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MA-Sen. 2010: (Scott) Brown defends Romneycare (ROMNEYBOT ALERT)
Fox News via Politico ^ | 2010-01-13

Posted on 01/15/2010 10:13:00 AM PST by rabscuttle385

Oliver Willis notices Scott Brown defending the Massachusetts health care plan -- which he supported -- and trying to make the case that it's really quite different from the federal plan with which it shares key features.

"They're two different programs. What we have here is a free-market enterprise where we're providing insurance in various levels to people in Massachusetts. The plans in Washington are a one-size-fits-all plan," he said.

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: Massachusetts
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No wonder Romney and McCain are backing him.
1 posted on 01/15/2010 10:13:02 AM PST by rabscuttle385
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2 posted on 01/15/2010 10:13:57 AM PST by rabscuttle385 (Purge the RINOs! * http://restoretheconstitution.ning.com/)
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To: rabscuttle385

Where would you ever find a true conservative in a place like Mass.? I guess for now he is the best we can do...


3 posted on 01/15/2010 10:14:09 AM PST by ohiogrammy (12)
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To: All
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HELP SCOTT !!

(stole this from another FReeper, but bears repeating)

•People in ANY state can volunteer for the phone bank! http://www.resistnet.com/forum/topics/phone-calls-for-freedom-call-1?commentId=2600775%3AComment%3A1891491&xg_source=activity

•Anyone… Anywhere… Contribute! https://www.icontribute.us/scottbrown

•Live in or near MA? Volunteers still needed at many regional offices. If you can help, please email Laura@brownforussenate.com and she will tell you how.

•If you live in Massachusetts, become an election judge. In Boston they pay $135-$185 and they NEED Republican monitors.

Needed; military and retired law enforcement VFW and police organizations etc to monitor polls- prevent the voter fraud they’re plotting right now. Video tape everything; document everything; prosecute the perpetrators. http://www.cityofboston.gov/news/default.aspx?id=3599

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4 posted on 01/15/2010 10:15:57 AM PST by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: rabscuttle385

Should we let Obama lackey Coakley waltz into the Senate for 10 months (or more ) of filibuster proof socialist programs?

Not perfect by any means but the alternative for right now is much worse.


5 posted on 01/15/2010 10:17:21 AM PST by GQuagmire ( Angry Scrubwoman: Martha Coakley)
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To: rabscuttle385

Support the imperfect Brown as a brake against the worst excesses of Obama, Reid and Pelosi.

Sure, be aware of his RINocity.

Better Brown, though, than Coakley. By FAR.


6 posted on 01/15/2010 10:20:04 AM PST by pogo101
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To: rabscuttle385

O Thank God !!!Now We know!! No matter what DO NOT support this guy Brown!!!

If you support him this wonderful Democrat will NOT win and everything will be just awful


7 posted on 01/15/2010 10:20:29 AM PST by woofie
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To: rabscuttle385

Don’t see Brown in that photo, do you?


8 posted on 01/15/2010 10:20:44 AM PST by Sparky1776
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To: rabscuttle385
No wonder Romney and McCain are backing him.

Whatever Brown might be saying about Romneycare, conservatives need to stay out of it.

The alternative is Coakley, who shows herself to be even more an extreme leftist and moonbat with each passing day. I think she could be even worse than old Teddy was.

9 posted on 01/15/2010 10:21:35 AM PST by Will88
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To: rabscuttle385

IS there a better candidate to back in MA at this stage of the game?


10 posted on 01/15/2010 10:25:09 AM PST by marvlus
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To: rabscuttle385
Brilliant...simply brilliant.

Democrats like you have been playing these good vs the perfect games for years. I don't think it will work this time.

11 posted on 01/15/2010 10:25:24 AM PST by pgkdan ( I miss Ronald Reagan!)
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To: rabscuttle385

Sounds like Brown is on his way to blowing it big time.


12 posted on 01/15/2010 10:25:43 AM PST by Chi-townChief
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To: ohiogrammy

I’m glad I’m not in MA. I do not support Scott Brown. He’s a RINO. However, he’s as conservative as MA can get I believe. So I’m choosing to keep out of this. I hope Scott wins, but I don’t. It’s like that.


