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Haiti aid groups ask companies for cash, not goods
Reuters ^ | 1-14-10

Posted on 01/14/2010 4:42:35 PM PST by SJackson

SAN FRANCISCO (Reuters) - Aid groups asked companies to donate cash to help earthquake relief efforts in Haiti instead of supplies like clothing and tents that they cannot distribute yet because of the devastation.

World

Relief groups are trying to address immediate needs such as clean water and medical supplies, and also are trying to keep airspace around Haiti clear for those needs.

Planes full of supplies headed to the Port-au-Prince airport on Thursday, but they arrived faster than ground crews could unload them. Aviation authorities had to restrict non-military flights from U.S. airspace because they feared the planes would run out of fuel while waiting to land.

"This is not the moment to drop a container of cinderblocks or roofing material onto the tarmac. We need to do first things first, and we're in emergency relief mode," said David Owens, vice president of corporate development for humanitarian group World Vision.

A 7.0 magnitude earthquake devastated Haiti, the poorest nation in the western hemisphere, on Tuesday. The quake flattened hillsides, knocked out communication systems, blocked roads, and rendered Haiti's main seaport unusable.

Companies, including Lowe's Cos Inc, Google, Morgan Stanley and Goldman Sachs Group announced donations of $1 million each to help disaster relief efforts, but aid groups said many more millions of dollars will be needed.

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cash; cashnotgoods; earthquake; haiti; haitianearthquake; haitiearthquake; haitiquake; haitiquake2010; haitirelief; humanitarianrelief
Good idea, let them eat cash
1 posted on 01/14/2010 4:42:36 PM PST by SJackson
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To: SJackson

I hear that $20 bills are good with Hidden Valley Ranch...


2 posted on 01/14/2010 4:44:30 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: SJackson

Send $$. Even libs on Brit web sites are saying send stuff because the money gets stolen.


3 posted on 01/14/2010 4:46:45 PM PST by Frantzie (TV - sending Americans towards Islamic serfdom - Cancel TV service NOW)
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To: SJackson

And they are going to spend this cash where? I doubt there’s even a Home Depot there, let alone a hardware/pharmacy left operable. I’m sorry to sound so jaded, but this looks like an attempt to line some pockets. I”m pretty sure our planes come complete with their own field hospitals, which I’m sure the Doctors Without Borders will welcome. And we bring our own food..to share.

Hey, Haiti! We’re the US, let us do what we do best...helping after disasters. It’s not like we’re the UN or anything useless.


4 posted on 01/14/2010 4:51:23 PM PST by blu (Graffiti the world, I've seen the writing on the wall...)
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To: SJackson

As I recall, after the 2004 tsunai, the first thing GWB sent was a Navy ship with massive water conversion capabilities.


5 posted on 01/14/2010 4:53:03 PM PST by EDINVA
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To: SJackson

Sheesh. Reminds me of this bum I gave my untouched, fresh from the bag fries’ that I got from McDonald’s because I felt sorry for him...

BUM: “Why fries? How about $6 my friend, you can afford it, I promise to buy food..
ME: “You have food in your hands, they’re called fries..”
BUM: “I dont like your attitude..”


6 posted on 01/14/2010 4:58:49 PM PST by max americana
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To: EDINVA
As I recall, after the 2004 tsunai, the first thing GWB sent was a Navy ship with massive water conversion capabilities.

I've not had a chance to look at the statements, but I heard an interesting commentary today. Per the Obama speach, "my administration" and "I" are involved in doing lots of things. Per the GWB Tsunami speach, the American people and America were doing those things. Can't vouch for that, hopefully someone will write about it in the next couple days, it's significant.

7 posted on 01/14/2010 5:00:36 PM PST by SJackson (In wine there is wisdom, In beer there is freedom, In water there is bacteria.)
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To: SJackson

http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/N14234713.htm

Angry Haitians block roads with corpses

Aid is coming in faster than it can be received and folks think by blocking the roads
it will get there sooner? I understand their panic but helping to bury
the dead would be better in the short and long run.


