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Growing desperation grips Haitian capital in quake's aftermath
CNN ^ | 1/14/10 | Arthur Brice

Posted on 01/14/2010 12:53:49 PM PST by Kartographer

Sporadic gunfire was heard Wednesday night outside the hotel where CNN is lodged.

Sirens could be heard at times, but the predominant sounds in the pre-dawn darkness were the shouts and screams from the thousands of people who spent the night in a dark park across the street. A rooster's crowing could sometimes be heard above the din.
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The hotel resembles a compound, with razor wire topping eight-foot walls and a gated parking lot, guarded by a man wielding an old shotgun. And although the hotel's residents seemed safe, and street violence had not been seen, there was a feeling of apprehension.

(Excerpt) Read more at edition.cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: earthquake; gunfire; haiti; portauprince
Haita is a 'Hell Hole' in the best of times and I am thinking we ain't seen nothing yet.

Quark : Let me tell you somethingabout humans, nephew. They're a wonderful, friendly people as long astheir bellies are full and their holosuites are working. But take awaytheir creature comforts, deprive them of food, sleep, sonic showers, puttheir lives in jeopardy over an extended period of time and those samefriendly, intelligent, wonderful people become as nasty and as violent as the most blood thirsty Klingon.
1 posted on 01/14/2010 12:53:52 PM PST by Kartographer
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To: Kartographer
Haita is a 'Hell Hole' in the best of times and I am thinking we ain't seen nothing yet.

And yet they had the intelligence to allow U.S. govt. help faster than the Louisiana Democrats in the aftermath of Katrina.

2 posted on 01/14/2010 12:56:58 PM PST by TheThinker (Communists: taking over the world one kooky doomsday scenerio at a time.)
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To: Kartographer

The hotel should be evacuated of reporters and used to house the earthquake victims.

The media is disgusting for using resources at this time.


3 posted on 01/14/2010 12:57:13 PM PST by Carley (OBAMA IS A MALEVOLENT FORCE IN THE WORLD)
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To: Kartographer

Hell just got hotter. The UN is there though...things will be alright.


4 posted on 01/14/2010 12:57:35 PM PST by Dallas59 (No To O -Time is going by really really really really slow.)
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To: Kartographer

Nature did it’s part. Give it a week and we’ll see what the people do.


5 posted on 01/14/2010 1:01:19 PM PST by RobRoy (The US today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: Kartographer

Chances are more people will die after the quake than during it. Give a few days for disease, dehydration, and infected injuries to take their toll.


6 posted on 01/14/2010 1:01:44 PM PST by DogBarkTree
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To: Kartographer

Hussein is using Haiti to first of all “change the subject” from all the problems and thuggery surrounding his fascist dictatorship in-the-making and to appear compassionate, warm and fuzzy. So why should it be surprising to see CNN, MSNBC and even FOX turning the Haiti story into another Jerry’s Kids! It’s become a 24/7 “here’s how to donate” telethon. Of course no one has mentioned the fact that Haiti is a global armpit due to the rule of criminals and dictators, not because the “evil, imperialist” US has been unkind and selfish!!


7 posted on 01/14/2010 1:04:43 PM PST by Oldpuppymax (AGENDA OF THE LEFT EXPOSED)
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To: Kartographer
These are surely dark times in Haiti. But if the past is any quide, it is possible for them to recover if they have the will to do it. On All Saint's day in 1755, Lisbon was rocked by a magnitude 9 earthquake which demolished most of the city; the tsunamis and fires took care of the rest. The King's powerful minister, the Marquis de Pombal, said "What now? We bury the dead and feed the living." And then he rolled up his sleeves and set about coordinating the efforts to do just that. Within a year, a shining new Lisbon rose, grander than before, a testament to what the will of men may accomplish in the face of even the worst devestation.

I pray that the living may be fed and the survivors permitted to rebuild their lives and their homes and their nation and create a new, better Haiti without corrupt officials stealing their hope for a better future.

8 posted on 01/14/2010 1:05:18 PM PST by pepsi_junkie (Who is John Galt?)
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To: Kartographer

This just maybe too big in scope a disaster. There is no local source of water and electricity. Looks like there may not be for weeks. Every organization that comes in has to be self-sufficient. What happens when the thirst and hunger of those who number in the millions becomes too great and the only people eating well are behind razor wire?


9 posted on 01/14/2010 1:13:21 PM PST by Bad Jack Bauer (Fat and Bald? I was BORN fat and bald, thank you very much!)
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To: Kartographer
Is there a president of Haiti.....a parliament? I haven't heard word one about or from a Haitian controlling authority. What gives?

Leni

10 posted on 01/14/2010 1:15:52 PM PST by MinuteGal (Bill O'Reilly: 9/8/09: "Communism is not a threat to us anymore"-10/20/09: "Obama is not a Marxist")
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To: Kartographer

This thing is so big, so deadly and so hopeless it almost requires that all the living be evacuated and the entire area carpet bombed flat so they can start over from scratch.


