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Looters raid U.N. food warehouses in Haiti
MSNBC ^ | 1/15/2010 | AP

Posted on 01/15/2010 6:52:25 AM PST by tobyhill

Looters have broken into U.N. food warehouses in Haiti's crumbled capital, an official said Friday, as security and logistical challenges mounted for groups trying to feed at least 2 million people reeling from a devastating earthquake.

The U.N. World Food Program had 15,000 tons of food aid in Haiti prior to Tuesday's 7.0-magnitude earthquake, stocks designed for hurricane relief. Spokeswoman Emilia Casella said local partners reported that the U.N. warehouse in Port-au-Prince's Cite Soleil neighborhood was looted but the agency did not know how much aid was stolen or exactly when it was taken.

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1 posted on 01/15/2010 6:52:29 AM PST by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill

People are hungry.
As they didn’t state how much was taken, I would like to assume that someone was just feeding his kids.


2 posted on 01/15/2010 6:54:11 AM PST by netmilsmom (I am Ilk)
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To: tobyhill

It’s not looting, it’s survival. People can’t be expected to sit around and starve to death.


3 posted on 01/15/2010 6:54:42 AM PST by TheDon
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To: netmilsmom

Agreed.
If the food was taken by/for truly hungry folks and NOT warlords using food as a weapon, I see no wrong.
Keep praying for these poor folks.


4 posted on 01/15/2010 6:56:09 AM PST by Maverick68 (w)
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To: tobyhill

In any disaster, you’re going to have bands of knuckleheads doing stuff like this. That said, I really don’t see Haiti ever turning a corner and really improving, no matter what resources we give them.


5 posted on 01/15/2010 6:56:59 AM PST by edpc (Those Lefties just ain't right)
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To: TheDon

Maybe the UN will send them a strongly-worded letter condemning them.


6 posted on 01/15/2010 6:57:01 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: All
***But the U.N. and others still hadn't figured out how to deliver assistance through broken roads and crumpled buildings, with little machinery to clear the mess. They are also contending with masses of people gathered in Port-au-Prince’s streets, few working phones and a massive influx of goods and personnel without an organized plan.***

I thought Obama took the lead and had a plan to get stuff in there immediately? By this time, Bush already had relief supplies going to Katrina victims.

7 posted on 01/15/2010 6:57:09 AM PST by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill

Why is 15,000 tons of food sitting in a U.N. warehouse in the wake of this disaster? They should have been doling it out on day one.


8 posted on 01/15/2010 6:57:17 AM PST by jersey117
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To: tobyhill

Why isn’t the UN distributing the food. I didn’t read anywhere in the article about any distribution, only how difficult it is to get it to outlying areas. Why not feed the people in the immediate vicinity and as aid comes in, reach the other people, rather than withold it. Maybe I’m missing something here.


9 posted on 01/15/2010 6:59:16 AM PST by Marmolade
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To: jersey117
Exactly. The people wouldn't have had to loot the warehouse had there been a real coordinated rescue effort.
10 posted on 01/15/2010 6:59:18 AM PST by tobyhill
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To: netmilsmom

Sounds like this food was for hurricanes, not earthquakes. WTH?


11 posted on 01/15/2010 7:01:55 AM PST by NEMDF
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To: Marmolade
You're not missing anything. Neither Obama or the UN could manage a cleanup on aisle 5.
12 posted on 01/15/2010 7:02:04 AM PST by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill
15,000 tons (in U.S. measurements) is 30,000,000 pounds of food supplies. If an average Haitian eats 10 pounds of that food in a week, and there are close to 3,000,000 Haitians that are in need of aid, then the food will feed those that need it for a week.

So why sit on it?

First, the UN Mission was destroyed and many of the UN workers were killed or are still missing, so they couldn't release it.

Second, Bureaucratic red-tape would have taken days if not weeks to cut through, so it likely would have never been released.

I don't think it is “looting” if people break into a building to take what was given to them to live but government policy said they couldn't have yet.

However, hang each and every person selling food out of a UN marked bag.

13 posted on 01/15/2010 7:02:23 AM PST by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: tobyhill

Better to have the food in the hands of the truly hungry and starving than being used by UN crooks to barter for sex and to sell on the black market.


14 posted on 01/15/2010 7:03:30 AM PST by Iron Munro (<p><i>")
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To: jersey117

To be fair, many UN workers were killed when the UN headquarters collapsed.