8 posted on 01/14/2010 5:03:21 PM PST by soycd
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To: blu
I'm not so worried by private orgs like salvation army, catholic charities or even ARC. It's going to take a long time for Haiti to recover (if it ever does), long after the TV cameras are gone.

But obama says the US is going to give $100 million in aid to Haiti. To who? How does that money get passed on to the Haitians if there's no "infrastructure". If Haiti is known for its corruption, I'd be careful. Need to establish some law and order there.

9 posted on 01/14/2010 5:03:56 PM PST by virgil
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To: virgil
How does that money get passed on to the Haitians if there's no "infrastructure".

The President is alive. I suspect most of the political class are breathing. What more infrastructure do you need to process cash. Obama understands, he's from Chicago.

You're correct that it would be wise to donate only to clearly reputable charities.

10 posted on 01/14/2010 5:08:13 PM PST by SJackson (In wine there is wisdom, In beer there is freedom, In water there is bacteria.)
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To: SJackson

Most of the money given to charities get stolen in the US itself. Liberals are professionals when it comes to setting up non-profit organizations and raising money. Their overheads are around 85%. To be fair, it isn’t just liberals who do this but also RINOs. I recall reading somewhere that Elizabeth Dole had a 500K a year salary while heading Red Cross.

Giving in kind is also a dubious way of helping out. Most non-profits prefer giving in kind because they can add up the value of the goods and the salary they pay themselves and claim that the total money went towards helping Haitians.

This is how it works. Say, you give hundred dollars to a charity group. Most of the time, it turns out to be a fraudulent liberal group. They buy half a dozen used blankets for one dollar each and disburse the remaining 94 dollars to themselves. Then they claim that they spent 100 dollars helping out the victims!

Believe me, I am not making this up. You may think I am cynical but I prefer some corrupt politicians and workers in Haiti stealing the money than the liberals stealing it. Those workers need it more than the lazy liberals who celebrate disasters so they can cash in on them.

The only charities I support are the old style ones in which charity meant giving one’s time and energy without any money in return.


11 posted on 01/14/2010 5:08:42 PM PST by JimWayne
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To: SJackson

How surprising . . .


12 posted on 01/14/2010 5:11:52 PM PST by Psalm 144 (What did you think NEW WORLD ORDER meant? The Constitution? States' rights? Individual liberty?)
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To: JimWayne

The Salvation Army and the Amish come to mind as reputable charities.


13 posted on 01/14/2010 5:12:17 PM PST by varina davis (Life is not a dress rehearsal)
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To: SJackson

I gave some money to World Vision. On their website they had some information. They have warehouses at various places throughout the world ready for emergency relief supplies. A plane full of stuff from their Denver Warehouse is scheduled to arrive on Friday morning. (I hope it can get in). I think what he was trying to get across was - we have the supplies ready to go. But we will need money for the airplanes, fuel, etc. And of course to replenish supplies.

They also said all of their 130+ workers in Haiti are okay but considerable damage to their main building. So, they have folks already in place that no the area, local resources, etc. to help distribute the items. All of the kids that they support are also accounted for and okay.


14 posted on 01/14/2010 5:13:53 PM PST by 21twelve
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To: SJackson

"My palace collapsed. ... I can't live in the palace!

*** Haiti President Rene Preval, January 14th, 2010

***Actual quote

15 posted on 01/14/2010 5:24:31 PM PST by SkyPilot
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To: SkyPilot

Just when you think it ....

Never mind...

I wish that I could use swear words on FR right now....


16 posted on 01/14/2010 5:26:52 PM PST by Radix (Obama represents CHAINS for posterity.)
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To: SkyPilot

He is our dictator right?


17 posted on 01/14/2010 5:32:29 PM PST by BurbankKarl
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To: varina davis

Government aid is nothing but money given to cronies for spending it as they please and claiming that it was given to Haiti.