11 posted on 01/14/2010 1:16:01 PM PST by paulycy (The Liberals' DOUBLE-STANDARDS are HATE CRIMES.)
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To: Kartographer
When Pres. Bush was done in New Orleans, they had a Repub mayor.

When he's done in Haiti, they may end up with a real democracy.

12 posted on 01/14/2010 1:16:35 PM PST by Siena Dreaming
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To: TheThinker
And yet they had the intelligence to allow U.S. govt. help faster than the Louisiana Democrats in the aftermath of Katrina.

No, It is the politicians who are the fastest to get their names and faces on camera etc. politicizing this tragedy...little can be done until the U.S. Marines land and take charge of the rescue efforts....Haiti when not dominated by a Dictator is a Welfare State compliments of the Black Caucus, Obama, Maxine Waters and others who keep pumping $$s into a sadly uneducated, superstitious bunch of children that rarely helps anyone but the local Patrons. Remember the 'over-kill' of pious help during Katrina? The press loved it....even in a 'civilized' country, New Orleans is far from recovery....where did that money go..Oh yeah, perky Mary would know............Haitians have been denied education that might have helped them get through this disaster...Oh that's right, people in Louisiana had 'good' educations, billions of dollars 'they said' for education....must be Bush's fault..how else can you explain............

13 posted on 01/14/2010 1:22:13 PM PST by yoe
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To: Oldpuppymax
Hussein is using Haiti to first of all “change the subject”...

Yup. The perfect circumstances for a rushed midnight healthcare vote.
14 posted on 01/14/2010 1:25:10 PM PST by SpaceBar
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To: paulycy

Not sure about the carpet bombing, but it seems to me all able-bodied people should be moved to camp areas, and the rest of the country scoured and cleaned by relief agencies. If people are in a panic everywhere, it won’t be long before they turn on those who are helping them.


15 posted on 01/14/2010 1:28:32 PM PST by rintense (You do not advance conservatism by becoming more liberal. ~ rintense, 2006)
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To: rintense
it won’t be long before they turn on those who are helping them.

This is a serious worry. A lot of hard, dirty work has to be done quickly and there doesn't seem to be a single thing working in their favor to ever get it done, much less quickly before the disease, starvation and rioting starts.

Prayers.

16 posted on 01/14/2010 1:33:13 PM PST by paulycy (The Liberals' DOUBLE-STANDARDS are HATE CRIMES.)
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To: Carley

I was making that same observation this morning.


17 posted on 01/14/2010 1:36:41 PM PST by Jaded (No act of kindness, no matter how small, ever goes unpunished. -HFG)
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To: MinuteGal

The USA has given BILLIONS in aid to that filthcraphole of a ‘country’ in the past 5 years and nothing will change until the corrupt government is sent packing.

True help would mean setting up an honest government and implementing capitalism instead of cronyism...

Just look what cronyism is doing to the USA at this very moment.

I’m sick of all this whining about Haiti...it’s been a craphole for centuries...


18 posted on 01/14/2010 1:37:55 PM PST by GRRRRR (He'll NEVER be my President, FUBO!)
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To: stevie_d_64

Are you sure??????


19 posted on 01/14/2010 1:40:56 PM PST by Ditter
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To: yoe

I haven’t seen her majesty, Ms. Jackson-Lee. How did she miss this photo op?


20 posted on 01/14/2010 1:48:38 PM PST by Jaded (No act of kindness, no matter how small, ever goes unpunished. -HFG)
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To: Kartographer
Sporadic gunfire was heard Wednesday night outside the hotel where CNN is lodged.

Hotel must have been in Chicago, Milwaukee or Baltimore, maybe Philadelphia...

21 posted on 01/14/2010 1:54:30 PM PST by Last Dakotan
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To: Oldpuppymax
Hussein is using Haiti to first of all “change the subject”

They are going to try to ram the health care bill through while everyone is distracted with Haiti.

22 posted on 01/14/2010 1:59:15 PM PST by 6ppc (It's torch and pitchfork time)
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To: Kartographer; wardaddy; Squantos; Black Agnes

Whoraldo Rivera won’t go until they can unload a 35’ airconditioned luxury tour bus, like the one he covered Katrina from.

I think Whoraldo is a sailor, he’ll probably have a charter captain bring a 60’ Swan sailboat to Port-aux-Prince.

That will be the new trend among reporters, most likely. It’s an easy thing to arrange a luxury charter sailboat in the Caribbean.

Whoraldo is probably going to be the first.

But the media will NEVER show the luxury charter yachts of the reporters.


23 posted on 01/14/2010 2:00:41 PM PST by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: Kartographer
What happened in Haiti is a real life SHTF scenario that folks here need to observe closely to see how people react and what they are capable of doing as desperation increases and resources shrivel up and become nonexistent.