15 posted on 01/15/2010 7:03:37 AM PST by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: tobyhill

I’m no fan of looting, but if our gov’t was as MIA as the Haitian gov’t is, and my kids were starving, I’D LOOT TOO.

This might be the most shameful display of gov’t incompetence I’ve ever seen. Not a police officer to be seen .... anywhere. No EMS, no fire department...nothing. Not even a token appearance of first responders. Unreal.

Think about it: these people have been traumatized, seeing loved ones crushed to death. They are engaging in search and rescue themselves, as civilians, backbreaking work. Now add to this: no clean water, no food, no shelter, no medical care, no communications, and NO HELP FROM GOV’T on any level. And this has been going on in 90 degree heat and humidity for three days!

How useless is the Haitian gov’t? They have basically turned over all gov’t functions to the U.S. Military, including control of the airport.

Good grief...what a mess. No wonder the people are frustrated.


16 posted on 01/15/2010 7:03:40 AM PST by Daisyjane69 (Michael Reagan: "Welcome back, Dad, even if you're wearing a dress and bearing children this time)
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To: tobyhill

What happened to the 9,000 UN, mostly Brazilian, troops? I would think even a private would realize this would be a prime target fot looting.


17 posted on 01/15/2010 7:04:13 AM PST by C19fan
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To: TheDon

No one expects them to sit around and starve but the UN is sitting there with 15000 TONS of food and after 4 days it’s still not getting to the people.


18 posted on 01/15/2010 7:04:28 AM PST by tobyhill
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To: edpc; tobyhill; netmilsmom; TheDon; Maverick68; dfwgator; jersey117

If you’ve ever read about the place, lesson number one is that Haiti is NOT part of the Western Hemisphere. It is a dysfunctional, failed West African state that happens to be located in the Caribbean.

It was born in brutality, ruled by a succession of savage dictators, has a disgusting, bloodletting, amoral religion (Voudon, the Catholicism is just a surface mask).

The people aren’t bad and when they’re away from the place they tend to do pretty well, but even when they throw off their rulers (Baby Doc in ‘87, Cedras in ‘94, Aristide in ‘04) they just get themselves another. We’ve been there quite a few times before, with no lasting benefit.

I’m not saying they are addicted to tyranny and oligarchy any more than Iraqis or Afghans but after two centuries of this I don’t see any change on the horizon.


19 posted on 01/15/2010 7:07:16 AM PST by sinanju
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To: tobyhill

It’s not looting. The UN should be giving that food out. An emergency is an emergency. But where ARE the ‘saviors of the world’? Probably not there — there is no oil in Haiti, so the UN pervs are resting comfortably in Manhattan.


20 posted on 01/15/2010 7:07:24 AM PST by bboop (We don't need no stinkin' VAT)
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To: Daisyjane69
I just read an article this morning where Obama had “taken the lead”. It's been 4 days and now we learn that the UN is sitting on 40,000 TONS of food. Damn right, I would loot too.
21 posted on 01/15/2010 7:07:27 AM PST by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill

All you head in the sand people who think poor starving Hatians snatched that food are really in lala land. That food was heisted by or with the complicit actions of US personnell. It will be sold to the highest bidder. Corrupt animals and Democraps.


22 posted on 01/15/2010 7:08:14 AM PST by Lion Den Dan
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To: Daisyjane69
Not a police officer to be seen .... anywhere. No EMS, no fire department...nothing. Not even a token appearance of first responders. Unreal.

Welcome to Haiti where the only police are enforcement thugs of the rulers, there is no EMS at all, the fire department is something most Haitians have never even heard of and the idea of "first responders" is so foreign that only medical workers who have lived in the U.S. would even have a concept to work with.

There is no governmental services. The only people with a uniform are there to beat you and take your things.

This is the harsh reality for most of the world, and Haiti (before the earthquake) lives in the darkest, dankest pit of that reality.