18 posted on 01/14/2010 5:38:12 PM PST by JimWayne
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To: SkyPilot

I saw them interview him at the airport. Saying he was leaving and the guy interviewing him was dumbstruck. It was unreal.


19 posted on 01/14/2010 5:38:49 PM PST by ColdOne ( Besides going to a church for Bidens mothers funeral, Has he gone to Church yet?)
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To: 21twelve

I’m not familiar with World Vision, but I don’t think the article meant to suggest they’re not reputable. The idea of cash donations makes sense, but that’s what they’re getting from most people anyway. I suspect there’s a Reuters disconnect, the “request” may have been made to corporate donors. Still, I’d take what I get, in kind donations are common from corporate donors, and as I noted there are plenty of individuals to donate cash. And in kind donations can be easily sold.


20 posted on 01/14/2010 5:39:28 PM PST by SJackson (In wine there is wisdom, In beer there is freedom, In water there is bacteria.)
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To: EDINVA

The US will have 5000 military personnel onscene tomorrow....8000 by Monday. The Aircraft Carrier can make tons of water...but not enough for 2 million people.


21 posted on 01/14/2010 5:39:55 PM PST by BurbankKarl
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To: SkyPilot
"My palace collapsed. ... I can't live in the palace!

The resorts on the Dominican side are OK.

22 posted on 01/14/2010 5:40:20 PM PST by SJackson (In wine there is wisdom, In beer there is freedom, In water there is bacteria.)
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To: SJackson

No tickets for high speed rail to Detroit?


23 posted on 01/14/2010 5:41:01 PM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (Arjuna, why have you have dropped your bow???)
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To: 21twelve

Googled for World Vision and they seem to have a lot of bad reviews. A lot of websites make the allegation that they are very corrupt and this view seems to cut across several countries. I would steer clear of them.


24 posted on 01/14/2010 5:46:03 PM PST by JimWayne
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To: JimWayne

If you lack brain cells please send your cash to this cause.

Makes you feel warm and fuzzy and your cash was enjoyed by the “hawkers” aka Acorn.


25 posted on 01/14/2010 5:49:23 PM PST by tiger63
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To: SJackson

“Still, I’d take what I get...”

You and me both. I recall after Katrina the loads and loads of clothing, blankets, etc. that were gathered at parking lots around the country, packed into trucks and driven down there.

Our church has a relationship with one of the churches down near New Orleans. Sent stuff for church folks, and also for the minister and his wife that also lost everything. One of the gals guessed at the wife’s size and bought an entire outfit of nice clothes for her. Right down to some lacy undergarments! (”I know that I would like at least one outfit that I could wear that made me feel normal and special”!)


26 posted on 01/14/2010 5:49:56 PM PST by 21twelve
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To: ColdOne

“Saying he was leaving...”

Wow. I guess the earth raped and robbed the folks so why should he hang around anymore?


27 posted on 01/14/2010 5:51:38 PM PST by 21twelve
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To: EDINVA
>>>As I recall, after the 2004 tsunami, the first thing GWB sent was a Navy ship with massive water conversion capabilities.<<<
—Indeed, and he was then roundly criticized for his “slow” response to a disaster 8000 miles away. Don't see why naval intervention cannot be conducted much faster 200 miles into the Caribbean, but apparently it is not.
28 posted on 01/14/2010 5:58:33 PM PST by Shqipo (Palin/Thompson 2012)
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To: SJackson
>>>”My palace collapsed. ... I can't live in the palace!”<<<
—Someone kick the President in the head, please. Dope!
29 posted on 01/14/2010 6:06:31 PM PST by Shqipo (Palin/Thompson 2012)
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To: JimWayne

I’d be interested in seeing some of those. I googled the same and of course came across some stories of bad dealings. (”Why hasn’t my child been to school? What do you mean my money just went to “the village”. The gal I know at WV always has the nicest clothes and biggest jewelry”).

