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Unsurprisingly, Rush Is Right.
NRO ^ | January 14, 2010 | Jim Geraghty

Posted on 01/15/2010 4:22:37 AM PST by nuconvert

You knew it was just a matter of time before partisan angles emerged about the disaster in Haiti. The Huffington Post takes umbrage at Rush Limbaugh: "Limbaugh also seems to feel we've done enough already for Haiti: 'We've already donated to Haiti. It's called the U.S. income tax.'"

Obviously, when people are struggling to crawl out from rubble and with meager medical systems stretched to the breaking point, you've got to mobilize. But on the facts, Rush is right.

The tale of U.S. foreign aid to Haiti is maddening, as well-meaning Americans dump more and more money to alleviate suffering, only to see little or no actual improvement in the living conditions on the ground.

Since 1973, the United States has been the world’s largest foreign-aid donor to Haiti, which ranks among the world’s poorest countries.

From 1990 to 2005, the U.S. sent $1.46 billion to Haiti in aid from development assistance and children's health through the Economic Support Fund, the U.S. food program, the Peace Corps, and foreign military training (although that was only $4.6 million, with $3 million coming in 1995). More recently,

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KEYWORDS: failedstate; geraghty; haiti; jim; jimgeraghty; limbaugh; rush; rushlimbaugh

1 posted on 01/15/2010 4:22:38 AM PST by nuconvert
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To: nuconvert

Did you see this?

http://www.weaselzippers.net/blog/2010/01/dear-god-machete-armed-gangs-ruling-the-streets-of-portauprince.html

That place needs a lot of prayers.


2 posted on 01/15/2010 4:24:34 AM PST by AliVeritas (Is it nothing to you all ye who pass by? Our brothers blood screams from the ground.)
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To: nuconvert

Laura Ingram said it well last night as a guest on O’won’tshutup. You can’t make a silk purse out of a sows ear. Well Ok that wasn’t exactly what she said. Closer would be money can’t change the will of the people. The bad government is also part of the problem.


3 posted on 01/15/2010 4:27:32 AM PST by wita
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To: nuconvert

Facts do not matter to desperate Liberals who see their dreams of remaking America on the Venezuelan model crumbling out from under them. The real Earthquake is in Mass. They are grasping at straws.


4 posted on 01/15/2010 4:28:10 AM PST by screaminsunshine (!!three if by government)
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To: nuconvert
Rush is far from heartless. Liberals like Huffington are the heartless ones.

I also wonder, WHERE has all the money, U.S. taxpayers been spent? WHERE did it go? Will MORE money finally get to the Haitians that need it?

5 posted on 01/15/2010 4:31:13 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: AliVeritas

I hadn’t seen that. Thanks.

My question has been, they have the water and MRE’s and rice, etc, why couldn’t they start dropping it by helicopter in different parts of the country 2 days ago when they first flew it in?


6 posted on 01/15/2010 4:31:25 AM PST by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: nuconvert

peaking of crooks, isn’t Bill Clinton some kind of a good will ambassador? Will he be raping women there when he goes?


7 posted on 01/15/2010 4:32:08 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: nuconvert

peaking of crooks, isn’t Bill Clinton some kind of a good will ambassador? Will he be raping women there when he goes?


8 posted on 01/15/2010 4:32:19 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: nuconvert

Speaking of crooks, isn’t Bill Clinton some kind of a good will ambassador? Will he be raping women there when he goes?


9 posted on 01/15/2010 4:32:32 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: nuconvert

I beleive they have been waiting for the helecopters that will be arriving with an aircraft carrier today.


10 posted on 01/15/2010 4:37:43 AM PST by Dem Guard
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To: wita

Anybody notice ‘’Clinton’s Foundation’’, money goes to his FOUNDATION’’ first then it may or may not get to Haiti,,,,money grab.


11 posted on 01/15/2010 4:37:59 AM PST by Waco
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To: nmh

Where did all the money go sent to New Orleans? The levees are still not fixed after billions of $$$.


12 posted on 01/15/2010 4:41:30 AM PST by shalom aleichem
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To: Dem Guard

“I beleive they have been waiting for the helecopters that will be arriving with an aircraft carrier today.”

That’s just too long. They need a better plan.


13 posted on 01/15/2010 4:42:30 AM PST by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: nuconvert

Because with no law and order the thugs would grab the supplies.

Law & Order needs to come with the supplies.


14 posted on 01/15/2010 4:44:52 AM PST by PeteB570 (NRA - Life member and Black Rifle owner)
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To: nuconvert

You sure don’t see any helicopters in the news coverage so far.


15 posted on 01/15/2010 4:47:54 AM PST by Dem Guard
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To: nmh

If Clinton fails to do the raping, the UN will take care of that for him.

Both have reputations in that matter.


16 posted on 01/15/2010 4:48:44 AM PST by dforest (Who is the real Jim Thompson? I am.)
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To: nuconvert

Not to appear totally cruel here, but at what point does the government of Haiti bear some responsibility for the lack of preparation?

