Posted on 01/15/2010 9:51:31 AM PST by rabscuttle385
Frum sees him as an antidote to the Tea Party madness:
Strong on defense and school choice, opposed to the Obama administrations signature initiatives, Brown voted in favor of Mitt Romneys health plan in Massachusetts. He describes himself as pro-choice (subject to reasonable limitations), accepts gay marriage in Massachusetts as a settled fact, and told the Boston Herald editorial board he would have voted to confirm Sonia Sotomayor.
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"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find only things evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelogus
I dunno. McLame is supporting Brown, which does lend some credence to Frum’s allegations.
This race is a referendum on ObamaCare and one party supermajority rule, nothing more and nothing less.
As long as he wins and then crshes Barry and the Dems hopes of shoving ObamaCare down our collective throats, I’ll worry about the rest of his garbage carry-on afterwards.
It is absolutely stunning how FREEPERS are trading principles over a win. Just two months ago, everyone was swearing NEVER to support a RINO and here we are...very tragic and sad. One positive...I don’t have to be in the position to vote for this election. I was unfortunately in the position when voting for Senator of Pennsylvania years back when I had to vote for the Scottish Guy :) However, there was not the screaming NO RINOs back then. Today I would never vote for Arlen Specter!!!
Is Frum truly so delusional that he sees Brown as a Tea Party “antidote” rather than as an example of just how far Tea Party sentiment has moved Massachussetts electoral politics rightward toward the center?
Brown’s a decent guy who’s wrong on a few items, but it’s less about Brown than it is about kicking the Kennedy cult, the lockstep media, and the Obamanation to the curb.
In war as in life, it is often necessary when some cherished scheme has failed, to take up the best alternative open, and if so, it is folly not to work for it with all your might.- Winston Churchill
Oh, he's got some warts, that's for sure. But if he'll de-rail this disasterous power grab by the D's, we need to support him, just with the knowledge that this guy is far from perfect.
In war as in life, it is often necessary when some cherished scheme has failed, to take up the best alternative open, and if so, it is folly not to work for it with all your might.- Winston Churchill
I think in this case, assuming Brown is a RINO, there is no choice but to support him. He is our only immediate hope to put the brakes on the Obama agenda.
You posting history indicates your posturing as a "Conservative/" is specious. You only direct your outrage one direction and that direction never involves attacking the Leftists for anything.
Everything is relative. Brown is much more liberal than we would like, but he is infinitely preferable to the Satanic Martha Kookly.
Are you expecting something different from Massachusetts? Some RINOs are inevitable.
Are you expecting something different from Massachusetts? Some RINOs are inevitable.
I am not sure if I would care if Brown himself personally ripped a baby out of a woman’s womb.
It’s Massachusetts, and a conservative won’t win. Period.
Never.
That said, he is center-right, and that’s good enough for me.
As long as he is not as liberal as Snowe or Collins that is. They are my limits. I can take McCain or something, but they are too much.
Sen. Brown is the antidote to Frum’s and Romney’s
poisoning of Election2008.
Of course RINOs are wrong, but would you rather have Martha Coakley in that position, esp. at this time?
Actually that guy Kennedy (who I don’t know much about except from FREEPERS on this site who says he is really conservative) is conservative. Why did we not support him like we did NY-23??? New York is pretty liberal. I would have sent money to a conservative in Mass definitely. We seem to be taking the easy way out.
Thanks for that post.
I can handle RINO’s when it means we take away a seat in a deep blue commie country. I can’t handle RINO’s in areas where a true conservative can and should win.
Each race is different. The independent conservative had a shot in NY. Not in MA.
Are you deliberately or naturally obtuse?
And besides, Kennedy actually seems liberal on some things. He is not conservative.
Uh, he may not be as conservative as we would like. Are you trying to slow his momentum for some reason, here on FR?
Definitely NOT. I am thrilled not to have to vote in this election. I am just posting my opinion from a computer which is much easier than clothes pinning my nose on Tuesday if I lived in MASS.