I like WV because it is already in-place in so many countries, and has a good rating on how much money goes to relief compared to fund-raising, admin, etc. In just now searching I see that it gets a 4-star rating (60.34 score) from something called “Charity Navigator”. Samaritan’s Purse (Franklin Graham’s group) also got 4 stars (61.44 score). The Red Cross had 2 or 3 stars, and Unicef had 2 stars.

Folks can search that site for the group of their choice if it helps in figuring out where to donate:

http://www.charitynavigator.org/index.cfm?bay=search.summary&orgid=4768


30 posted on 01/14/2010 6:15:09 PM PST by 21twelve
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To: 21twelve

An excellent website. Thanks for posting.


31 posted on 01/14/2010 6:56:23 PM PST by greatplains
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To: 21twelve
Just google for World Vision with the word corrupt and the results should show up. http://friends-partners.org/CCSI/resource/sins.htm has interesting information.

Of Oxfam's #98m ($162m) income in 1998, a quarter, #24.1m, was given by the British government and the EU. World Vision US, which boasts of being the world's "largest privately funded Christian relief and development organisation", collected $55m-worth of goods that year from the American government.

That is a problem. If they got huge amounts from the Clinton administration, I am not willing to trust them. I would think that a huge chunk of that money must have been "administrative overheads" and a lot of that money came back as lobbying fees and campaign donations.
32 posted on 01/14/2010 6:59:46 PM PST by JimWayne
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To: 21twelve

I think much of the disorganized mess should be placed squarely at the feet of the blood sucking UN. The UN had been in Haiti since 2004, not in small numbers, either. They KNOW hurricanes often hit Haiti and there was this from the 18th Caribbean Geological Conference (predicted a 7.2 earthquake) :

http://www.ig.utexas.edu/jsg/18_cgg/Mann3.htm?PHPSESSID=d96c45386e2381490bf921d0d05289df
“We present initial results from a paleoseismic study of the Jamaica segment of the EGPGFZ conducted in January, 2008, to determine the chronology of its historic and prehistoric ruptures. Such studies should be considered high priority in Jamaica, Haiti and the Dominican Republic given the seismic hazards posed by the fault.”

The UN is useless and sucks money away from places like Haiti. The UN needs to be gone!

Also, I think if I were a Haitian and all those photogs were running around snapping pictures of my family and or neighbors as they lay suffereing or dead under the rubble, I would throw some darn rocks and try and keep them out. I would be angry, too. The UN should have had a plan and heavy equipment on Haiti in the event something such as this happened. It’s a complete failure of the UN that is UNFORGIVABLE!


33 posted on 01/14/2010 7:00:45 PM PST by Irenic
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To: JimWayne

In 2008 WV had revenues of $1.1 billion. Probably less in 1998, but doubt $55 million would be a “huge junk of that money”. Anyway, my personal dealings have been good with them over the years, and I’m satisfied with their reviews. To each their own.


34 posted on 01/14/2010 7:16:26 PM PST by 21twelve
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To: Irenic

“I think much of the disorganized mess should be placed squarely at the feet of the blood sucking UN.”

On another thread the point was made that 50% of Haiti’s GDP is foreign aid! And the whole socialist ideal is now coming to fruititon of someone else coming to do something, rather than doing it yourself. But I think in Haiti they take that all the way to the government level. No real police force, no army, poor infrastructure, etc. And the U.N. troops on the ground obviously doesn’t have a vested interest in the area.


35 posted on 01/14/2010 7:21:48 PM PST by 21twelve
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To: SJackson

A sideshow to watch during this sad crisis is that Haitians will *not* be trading food or guns for gold.

When a real crisis hits, gold is useless.


36 posted on 01/14/2010 7:26:21 PM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: max americana
Reminds me of this bum I gave my untouched, fresh from the bag fries’ that I got from McDonald’s because I felt sorry for him...