When do the people of Haiti get it through their heads that you can’t continue to breed like rabbits when the environment won’t support you?

When do the various world governments stop enabling this country?

The picture in Haiti is the very picture of hundreds of other areas in the world where the environment can not support the population, where they are on the razor’s edge of calamity when natural disaster strikes.

Lets say we have torrential rains in the driest parts of Africa with flooding all over - they would quickly descend into chaos. They depend so much on the rest of the world for sustenance yet they continue to produce offspring at rates well above what can be supported.

While I hate to see the images of suffering, my logical brain tells me there isn’t enough money in all of the US to make Haiti whole, bring stability to it and turn a desolate, inhospitable island into a paradise that can self sustain. Like an alcoholic that needs to hit rock bottom, that country needs to do some collective soul searching to figure out how they get through the next 100 years.


17 posted on 01/15/2010 4:51:29 AM PST by msrngtp2002 (Just my opinion.)
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To: shalom aleichem
Where did all the money go sent to New Orleans?


18 posted on 01/15/2010 4:53:32 AM PST by WVKayaker (HARANGUE, n. A speech by an opponent, who is known as an harrangue-outang. -Ambrose Bierce)
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To: nuconvert
"The Huffington Post takes umbrage at Rush Limbaugh"

Hi...

19 posted on 01/15/2010 4:54:47 AM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (Arjuna, why have you have dropped your bow???)
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To: msrngtp2002

Part of the problem is the fact that they have a barely functioning government as it is. Think of Somalia minus the muslim warlords.


20 posted on 01/15/2010 4:57:32 AM PST by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: nuconvert
My annual contribution to the dictatorship, fraud, and misuse of funds in Haiti happens every April 15th. I have NO intention of sending anything to Haiti or any organization working in Haiti. I give substantial monies to the Catholic church as an offering and they are free to use that money as they see fit.

My suggestions to all people is the following:

1. Don't live on a active fault line or where earthquakes are likely to hit. If you do, expect tragedy and death.

2. If you live on a coastal region or, as in New orleans, beneath sea level, then expect hurricanes, massive flooding, and death.

3. If you choose to live in a flood plain, expect the consequences of your actions.

4. If you live in an area prone to tornados, don't live there unless your willing to accept the consequences of your actions.

5. Don't live near an active volcano. If you do, accept the consequences.

6. Don't build your homes on coastal hillsides where you know annual mudslides destroy them.

7. Don't live in areas where annual fires occur or are set which destroy countless homes.

21 posted on 01/15/2010 4:58:30 AM PST by Doc Savage (SOBAMP!)
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To: cripplecreek
Think of Somalia minus the muslim warlords.

Just wait, they're coming.

22 posted on 01/15/2010 5:05:42 AM PST by naturalized
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To: naturalized

I see that the news is reporting scattered gang fighting is breaking out.


23 posted on 01/15/2010 5:08:54 AM PST by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: nuconvert

Maybe someone can help..I have tried to google and haven’t found the answers to my questions concerning Haiti. When the news first broke about the quake..there was concern about a tsunami that could possibly arise from the quake...Did the tsunami happen? Also...what kind of damage did the Dominican Republic sustain in this quake? Looking at the map, part of that country is within miles of Port Au Prince. Just wondering how localized this disaster is....we don’t hear about the surrounding areas...was it just the capital that got hit? Thanks for enlightening me.....


24 posted on 01/15/2010 5:09:54 AM PST by leenie312
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To: Doc Savage
I don't know what planet you live on...but if it is somewhere free of natural disaster...It sure isn't planet earth
25 posted on 01/15/2010 5:12:00 AM PST by PoloSec (Note to Princess B H Obama: May PISS be Upon Mohammads Head...You Pervert)
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To: nmh

I also wonder, WHERE has all the money, U.S. taxpayers been spent? WHERE did it go?

Questions that the entirety of the American people ought to be asking Congress. But then those foreign aid dollars are chump change when compared to the slush fund, oops stimulus money. Questions, questions, questions, and virtually NO answers.

Someone with a brain needs to be in government. I have made this statement on numerous occasions, “we need a sabbatical from the Federal government for one year. Except for funding the military. It would point out a few priorities.

In reality, it would make every state stand on its own two feet, and fund their own budget. Without all the spending in Washington, I think it would be easily done. When welfare stops people start earning their way.


26 posted on 01/15/2010 5:15:14 AM PST by wita
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To: nmh

Best thing Rush could do now is set up a Haiti Emergency Fund and bring in millions for those poor folks. He stepped in it this time IMHO.


27 posted on 01/15/2010 5:32:05 AM PST by refermech
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To: AliVeritas

How disgusting that Katie C. is down there! What the h@!! for!


28 posted on 01/15/2010 5:32:39 AM PST by Mean Maryjean
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To: nmh
I also wonder, WHERE has all the money, U.S. taxpayers been spent?