13 posted on 01/15/2010 10:27:09 AM PST by Halls (Jesus is my Lord and Savior)
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To: rabscuttle385

There must be something in the water that makes the candidates say the stupidest things! He should have just kept his mouth shut!


14 posted on 01/15/2010 10:27:22 AM PST by BushCountry (We divide into those who want people to be controlled and those who have no such desire.)
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To: GQuagmire; rabscuttle385

Not every candidate can or should be uniformly conservative. A “conservative” candidate from Massachusetts is a different candidate than one from Kansas.

I would not accept Brown as a conservative Kansas candidate, but I see him as right-leaning when compared to the existing Mass leadership.

Remember, when you steer a ship, you cannot turn 90 degrees all at once. You have to turn the boat more slowly, steering steadily in your desired direction in order to change the course. Brown is a righward-drift on the ship of Massachusetts. He is better than what they have had and do have. He’s a step in the right direction.

just my $.02, of course.


15 posted on 01/15/2010 10:28:32 AM PST by MortMan (Stubbing one's toes is a valid (if painful) way of locating furniture in the dark.)
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To: rabscuttle385

Irrelevant! If he can kill Obamacare. He’s better than Coakley.

Changes happens incremmentally. It’s a shame certain Conservatives don’t understand that.


16 posted on 01/15/2010 10:28:58 AM PST by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: rabscuttle385

Coakley supporters will no doubt laugh aloud that Brown is now taking shots from the right. Who do you think planted these stories to engender doubt among rightwing bankrollers?

Whether the information contained is right or not, this is clearly a Coakley campaign tactic.

Don’t take your eye off the ball.

SnakeDoc


17 posted on 01/15/2010 10:30:14 AM PST by SnakeDoctor (Life is tough; it's tougher if you're stupid. -- John Wayne)
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To: rabscuttle385
No wonder Romney and McCain are backing him.

Uh, are Romney and McCain the enemies to our freedom right now, or is it Obama, Pelosi and Reid?

18 posted on 01/15/2010 10:33:43 AM PST by Plutarch
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To: SnakeDoctor
Who do you think planted these stories to engender doubt among rightwing bankrollers?

Exactly, this question is asked to get that response from Brown. They know he supported Romneycare, so what is the point? The point is to stir up conservatives and hope to get some dumb reactions and remarks from them to use to damage Brown with the Mass. moderates and/or independents.

19 posted on 01/15/2010 10:35:33 AM PST by Will88
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To: rabscuttle385
Look, I know you'd rather have Coakley, but....


20 posted on 01/15/2010 10:38:02 AM PST by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Obama is proof that you can send a fool to college, but you can't make him think.)
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To: rabscuttle385

Dude. Ask ANY ‘conservative’ in MA how they like their current governor compared to Romney. The current guy is a liberal doofus. This is THEIR decision. Let’s fix Virginia before we worry about Massachusetts - OK?


21 posted on 01/15/2010 10:38:38 AM PST by tgusa (Gun control: deep breath, sight alignment, squeeze the trigger ....)
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To: rabscuttle385

Glad to see we have FReepers springing into action to march bravely into the jaws of victory and rescue defeat.


22 posted on 01/15/2010 10:39:02 AM PST by Dan Middleton
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To: woofie; rabscuttle385

Rabs is a Paultard. He could care less about electoral realities.


23 posted on 01/15/2010 10:39:22 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: rabscuttle385

When Brown wins...game over for the dims...


24 posted on 01/15/2010 10:39:39 AM PST by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: rabscuttle385

I have no problem supporting this guy. He’s pledged to torpedo the health bill and breaks the filibuster-proof majority. That’s all I care about here. He’s a one-termer anyway.


25 posted on 01/15/2010 10:40:01 AM PST by Antoninus (The RNC's dream ticket: Romney / Scozzafava 2012)
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To: rabscuttle385

It sounds like there’s a troll or two trying to make a little trouble here. Snide comments, tangential issues. Glad to see they’re being slapped down.