No what is stunning is how desperate the O-bots here are to find any excuse to avoid having to attack the Left on anything.
Let see, in your lunatic world view it is worse to vote for a guy who will kill Obamacare because he is not ideological pure. You do realize is your hyper purist dogma does one thing right? You would make sure the Dems get the 60th vote to guarantee it's passage just because he is not pure enough for you?
Are you two really this stupid?
Are you guys just liars who are actually working for the Democrat National Committee or just this politically stupid?
Cause to say this sort of ignorant crap you have to either be a Democrat Party operatives or totally ignorant of how politics in a Constitutional Republic works.
So which is it guys, are you frauds or fools?
We’re talking about Massachussetts (sp?). No conservative will win there no matter how much those of us outside of the state would want it to.
Frauds or fools - well put!!!!
Kennedy is NO conservative. He is barely a libertarian. He is a life long Democrat who recently changed to Independent. He is pro-choice(sic), pro-gay marriage, code pinko level on the war and defense. People in Mass who know Kennedy (not even his real name) say he isn’t who he wants people to think he is now.
He is playing to the tea party crowd, but no one is buying it. The Tea Party Express which has a diversity of groups like Ron Paul’s Campaign for Liberty to ResistNet to Free Republic endorsed Brown.
No, he is an open borders, surrender the war on drugs UBER Liberal. There is nothing remotely "Conservative" about him at all.
Brown himself says that he’s against gay marriage, supports a ban on partial birth abortion, supports parental notification and other anti-abortion laws as well as making adoption easier, and is against gun control. I’d rather get the info about him straight from the horse’s mouth, rather than from David Frum via Andrew Sullivan....
Massachusetts is one of the most liberal states in the Union and may be the most liberal one.
Brown is definitely right of center and if he wins next Tuesday it will be a huge victory for America to stop socialism.
Brown is far more conservative than Frum is portending.
Tell the Boston Globe how liberal Scott Brown is. LMAO.
Stunning is the mere possibility of a Republican winning this Massachusetts election, and the message it would send regarding 0bama and his agenda. A win by Brown would truly rattle Dem bones! :)
Not the same, not even close to the same. NY-23 is a conservative,or at least a right leaning district in a liberal state. Brown is running as a statewide candidate in a state that has a HUGE democrat registration advantage.
I think you’re right.
Oh yea, I forgot about the border thing.. normally that would be a done deal issue for most FReepers.
Kill Obamacare...*laughing*...like he killed Romneycare?
Oh, and that was just two days ago...on Fox News of all places!
Brown is a RINO and quite possibly a Romneybot. He should NOT be elected, unless the end result desired is another {Snowe, Collins, Jeffords, Chafee}.
Blah blah blah, nobody is doing any such thing. The problem here is not that Brown is a RINO, but that you are simply too dumb to think for yourself, choosing rather to let David Frum manipulate you.
Oh...he sounds worse than Brown (with regards to issues). I guess Brown is the best MASS has in this election.
Looking at your posting history find it odd how you never ever find any reason to ever be critical of anyone on the Left ever.
Why is that?
Of the two choices who is more conservative?
Kennedy dropped out, his name is still on the ballot but he threw in the towel, it was just a nothing show anyway.
Joe Kennedy in keeping with libertarians is pro immigration, anti war, pro homosexual marriage and I assume pro partial birth abortion.
Oh shoot, guess what bud? You just lost any and all credibility that you might have had, right there with that single sentence.
Kennedy is not a conservative. Kennedy is barely even a libertarian (which would be bad enough). He was a Democrat until he re-registered to try to serve as a spoiler in this race.
That fact that you BLINDLY want people to support Kennedy, simply because he's the "independent" candidate (which you ignorantly and incorrectly conflate with his being the "conservative" candidate) shows right there why people are right to warn against all of this third party/independent nonsense.
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