I hope I am wrong, but what one will observe in this real life SHTF scenario, may not be a whole lot different in some large metropolitan areas, should an event of similar magnitude hit America as far as human behavior is concerned.

24 posted on 01/14/2010 2:07:31 PM PST by OB1kNOb (Q: What's the difference between Obama and his dog, Bo? A: Bo has papers.)
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To: pepsi_junkie

Not very different from what Pat Robertson said. I’m just saying . . . .


25 posted on 01/14/2010 2:39:55 PM PST by naturalized
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To: naturalized

I say I have hope that Haiti can rise from the ashes and you say it’s the same as saying they brought it on themselves because they offended God? Whatever. But thanks for the observation, such as it was.


26 posted on 01/14/2010 4:10:23 PM PST by pepsi_junkie (Who is John Galt?)
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To: OB1kNOb
I hope I am wrong, but what one will observe in this real life SHTF scenario, may not be a whole lot different in some large metropolitan areas, should an event of similar magnitude hit America as far as human behavior is concerned.

Good observation. There are lessons that can be learned here. Too much is taken for granted in this country.

27 posted on 01/14/2010 4:22:48 PM PST by TADSLOS (Nigerian Crotch Bombers are U.S. Citizens too!- B. Obama)
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To: Ditter

Well, you have a point...Certainly my arse would be hanging out in this situation, and I have nothing but sympathy and concern for those being “raced” down there to deal with the population that is effected by this disaster...

The best way to deal with a mob mentality is to not be there when this starts to happen...But that is going to be hard, and it appears (to no ones fault) that it is already out of control...

Thats why we have the military going down there...A tight manuevering force of Marines and Army personnel will secure the POD’s and things will eventually get under control, but not after some continued tragedy...

This whole thing is not going to go well, no matter what the intentions of world leaders desire...

If there ever was a “worse” place for a disaster like this to occur, this was it...It’s not the people’s fault, it is the leeches of local government that ill-prepared, and sat on there tropical laurels that need to be dressed down in my opinion...

This is only going to get worse...

And I seriously doubt I would be allowed to carry “something” that would afford me a means to defend myself while helping them out down there...

But those “professional” international disaster relief organizations sure do know better than I.../sarcasm


28 posted on 01/15/2010 3:55:08 AM PST by stevie_d_64 (I'm jus sayin')
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To: Carley

I heard that the reporters have been staying across the border in the Dominican Rep.

They fly in (from there) and do a few video bytes and get the hell out of there...They are working in rotations probably...


29 posted on 01/15/2010 3:57:40 AM PST by stevie_d_64 (I'm jus sayin')
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To: MinuteGal

Most of them may be dead...Which may be a good thing...

One thing people fail (here) to remember that Haiti has been a money pit for years after all the unrest got them into the current situation politically...The country stabilized (for what that is worth), and then failed to improve at all, even after all this money from the outside came in...

Go figure...

Like I said, it’s going to get worse before it gets better...And there is NOTHING that can be done about it...


30 posted on 01/15/2010 4:01:53 AM PST by stevie_d_64 (I'm jus sayin')
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To: SpaceBar

“Never waste a good crisis.”

Thanks Rahm.../sarc


31 posted on 01/15/2010 4:03:04 AM PST by stevie_d_64 (I'm jus sayin')
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To: Travis McGee

Bingo!!!


32 posted on 01/15/2010 4:04:48 AM PST by stevie_d_64 (I'm jus sayin')
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To: TheThinker
And yet they had the intelligence to allow U.S. govt. help faster than the Louisiana Democrats in the aftermath of Katrina.

Isn't most of the Haitian government still unaccounted for? If so, that may explain a lot.

33 posted on 01/15/2010 4:12:32 AM PST by mewzilla (Vote fraud is treason.)
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To: MinuteGal
Multiple Haitian ministers reported dead in quake (Extra)
34 posted on 01/15/2010 4:14:28 AM PST by mewzilla (Vote fraud is treason.)
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To: mewzilla

If Bush were President, reckon what today’s NY Times headline would be?


35 posted on 01/15/2010 4:18:02 AM PST by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: abb
By now I'd be willing to bet many Haitians wish 43 was still in office.

And on a related note, from 2004...

U.S. Papers Blast Bush's Response to Tsunami

36 posted on 01/15/2010 4:21:46 AM PST by mewzilla (Vote fraud is treason.)
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To: pepsi_junkie

Robertson didn’t say that. He said what you said - that if there is a blessing in all of this, it is that Haiti can rebuild their society both materially and spiritually.

Robertson happens to believe, along with other Christians and followers of Jesus of Nazareth, that the hope you speak of is the hope that Jesus was the Christ, that He will come to judge the living and the dead, and that those that loved God and loved each other as He loved (and only those people) will experience eternal life in His kingdom. It is this hope that is the source of the faith and love that drives people like Robertson to spend millions for the hurting like those in Haiti.

I pray that you share that hope too.


37 posted on 01/15/2010 5:01:27 AM PST by naturalized
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