Just don’t drool or drag your knuckles too much while your surfing FreeRepubloic.com.


26 posted on 01/15/2010 10:40:15 AM PST by Mobties
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To: rabscuttle385

Conservatives need to quit making the perfect the enemy of the good.


27 posted on 01/15/2010 10:40:38 AM PST by Busywhiskers ("Once you have wrestled, everything else in life is easy" -Dan Gable)
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To: Plutarch
Uh, are Romney and McCain the enemies to our freedom right now, or is it Obama, Pelosi and Reid?

They are ALL enemies of freedom.

The question therefore becomes: will you or any of the other conservatives here actually fight McCain, Romney, and the rest of the statist RINOs, or will y'all just vault them in to power because the Democrats are "worse"?

28 posted on 01/15/2010 10:43:09 AM PST by rabscuttle385 (Purge the RINOs! * http://restoretheconstitution.ning.com/)
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To: dirtboy

There was a Scott Brown thread in the past week that had probably 200+ really creepy anti-Romney keywords.

And I’m talking creepy keywords...it made me wonder who had that much pent up anger against Romney that they would go in and take the time to put them all in.

It wasn’t the person who started the thread.


29 posted on 01/15/2010 10:46:58 AM PST by rlmorel (We are traveling "The Road to Serfdom".)
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To: rabscuttle385

I almost feel sorry for you, now that the shoe’s on the other foot.

Apparently, we are more pragmatic than it sometimes appears.


30 posted on 01/15/2010 10:49:55 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: rlmorel

During the primary, there was a freeper poll late in the game (after all the good candidates were gone) that Romney managed to win. That was a wake-up call.

The polls are all gone now, and on many days you will find more anti-Romney ads here than anti-Obama, or anti-Democrat ads.


31 posted on 01/15/2010 10:52:17 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: CharlesWayneCT
I almost feel sorry for you, now that the shoe’s on the other foot. Apparently, we are more pragmatic than it sometimes appears.

This particular race is a "damned if you, damned if you don't" race.

Personally, if I were a Mass. voter, I'd ignore the line for Senator and move on to the other ballot items.

(Thankfully, I'm not a Mass. voter.)

32 posted on 01/15/2010 10:53:09 AM PST by rabscuttle385 (Purge the RINOs! * http://restoretheconstitution.ning.com/)
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To: rabscuttle385
Thankfully, you're NOT.

sw

33 posted on 01/15/2010 10:55:33 AM PST by spectre (Spectre's wife (11/02/10)
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To: rabscuttle385

I would vote for Brown, but realise that in my opinion, the Romney of 2008 was much more conservative than Brown is today, having a platform much more to my liking (without which he would not have gotten my support).

But I still feel that in a year or two we’ll be grousing about “another RINO” in the senate, and wondering how we can get rid of Brown and replace him with someone ‘on our side’.

Such is the nature of politics — but I’d rather be grousing about a guy who is against us some of the time than standing in line waiting for my medical exams and wondering what happened to my country.

I just think it’s funny that Scott Brown, whos is just about everything Romney was back in 2002 except Mormon, gets as much support here as he does, when Romney was castigated for many even for his run for Mass. Governor (I understand the presidential run, because the “Mass. is just so liberal” is hardly an argument for putting a liberal in the white house).


34 posted on 01/15/2010 10:56:55 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: rabscuttle385
The question therefore becomes: will you or any of the other conservatives here actually fight McCain, Romney, and the rest of the statist RINOs, or will y'all just vault them in to power because the Democrats are "worse"?

A Brown election on Tuesday would stop the Obama socialist agenda cold, and herald a Republican takeover in November. You look at this and see tangential benefit for what you consider RINO's, and that is what you are worked up over?

I don't know what flavor of Kool-Aid you are drinking, but it must be potent stuff.

35 posted on 01/15/2010 10:58:38 AM PST by Plutarch
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To: CharlesWayneCT

This is what I wrote in a similar thread the other day, so this is not directed at you, CharlesWayneCT, so I hope you don’t take it that way.