23 posted on 01/15/2010 7:09:16 AM PST by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: tobyhill
quote " the agency did not know how much aid was stolen or exactly when it was taken. "

SURE , with u.n. in charge ,,,,,,,,

24 posted on 01/15/2010 7:09:26 AM PST by piroque
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To: tobyhill
Helicopter drops of food and water?
25 posted on 01/15/2010 7:11:00 AM PST by TornadoAlley3 (Obama is everything Oklahoma is not.)
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To: bboop
The UN is the most worthless organization in the history of the world yet this is exactly where the International Red Cross donations get funneled into.
26 posted on 01/15/2010 7:12:05 AM PST by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill
So, the UN had 15,000 tons of food already in Haiti that wan't already in the process of being distributed? Seriously?
27 posted on 01/15/2010 7:12:11 AM PST by Doohickey (I try to take my days one at a time, but occasionally several days attack me at once.)
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To: Lion Den Dan

Haliburton and Dick Cheney stole the food...

Actually, The U.N. workers overseeing the food warehouse were probably out operating child prostitution rings when the quake happened.


28 posted on 01/15/2010 7:12:12 AM PST by mbarker12474 (If thine enemy offend thee, give his childe a drum.)
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To: NEMDF
Sounds like this food was for hurricanes, not earthquakes. WTH?

Not many places stockpile food and water in anticipation of earthquakes. Haiti takes damage from hurricanes pretty regularly, which ironically is a fortunate thing. If hurricanes were not a continuous threat, the food may not have been stored there.

29 posted on 01/15/2010 7:12:20 AM PST by Charles Martel ("Endeavor to persevere...")
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To: tobyhill

To quote my dad:

Obama is like tits on a bull.


30 posted on 01/15/2010 7:12:28 AM PST by Daisyjane69 (Michael Reagan: "Welcome back, Dad, even if you're wearing a dress and bearing children this time)
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To: Doohickey

They are waiting on that “Global Warming” induced hurricane.


31 posted on 01/15/2010 7:13:28 AM PST by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill; jersey117; Marmolade

If the UN spent less time trying to bring about the fall of Irael and less time meddling in the affairs of sovereign states, and spent more time developing contingency plans for emergencies like this and for developing the capability to implement those plans, the world would be a much better place.

In all the years of its existence they still don’t have a rapid contingency plan for moving emergency supplies to people isolated by natural disasters? It’s not as if this type of disaster has never happened before.

What a bunch of maroons.


32 posted on 01/15/2010 7:14:02 AM PST by Iron Munro (<p><i>")
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To: Daisyjane69

On one hand I’m glad we’re sending in troops, but w/out a Haitian police presence (which evidently there isn’t) and w/out the UN peacekeepers (which are largely unaccounted for and/or unorganized at this point)...that means the US soldiers may become the policemen. And I’d hate to be the one standing between a man whose children are starving and food that is being “stored.” It will probably get very ugly before the crisis is past.

I’m in Florida, and after a hurricane people can get really agressive, and they’re usually just waiting for ice. The Haitians are going on day 3 w/out food or decent water, plus there are bodies decomposing all around them (the stench has to be awful.) Desperate times lead to desperate measures, I’m not really sure who’s in charge but something needs to happen soon.


33 posted on 01/15/2010 7:14:52 AM PST by dawn53
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To: tobyhill
Hate to say it, but it reminds me of Sally Struthers on South park hiding in a warehouse full of food eating chocolate cake while the Africans starved to death outside the door.


34 posted on 01/15/2010 7:15:00 AM PST by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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To: TheDon
It’s not looting, it’s survival. People can’t be expected to sit around and starve to death.

Yeah. This appears to be food they had stockpiled to give away in the event of a hurricane disaster. Well, Haiti doesn't HAVE a hurricane disaster right now, they have an EARTHQUAKE one. I realize that a whole bunch of UN people are missing, and probably the ones that are not are rather stunned (I would be) and reacting poorly, but they needed to release this food anyway.

35 posted on 01/15/2010 7:15:29 AM PST by nina0113
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius
However, hang each and every person selling food out of a UN marked bag.

From a public lamppost, with a sign around their neck.

36 posted on 01/15/2010 7:17:01 AM PST by nina0113
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To: jersey117

all the UN bureacrats are dead or evacuated for medical treatment (Guantanamo), and the Haitian police force they operated disappeared, the 7,000 so-called “peacekeepers”? Have seen a few blue helmets on TV, no word on who is commanding them. Mostly Brazilians.

