, not a rational one. We need to construct an argument that is less obtuse in order to convince the Obamugabe constituency.
1 posted on 01/14/2010 9:17:33 AM PST by Neoliberalnot
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To: Neoliberalnot
We need to construct an argument that is less obtuse in order to convince the Obamugabe constituency.

Obtuse? Is that like being nuanced? ;-)

2 posted on 01/14/2010 9:20:15 AM PST by rhombus
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To: Neoliberalnot

A Take off on Toole’s “Confederacy of Dunces” novel. If someone offers you a signed first edition, don’t buy it.


3 posted on 01/14/2010 9:21:25 AM PST by jessduntno ("The miners lock and load like the redblooded redneck NRA supporters they are." - Avatar script)
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To: Neoliberalnot
"The danger to America is not Barack Obama but a citizenry capable of entrusting a man like him with the presidency. "

It's a good opening line.

4 posted on 01/14/2010 9:21:49 AM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Neoliberalnot

There’s a good argument to be made that the ‘bama is a symptom of what’s wrong, not the cause.


5 posted on 01/14/2010 9:22:25 AM PST by Spok (Free Range Republican)
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To: Neoliberalnot
If we can't get rid of the Dept. of Education, then lets take it over. That is where the dumbing down begins.
6 posted on 01/14/2010 9:24:15 AM PST by Major Matt Mason (Marxism has no place in American society.)
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To: Neoliberalnot

—yep—when about seventy percent or so of the population doesn’t know how the water gets to the faucet, the light to the bulb or where it goes when they flush , it’s pretty difficult to have a rational discussion of real problems—


7 posted on 01/14/2010 9:26:36 AM PST by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the MSM tells you about firearms or explosives--NRA Benefactor)
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To: rhombus
No its like saying Obama and the Dems lied to you and if you continue to vote for them you are a rube being played by the tools of big business and the Pharmaceutical industry. Oh no lib wants to be that. Use their own vanity against them.

When I'm forced to argue with a liberal I use the Libertarian angle. I start with we need to keep government and corporations off our back. We need to be able to make our own choices. Then once you have them nodding along nicely sprint the facts about Obama selling out to pharma and the lawyers on healthcare. Say how he moved billions to the big banks who then foreclosed on common people. Say how his free programs are actually going to cost them real money in the form of increased fees from every business. After all those greedy businesses don't pay the taxes they just pass them on.

This won't help with the most brain dead libs, but it will get some on the margins thinking.
8 posted on 01/14/2010 9:27:17 AM PST by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: Spok

The author is correct however IMHO we’ve passed the tipping point with trying to bring the “rabble” as I call them, up to sanity and personal responsibility. Gone is initiative and accountability and it’s been replaced by an entitled victim mentality (not my fault) who are moire interested in American Idol. This unfortunately isn’t isolated to minorities although the entitlement mindset is more pervasive there. We need to expect that just “taking back the country” from the current commie crowd will not fix the problem. It will need to include getting this country back to a values based foundation. It will be a long and painful pull.


9 posted on 01/14/2010 9:29:59 AM PST by dumpthelibs (dumpthelibs)
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To: jessduntno

Good one.


10 posted on 01/14/2010 9:32:35 AM PST by Flycatcher (God speaks to us, through the supernal lightness of birds, in a special type of poetry.)
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To: rellimpank
We can even survive that, but when most of the population below 40 know almost nothing about the American Revolution, the founding, the principles and reasons for limited government, but instead elect presidents like American Idol winners, we're in deep excrement.
11 posted on 01/14/2010 9:32:58 AM PST by YankeeReb
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To: jessduntno
If someone offers you a signed first edition, don’t buy it.

Good One!

12 posted on 01/14/2010 9:33:04 AM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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To: GonzoGOP

They have a lot of fear and want to be protected. Thus they vote for Nanny Gov.


13 posted on 01/14/2010 9:36:08 AM PST by rhombus
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To: Neoliberalnot

For month I have been appending this to my e-mails:

Obama will be gone one day,
His voters will remain among us.

An ongoing problem that. It’ll need get confronted in a very personal way.
One at the time.

There are boundaries ...


14 posted on 01/14/2010 9:37:00 AM PST by Wontsubmit
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To: Major Matt Mason

Why do we need a Federal Dept. of Education at all?
Education is a States Rights thing. Most of the States to a Sucko Poor job, but it’s still a right of the States that should not be usurpted by the socialist Federal Government.


15 posted on 01/14/2010 9:37:29 AM PST by BuffaloJack (Hoax and Chains is not the same as hope and change.)
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To: jessduntno

Ha!!!


16 posted on 01/14/2010 9:38:45 AM PST by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: rhombus

My problem is, I am so angry I can’t tone down my argument with fools. They can’t be argued with.


17 posted on 01/14/2010 9:48:23 AM PST by Neoliberalnot ((Freedom's Precious Metals: Gold, Silver and Lead))
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To: Neoliberalnot

“Telling a left wing rat he or she is a fool will only have the effect of furthering their conviction.”