Someone had mentioned that Scott Brown had the slight smell of a RINO...

You would think the slight smell of RINO would be completely overpowered by the stench and reek of liberal decay that darkens the air and makes your eyes water from Coakley.

People need to give this RINO stuff a rest, especially those of you who don’t live in this state. If we can get a senatorial candidate elected in Massachusetts who will vote 90-95% conservative rather than one who is guaranteed to vote 100% liberal NO MATTER HOW RADICAL AND LEFT THE AGENDA, you would think even a fool could make that choice.

Apparently a lot of people have “principles” and would rather see someone like Coakley elected. Scott Brown had come out against socialized health care and global warming, and at least understands that it is the Taliban killing our men in Afghanistan and why we are there.

Screw anti-RINO principles. We have to fight to avoid socialized health care and cap and tax, two of the most immediate threats to our way of life.

If I sound angry, it is because I am.

People bitch and moan about how terrible the politicians are from Massachusetts, and rightfully so, but then when a candidate appears who isn’t RONALD EFFING REAGAN, we have to hear how he shouldn’t be respected, supported or elected even when running against a radical liberal dimwit ideologue like Coakley because he isn’t the mirror image of Reagan. I am sick and damned tired of it.

I have lived in Massachusetts since my dad retired from the Navy, except for my time I spent in the military myself. I have always had to live under the thumb of ultra-liberal Democrats for nearly my entire adult life, and reconcile myself with the FACT that I have NO representation in Washington that reflects MY values, and that my conservative vote for national candidates EVERY SINGLE YEAR is simply pissing in the wind, but I go faithfully and do it anyway.

This candidate has a chance. He has pretty much done it without the national support of the despicable RNC or politicians at the national level, and to a small degree I understand that. Politicians don’t want to be seen associating with a sure loser, which is what every conservative candidate is up here in this corrupt political machine. But what rankles me even worse, I come on Free Republic and hear people tearing him down on here. Sure, it is better now because people can see the candidate has a fighting chance, but we (and the RNC) should have been supporting this candidate from day one with vocal public support and money, neither of which was forthcoming until only recently.

I suggest jettisoning your anti-RINO principles for what it takes to defeat this radical, liberal Marxist agenda in Washington before it is too late. And that involves wholeheartedly supporting a candidate like Scott Brown. If you don’t, you will have your principles, and you can eat those principles with your boiled wool overcoats and shoe leather, if you can find any fuel to heat water to boil them in.


36 posted on 01/15/2010 11:03:46 AM PST by rlmorel (We are traveling "The Road to Serfdom".)
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To: rabscuttle385
Well once again our resident O-bot is in the fore front of the latest Obama propaganda campaign

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2429246/posts

37 posted on 01/15/2010 11:03:47 AM PST by MNJohnnie
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To: CharlesWayneCT
that in my opinion, the Romney of 2008 was much more conservative than Brown is today

You're right.

BUT...I shan't engage in political relativism in order to justify support what is otherwise a candidate with a rather alarming record.

If conservatives don't stand for something real and substantive--and that's a form of "purity," IMO--, e.g., a minimal, limited, Constitutional Federal government that maximizes individual freedom and liberty, then all they really stand for is getting re-elected, or in the case of the last election, getting Republicans re-elected. And that makes their words into nothing more than hollow verbiage.

Folks all over have been warning of the "slippery slope." There has got to be a point where one just has to put his (or her!) foot down; for me that point was last year.

38 posted on 01/15/2010 11:05:24 AM PST by rabscuttle385 (Purge the RINOs! * http://restoretheconstitution.ning.com/)
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To: rabscuttle385

Been reading the responses to you and I can see we still have a forum and nation that when the push comes to shove it is vote for the “R” cause he ain’t a “D” mentality. Some things never change, unfortunately for the Republic.


39 posted on 01/15/2010 11:05:29 AM PST by ImpBill ("America ... where are you now?" signed, a little "r" republican!)
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To: ImpBill
Been reading the responses to you and I can see we still have a forum and nation that when the push comes to shove it is vote for the “R” cause he ain’t a “D” mentality.