The food in the warehouses was probably a month’s supply if doled out by an organized feeding system


37 posted on 01/15/2010 7:18:28 AM PST by silverleaf
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To: TornadoAlley3

“Helicopter drops of food and water?” My thoughts exactly.
Doesn’t Obama have a few planes & helicopters handy? What about that garden Michelle had going in the backyard?


38 posted on 01/15/2010 7:21:14 AM PST by classical artist
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To: tobyhill
Spokeswoman Emilia Casella said local partners reported that the U.N. warehouse in Port-au-Prince's Cite Soleil neighborhood was looted but the agency did not know how much aid was stolen or exactly when it was taken.

....or if it was even in fact there!

39 posted on 01/15/2010 7:21:18 AM PST by Roccus (ABLE DANGER?????...................What's an ABLE DANGER???)
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To: tobyhill

Why are people looting the UN food warehouse? Because people are hungry and that’s where the food is.

The Lord helps those who help themselves.


40 posted on 01/15/2010 7:21:21 AM PST by smokingfrog (Don't mess with the mocking bird! - http://tiny.cc/freepthis)
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To: Lion Den Dan

here here, except I think you meant UN personnel (as in local contract Haitian guards etc) who knew where the UN goods were stored) .... not US personnel


41 posted on 01/15/2010 7:22:09 AM PST by silverleaf
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To: tobyhill
Rahm Emanuel:

"Never let a serious crisis go to waste."

This is an opportunity for the UN to blame looters for all the supplies and food previously bartered away or sold on the black market by UN personel.
.

42 posted on 01/15/2010 7:22:11 AM PST by Iron Munro (<p><i>")
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To: tobyhill

Looting is taking things just to take them and taking advantage of a situation. Breaking into a warehouse where food is stored and no one available to distribute it because you are starving is survival.

My only worry is that the gangs will hoard the food.


43 posted on 01/15/2010 7:22:18 AM PST by autumnraine (You can't fix stupid, but you can vote it out!)
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To: tobyhill

When all hell breaks loose, survival of the fittest is usually the first reaction.


44 posted on 01/15/2010 7:22:28 AM PST by jetson
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To: tobyhill

What is Obama doing about all this? Why is he allowing these people to descend into chaos, disease and death? This what I want the media asking 24/7!!!!!!!!!!!!!


45 posted on 01/15/2010 7:22:31 AM PST by ZX12R
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To: tobyhill

Early this morning FOX reported some “minor looting” and calm in the streets. Also, that “things were calm downtown”. BS!!

Bill Hemmer (FOX’s little mama’s boy) just reported also that everything is calm in the downtown area’s. He has access to every story we have here, so he knows the truth about the machate weilding gangs and looting. I have yet to see him report from anywhere but the ‘safe’ airport. If it’s so safe, get downtown, Bill, you little boob.

Report the truth. We can handle it.


46 posted on 01/15/2010 7:23:11 AM PST by panaxanax (It's time for TEA Party Patriots to get an 'ATTITUDE'.)
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To: Marmolade

My guess is the delay is due to large number of UN officials who were killed or injured in the quake. The UN is a very top down organization and when a few higher ups are missing the whole system stops.


47 posted on 01/15/2010 7:24:34 AM PST by Madam Theophilus
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To: Marmolade

Not missing a thing, it’s the USELESS UN for ya. Dissolve the UN already! The world would be better off. All that money that goes into that corrupt, worthless UN would free up more for the poor! parasites....


48 posted on 01/15/2010 7:24:39 AM PST by Irenic
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To: Madam Theophilus

That maybe one of the problems but it also contradicts previous reports about UN relief workers being on the ground within 24 hours ready to help. This happened 4 days ago.


49 posted on 01/15/2010 7:27:55 AM PST by tobyhill
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To: edpc
Interesting story for baseball fans out there . . .

An episode like this cost Roberto Clemente his life back on New Year's Eve in 1972. During that off-season he took it upon himself to organize a major relief effort for victims of a massive earthquake that affected the Nicaraguan capital of Managua.

Relief supplies were sent from Puerto Rico on three flights during the last week of December that year. After hearing that these supplies were being seized by gangs of thugs and were not getting to the people who needed them, Clemente himself decided to accompany the supplies on the fourth flight on New Year's Eve. That was the flight that crashed shortly after takeoff, killing everyone on board.

50 posted on 01/15/2010 7:28:58 AM PST by Alberta's Child (God is great, beer is good . . . and people are crazy.)
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