Very interesting and very telling. Also, in San Antonio I observed a bum with a sign step back under the overpass as the light changed and we started moving, whip out his cellphone and start talking. I guess it must've been something like, "Got some pretty good suckas over here, how're you doin' there?"

I occasionally bailiff at our county court, Judge won't accept applications for a court appointed attorney if defendant has a cell phone, most will have a snazzy cell phone and not a few have Blackberrys or similar. They can't dress worth a hoot for court but they have a high-end cell phone.

37 posted on 01/15/2010 7:21:00 AM PST by brushcop (SFC Sallie, CPL Long, LTHarris, SSG Brown, PVT Simmons KIA OIF lll&V, they died for you, honor them)
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To: brushcop

That some info you just gave there. Last time I checked, there’s a Fed program for free cell-phones that I saw once on FR, so that must have been how he acquired it.


38 posted on 01/15/2010 11:28:23 AM PST by max americana
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To: max americana

That sure is a possibility, are you talking about the beggar under the overpass? Could be, although that wouldn’t include paying for the plan would it?

You just reminded me that I need to start asking defendants (trying to claim indigency for court appointed atty) about those phones, I think our county clerk (here also a court clerk) does and makes notations on the app if she’s not swamped. A valid question when they are listing all their expenditures, debts and finances on the app.


39 posted on 01/15/2010 11:51:44 AM PST by brushcop (SFC Sallie, CPL Long, LTHarris, SSG Brown, PVT Simmons KIA OIF lll&V, they died for you, honor them)
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To: SJackson

the media are forgetting or not telling how the island was a cesspit of crime before this.
It was infested with gangs trying to take turf over, no go areas, drugs, killings, crime, guns shot every night and killing .

Now they want cash and exactly where does the cash go?

now obama says he wants to bring over 100,000 to 200,000 of them over here.
Which is nuts no matter how one looks at it.

food clothing no problem but cash, well obama has took most of mine already


40 posted on 01/15/2010 4:20:46 PM PST by manc (WILL OBAMA EVER GO TO CHURCH ON A SUNDAY OR WILL HE LET THE MEDIA/THE LEFT BE FOOLED FOR EVER)
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To: virgil

maybe you missed how he also said he wants to bring over a 100,000 to 200,000 of them over here on a 18 month visa which we all know they will never go back.

it should be food, water, water, water, clothing , water, water, but cash, where does it go and how to track it will be hard.


41 posted on 01/15/2010 4:23:07 PM PST by manc (WILL OBAMA EVER GO TO CHURCH ON A SUNDAY OR WILL HE LET THE MEDIA/THE LEFT BE FOOLED FOR EVER)
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To: JimWayne

the only group I send money to every month is st judes hospital as In know the money is well spent.
things like this then it’s food and clothing


42 posted on 01/15/2010 4:27:43 PM PST by manc (WILL OBAMA EVER GO TO CHURCH ON A SUNDAY OR WILL HE LET THE MEDIA/THE LEFT BE FOOLED FOR EVER)
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To: SJackson

In katrina, chrurces gathered up stuff loaded it on a tractor trailer and sent it to NOLA and Missippi.

There was no provission to distribute or ware house it. The supplies were unloaded in field got wet and were ruined.

Good intentions are often a failure in a mass care disaster situation


43 posted on 01/15/2010 4:37:21 PM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Tax the poor. They are a drag on society)
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To: JimWayne; SJackson

Oh, I believe you.

I remember the aftermath of Katina. To this day, I don’t think anyone knows what happened to the millions and millions (billions?) of dollars donated.

Who will oversee all the money currently donated?

The other thing I wonder is why donate money now? Why not wait until after all the donated goods and money have been distributed? I’m pretty sure it is so that it’ll pay the salary and transportation of relief orgs to Haiti. So, much for volunteering.


44 posted on 01/19/2010 5:34:03 AM PST by beachn4fun (Like thieves in the night, they make plans while we sleep.)
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