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NASA Caught in Climate Data Manipulation; New Revelations Headlined on KUSI-TV Climate Special
Spaceref.com ^ | 1/14/09 | Spaceref.com

Posted on 01/14/2010 1:08:26 PM PST by Brett66

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"When the differences between the warmest year in history and the tenth warmest year is less than three quarters of a degree, it becomes silly to rely on such comparisons," added D'Aleo who asserts that the data manipulation is "scientific travesty" that was committed by activist scientists to advance the global warming agenda.

I guess that says it.

21 posted on 01/14/2010 1:42:57 PM PST by Right Wing Assault (The Obama magic is fading.)
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Such a shame. When NASA started in the late 50s, I thought it was the best thing since ice cream. The dreams we thought it might realize.
Sad.


22 posted on 01/14/2010 1:51:31 PM PST by Roccus (ABLE DANGER?????...................What's an ABLE DANGER???)
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To: Brett66

NASA has turned into a disgraceful laughingstock. The agency takes taxpayer money and uses it to perpetate a “global warming” fraud for the purpose of... confiscating even MORE money from productive taxpayers?? That’s quite a sick scheme.

It’s time to either yank NASA funding altogether or turn the agency completely over to the military. It is getting to the point that private entrepreneurs can do the adventuring and “research” applications of space travel without the help of confiscated tax dollars.

In any event, their assclown Hansen needs to be fired immediately and indicted.


23 posted on 01/14/2010 1:51:31 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: nmh

“HOW did NASA get politicized?”

And if that’s not enough for you, check out http://www.noaa.gov. Their forcasts are pretty good, though, which was their mission before some leftward-leaning “mission creep” set in.


24 posted on 01/14/2010 1:58:30 PM PST by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: Brett66

Did you say moi was cheating?

25 posted on 01/14/2010 2:00:00 PM PST by seawolf101
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To: Brett66

We’re all shocked, I’m sure...


26 posted on 01/14/2010 2:52:35 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Democracy, the vilest form of government, pits the greed of an angry mob vs. the rights of a man)
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To: nmh
HOW did NASA get politicized?

Nature of the beast. Follow the money. NASA burns up $17 billion a year.

End it and set up $17 billion in tax breaks for private development of space travel, space flight, et al.

27 posted on 01/14/2010 2:53:10 PM PST by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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To: Brett66
"Smith and D'Aleo accuse these centers of manipulating temperature data to give the appearance of warmer temperatures than actually occurred by trimming the number and location of weather observation stations."

AKA "Cherry-picking the data..."

FWIW, my granddaughter's (first place) fifth grade anti-AGW science fair project is undergirded by new articles on a regular basis...

28 posted on 01/14/2010 2:55:02 PM PST by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...!!)
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How do you ‘feel’ about NASA data reliability today?


29 posted on 01/14/2010 2:56:14 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Democracy, the vilest form of government, pits the greed of an angry mob vs. the rights of a man)
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"NASA wants the $$$$$$$—they go with the flow
Forget integrity"

Yep, this premise seems to have caught McCain, Grahamnasty, and a few other Republicans too.

30 posted on 01/14/2010 3:00:16 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Democracy, the vilest form of government, pits the greed of an angry mob vs. the rights of a man)
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"The data bases on which so many important decisions are to be made are “Non Gradus Anus Rodentum!”

"Not worth a ...WHAT?!?"

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Gotta love these scientists who take advantage of the fact that most folks no longer know Latin -- to slip in a jewel like that one!! LOL!!!

31 posted on 01/14/2010 3:08:30 PM PST by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...!!)
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"How do you ‘feel’ about NASA data reliability today?"

Check out the D'aleo quote in quote in #31. D'aleo rates their database reliablilty as as

“Non Gradus Anus Rodentum!”

ROFLOL!!!

32 posted on 01/14/2010 3:23:25 PM PST by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...!!)
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Um, for the latin impaired; Non Gradus Anus Rodentum!= Not Worth A Rats Ass!


33 posted on 01/14/2010 5:31:45 PM PST by Wingy (Don't blame me. I voted for the chick. I hope to do so again.)
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How do you ‘feel’ about NASA data reliability today?

I feel the same about it today that I felt about it when you were ignoring what I was saying before. The data is the data...and we know climate scientists have been manipulating the raw data to show more warming than there is. It happened in New Zealand and Jones/Mann perfected it.

The data still shows warming up until 2002...then cooling afterwards. I said that...but I guess you conveniently ignored all of that (considering this story is about manipulated data in 2005).

And BTW...D'Aleo agrees with me...that the earth had warmed due to a natural cycle of PDO...etc...and that now it is cooling....which is exactly what I have said. So...once again a source agrees with me. So...your point is?

HERE is a good record...RAW data...of global temps. Its from a source (Roy Spencer) who is a climate scientist...and does not subscribe to AGW.

Joe Bastardi, who also does not subscribe to AGW...said this about this site: "That is the site to keep an eye on for the global temps as it is not "adjusted" as NASA GISS temps are. It plainly shows we are warmer than normal but unlike 02-03 and 06-07 ninos as strong as this peaked in December. We are seeing this fall already. In any case, I quickly reported the warm temp of November, and now here is the cooler December. But those that want an OBJECTIVE measurement of temps this is the site to go to. "

D'Aleo feels the same about the data...and believes in some warming (due to natural reasons)...and cooling since 2002.

So...again...I say: What have I said differently than your ping to me? Nothing.

34 posted on 01/14/2010 7:06:40 PM PST by NELSON111
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To: Brett66
No wonder it was so difficult to see the forcing signature from the sun in their data. They had purposely made it difficult to see. I was assuming it was beyond the capability for human math to discern, but the math was not the problem. These particular humans were.
35 posted on 01/14/2010 10:59:51 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: avacado

Goes back to a Sen Tim Wirth of Colorado who set up Hansen for the purrpose to extol ... Global Warming ....we have a thread around here that has the History.


36 posted on 02/09/2010 10:13:27 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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