Considering that a Brown win would mean an end to the Dem supermajority, that is a big deal.

Some things never change, unfortunately for the Republic.

Likewise, there are always a few retards on FR who can't resist looking a gift horse in the mouth.

40 posted on 01/15/2010 11:07:17 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: dirtboy

Bravo!


41 posted on 01/15/2010 11:11:49 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Happy New Year! Freedom is Priceless.)
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To: rabscuttle385
C. S. Lewis, The Last Battle: "The Dwarfs are for the Dwarfs." Read about what the dwarfs did and weep.
42 posted on 01/15/2010 11:12:52 AM PST by Houghton M.
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To: rabscuttle385
If conservatives don't stand for something real and substantive--and that's a form of "purity," IMO

It's probably a waste of time explaining the obvious to a Paultard, but I'll give it a try anyway.

This isn't Romney or Rudy crawling out from liberalland to try and win the national GOP nomination.

This is about a pubbie trying to win a statewide race in about the deepest blue of states - and a shot at ending the liberal 'purity' the Dems currently have in the Senate - and having a real shot at gelding the Obama/Dem agenda.

Only a dipweed who is more interested in pushing a third-party moron like Ron Paul would have issue with a pubbie having a shot to actually win Ted Kennedy's seat - ponder that for a moment - the utter and abject gutshot such a win would have on the liberal agenda.

Oh, no, that would require actual THOUGHT instead of knee-jerk spamming like you are known for.

43 posted on 01/15/2010 11:18:17 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: rabscuttle385
Folks all over have been warning of the "slippery slope." There has got to be a point where one just has to put his (or her!) foot down; for me that point was last year.

The reality is that there are only two people with a chance of winning this special election. One of them will be Obama's "yes girl" puppet, the other has pledged to vote against Obamacare and will give the GOP enough votes to halt the Democrats.

Which one do you want to win?

44 posted on 01/15/2010 11:21:54 AM PST by kevkrom (Obama's Waterloo: a "hockey mom" with a laptop and a Facebook account)
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To: rlmorel

AMEN BROTHER!

I grew up in the land of the Kennedys, and am now living in the Bay Air-head area. Better weather, same crappy politics.

We, too, had a chance to put a Republican in office in a recent special election, but the "purists" threw him under the bus, and we ended up with a career politician who was even MORE of a moon-bat than the Congress-critter he replaced.

45 posted on 01/15/2010 11:27:52 AM PST by ssaftler (November 2, 2010: Re-Independence Day in America)
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To: rlmorel
you would think even a fool could make that choice.

You underestimate certain fools on FR.

46 posted on 01/15/2010 11:30:21 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: ohiogrammy
Where would you ever find a true conservative in a place like Mass.? I guess for now he is the best we can do...

Here is the choice. Thug supported Coakley supports the Obama plan 100 percent. Grassroots supported Brown does not support the Obama plan. It shouldn't be hard to make a decision.

47 posted on 01/15/2010 11:34:52 AM PST by LoneRangerMassachusetts
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To: ssaftler

That is discouraging. But...as long as there is a chance...there is a chance!

LOL...”Bay Air-head area...”


48 posted on 01/15/2010 11:37:05 AM PST by rlmorel (We are traveling "The Road to Serfdom".)
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To: rabscuttle385
Personally, if I were a Mass. voter, I'd ignore the line for Senator and move on to the other ballot items.

This is a special election to fill the seat of the Swimmer. There are no other ballot lines. You need to keep up on current events.

49 posted on 01/15/2010 11:38:04 AM PST by LoneRangerMassachusetts
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts
Don't expect Rabs to make sense.

Anyone who takes issue with the possibility of a pubbie winning Ted Kennedy's old seat needs either their head or their motives examined.

In the case of Rabs, given his Paultard tendencies, I'd say it's the latter.

50 posted on 01/15/2010 11:41:05 AM PST by dirtboy
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