It's only a guess but I suspect there are a few very wealthy people in Haiti. It's the same everywhere the U.S. government throws our money in aid.

29 posted on 01/15/2010 6:02:32 AM PST by Graybeard58 ("Get lost, Mitt. You're the Eddie Haskell of the Republican party." (Finny))
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To: leenie312

“Did the tsunami happen?”

No, not that I know of. The warning was called off not long after it was issued.

“what kind of damage did the Dominican Republic”

All I’ve heard is that they felt it and had power outages, but no serious damage.


30 posted on 01/15/2010 6:11:50 AM PST by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: cripplecreek

Only a naif would think that Iran is not sending its own missionaries. Look what happened in lawless Chiapas.


31 posted on 01/15/2010 6:23:46 AM PST by naturalized
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To: PeteB570

That thinking is what’s causing the delays, which is causing more suffering and more likelihood of desperation & chaos.
I believe the distance is like 800 miles away. It’s not 1/2 way around the world. Why not run a “Berlin airlift” food & water drop from Miami to many areas across Haiti? You drop enough stuff and it doesn’t matter if thugs grab some of it.


32 posted on 01/15/2010 6:24:48 AM PST by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: nuconvert

With all of the money we have poured into Haiti for the last 30 years we should just go in and take the place over.


33 posted on 01/15/2010 6:32:00 AM PST by jetson
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To: nuconvert

We contribute to the Salvation Army, and made a special donation for Haiti, knowing that the money will be put to good use.

Can’t say that about other charities.


34 posted on 01/15/2010 6:33:22 AM PST by Taxman (So that the beautiful pressure does not diminish!)
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To: nuconvert

My church went two days ago and my friend is still there looking for her mom and nephew. They took loads of food and I have to check and see what happened with food ‘other countries DID bring’ there. I know she called me yesterday mad about people selling food aid to others... so mad she was crying.

I’ll get back to you.


35 posted on 01/15/2010 6:37:39 AM PST by AliVeritas (Is it nothing to you all ye who pass by? Our brothers blood screams from the ground.)
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To: naturalized

Indeed, you’ll love this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5Skrg2lrRo

FYI

http://www.islamawareness.net/Fastest/haiti.html

http://www.islamicfinder.org/getitWorld.php?id=76973&lang=


36 posted on 01/15/2010 6:43:11 AM PST by AliVeritas (Is it nothing to you all ye who pass by? Our brothers blood screams from the ground.)
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To: Taxman
I agree. Salvation Army is my charity of choice too.
They were the 1st org. set up and handing out food & water after Katrina, while the gov’t bureaucracy was crawling along trying to get organized
37 posted on 01/15/2010 6:43:18 AM PST by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: nuconvert

The obvious solution to the problem is for France to re-take Haiti. It’s quite evident the Haitians are totally unequipped to do it themselves. If that makes me a retro-colonialist, so be it.


38 posted on 01/15/2010 8:09:11 AM PST by driftless2 (for long term happiness, learn how to play the accordion)
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To: nuconvert

Think what you wish.

Starving and thirsty, a female with a baby in her arms trying to make it to a bag of dropped rice as shes trampled and beaten with a couple of thugs taking everthing.

Being inside a food riot is not fun.


39 posted on 01/15/2010 9:15:12 AM PST by PeteB570 (NRA - Life member and Black Rifle owner)
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To: PeteB570

If they’d dropped it in the 1st 24 hrs, they wouldn’t be starving & thirty. Drop enough and no food riots are necessary


40 posted on 01/15/2010 9:40:02 AM PST by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: nuconvert

Red Cross probably does good work, but only after large salaries and perks are paid for. Whatever is left gets out into the field.

I know that no one is getting rich at Salvation Army, and I know they are the true first responders.


41 posted on 01/16/2010 3:35:45 AM PST by Taxman (So that the beautiful pressure does not diminish!)
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To: nuconvert
Ever had to deal with large scale operations?

You said “If they’d dropped it in the 1st 24 hrs, they wouldn’t be starving & thirty.......”

Does your plan use Fixed wing or rotor wing Aircraft? Fixed wing is faster so you'd need to round up enough parachutes to cover all the drops. How many towns, big cities, villages hamlets and isolated homes will need supplies. Do they all need supplies? Only some? Which ones. Riggers to pack and rig the bundles, parachutes, pallets, containers, etc, etc, etc.

Aircraft flight times, where are they, how long to get them to the staging area? Crew rest? Round trip flight time? Crew rest - again? Will that strip operations in the middle east and other parts of the world?

Where are all the supplies? Will they have to be moved to the staging area where the bundles are being packed? How long will that take?

I could go on but I hope you get my point.

Large Scale Military operations do not happen with a snap of the fingers. 24 hours to blanket a country with food, water, medicine and supplies for millions of people? Ain't going to happen.

42 posted on 01/17/2010 2:35:33 PM PST by PeteB570 (Airborne, the only way to get to work in the morning.)
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