Exactly. You convert people with sugar not vinegar. Can the public smarten up? Only after it has been duped (I guess) — but people will still fall for strong emotion rather than logic and facts. Emotion is easy and pleasurable, facts and thinking are hard and requires work. Obama had emotional appeal on a number of levels: celebrity status for the general public, release from white man’s guilt for whites, savior of the economy and planet for workers and youth, sex appeal for women and Chris Matthews, “our boy is in” for the black community, “our boy is in” for the far left, etc. This covers a broad range of society and the appeal is emotional. When facts would have dampened the emotion tug, the MSM where quick to run interference. The public may have a short memory and, if times aren’t terrible, they may get seduced again to vote him in. We’ll see...


18 posted on 01/14/2010 10:10:03 AM PST by Blind Eye Jones
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To: jessduntno
If someone offers you a signed first edition, don’t buy it.

The way I heard it, Toole submitted his book to Simon and Schuster, but his contact turned out to be some kind of sadist. The publisher had Toole jumping all over the place; making changes, changing the changes, removing the changes, putting them back in, etc. Just torturing the guy for the fun of it, for a long time. Finally they rejected it. Evidently Toole started to fall apart right after that.

19 posted on 01/14/2010 10:10:25 AM PST by NewMexLurker
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To: Neoliberalnot
Today's self-described "progressives" are not progressive in their world view or ideology at all.

The philosophy of America's Founders was and is truly progressive, because for the first time in the history of the world it laid out a set of principles and ideas which, if embraced and incorporated into a structure for self-government, provided for the maximum degree of liberty and opportunity for individuals in a society. That was the set of ideas underlying the Declaration of Independence and the United States Constitution's provisions and limitations, and its goals were well-stated in the Constitution's Preamble.

What passes for "progressive" thought since the early 1900's is, in reality, regressive, and, in one form or another, has dominated and oppressed humankind throughout the history of civilization. It relies on "counterfeit" ideas which promise "benefits," but accumulates power among an elite ruling class of imperfect human beings, and denies the Creator-endowed life, liberty, and law which governs all.

The only progressive ideas available to American citizens today which allow liberty and opportunity are those upon which their liberty was formed in 1776 and 1787. They are the ideas which caused millions from the old world and from nations all over the world today to flee to America to participate in the "miracle of America." They have served as a "beacon of liberty" for over 200 years, and if articulated and explained to today's youth, they would be as revolutionary in 2010 as they were at the nation's founding!

The human mind and heart were made for liberty, and those who are exposed to its ideas will respond. If our citizenry is ignorant of those ideas, then it is the job of our generation--with all of our technology and abilities--to expose as many as we can to the Founders' revolutionary speeches and writings. To paraphrase a baseball thought: if we teach them, they will learn!

"Liberty and Tyranny," "Our Ageless Constitution," and other currently published texts are available for placing in churches, libraries and in the hands of family members and friends. Each of us can do something. See:

20 posted on 01/14/2010 10:23:56 AM PST by loveliberty2
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To: loveliberty2

I have a copy of liberty and tyranny. Just finished watching the John Adams mini-series. If you haven’t seen it, you must.


21 posted on 01/14/2010 10:44:27 AM PST by Neoliberalnot ((Freedom's Precious Metals: Gold, Silver and Lead))
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To: NewMexLurker

It was the funniest book I ever read. When his mom got it published after his suicide it was a VERY small print run from LA State University Press. they did a few runs and then it got picked up as it became a cult classic. I have one of the earliest editions and they are very rare. The guy was a great talent.


22 posted on 01/14/2010 10:46:18 AM PST by jessduntno ("The miners lock and load like the redblooded redneck NRA supporters they are." - Avatar script)
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To: Spok

No,no,no, The people got snookered with Obama. If he had governed like he had promised he would have worked from the center. He was an unknown quality and people thought he would be OK. They didn’t know that almost every word was an un-truth. He was helped by the Media who painted him (they still do) as the wisest, best, person around after they had spent years turning Bush and Chaney into a Monkey and a nazi. The Message of change sounded good (it still does) but the reforms Obama talked about never came. The people got a bill of goods-—They were fooled. Mark my words—no one will ever elect this poser to any job again. His magic is gone.


23 posted on 01/14/2010 10:52:10 AM PST by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

“The people got snookered with Obama.”

Conservatives listened to him speak and heard nothing but vague conclusions and promises without substance. All one could learn from his speeches was that he had a talent for convincing many to suspend critical thinking and emote, famously summed up by the moron Chris Matthews and his tingling extremity. Nearly half of all Americans who cast a vote didn’t get snookered, and the fact that a majority of the electorate fell for his Sesame Street quality dog and pony show is exactly the root problem of which he is a symptom.


24 posted on 01/14/2010 12:32:58 PM PST by Spok (Free Range Republican)
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