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After a Day of Deliveries, US Ship Runs Out of Aid (Carl Vinson in Haiti becalmed by bureaucracy)
AFP ^ | Saturday, January 16, 2010 | Daphne Benoit

Posted on 01/16/2010 6:06:39 AM PST by kristinn

ABOARD THE USS CARL VINSON — Helicopters sit ready to go from this US aircraft carrier off Haiti, but there's a problem: after a day of frantic aid runs there is simply nothing left to deliver.

Aboard the warship some 3,500 US military personnel have been coordinating the flights of 19 US helicopters carrying aid since early morning.

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In less than 12 hours, helicopters from the USS Carl Vinson made some 20 trips to scout the ravaged landscape and deliver items that were originally intended for the ship's crew.

Among the supplies dropped off were thousands of bottles of water and energy drinks, 8,000 sheets and hundreds of camp beds.

Dozens of hospital beds have been arranged on board the ship to accomadate those injured in the quake, including a US citizen evacuated from the US embassy in Port-au-Prince.

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The relief work also faces logistical and coordination challenges, according to Rear Admiral Ted Branch, the most senior military official aboard the USS Carl Vinson.

"We have lift, we have communications, we have some command and control, but we don't have much relief supplies to offer," said Branch, who commands the battle group led by the nuclear-powered Carl Vinson.

"We have no supplies at the airport that we have access to. There are other supplies there that are under the control of other agencies, other organizations and we haven't yet coordinated together to make those supplies available for anyone to deliver," he added.

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The commander noted that some supplies remain at the airport, and could easily be delivered by US helicopters.

"The problem is, some people are perhaps not ready to release their stuff to the most efficient transportation makers and want to deliver supplies themselves."

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KEYWORDS: haiti; haitiearthquake; haitirelief; humanitarianrelief; sailors; usnavy; usscarlvinson
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On their own, our militay knows how to deliver aid safe, fast and efficiently.

God bless the crew of the Carl Vinson. It must be maddening knowing that they could be helping more people but instead bureaucrats and selfishness are stopping them.

President Obama should have taken control of the situation when it became clear the aid was getting stuck at the airport. Instead he's afraid of being a take charge leader.

Maybe Hillary can bust some (heads) when she hits the airport today. This is one occasion when being a (head)-busting (alpha female) will come in handy.

1 posted on 01/16/2010 6:06:39 AM PST by kristinn
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To: kristinn

As I said days ago, grab Gen. Russell Honore out of retirement.


2 posted on 01/16/2010 6:08:54 AM PST by Daisyjane69 (Michael Reagan: "Welcome back, Dad, even if you're wearing a dress and bearing children this time)
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To: kristinn

Bubba is the special envoy to Haiti. He should be down there not Hillary.


3 posted on 01/16/2010 6:11:28 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Sacajaweau

Bubba is the special envoy to Haiti. He should be down there not Hillary.

Then who would help save Ol’Kennedy’s seat in Mass????????


4 posted on 01/16/2010 6:14:39 AM PST by conservativehusker (Ben Nelson makes me ashamed to be a Nebraskan. (Kinda like Bill Calahan once did))
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To: kristinn
I would prefer that the US armed forces stay out of the aid delivery business for reasons which are patently obvious.

There is no reason why the US merchant fleet cannot deliver aid. This administration then could claim some job growth as merchant operators would need to hire seaman, stevadores, engineers etc. The US fleet is supposed to be on patrol and doing combat readiness training. That is what we're paying them for.

5 posted on 01/16/2010 6:15:30 AM PST by atc23
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To: Sacajaweau

Priorities...Bubba’s in NY campaigning for Coakley. (end/sarc)


6 posted on 01/16/2010 6:16:48 AM PST by dawn53
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To: kristinn

it took us several days just to get control of the airport. it looks like we should have negotiated for control of coordinating the whole operation from day one with Haiti’s prez. it hurts me to know that so much is sitting there waiting to get to people.


7 posted on 01/16/2010 6:16:59 AM PST by avital2
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To: kristinn
This is a symptom of Obama's turd world multilateralism. After the Indonesian tsunami, the UN and everyone else wanted to hold meetings and sit around jacking their jaws and "coordinating." Under Bush, the US Navy just moved in with a carrier and flotilla and began to do the job. We were actually criticized for our "unilateralism" by the erurotrash, but at least people got saved. This Haiti deal threatens to turn into a fiasco, courtesy of the weaselly a-holes running Washington these days.
8 posted on 01/16/2010 6:17:05 AM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: atc23

......There is no reason why the US merchant fleet cannot deliver aid. ....

Except there is no US merchant fleet


9 posted on 01/16/2010 6:17:33 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Tax the poor. They are a drag on society)
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To: Sacajaweau

That is disgusting to me.


10 posted on 01/16/2010 6:18:42 AM PST by panthermom
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To: dawn53
"The problem is, some people are perhaps not ready to release their stuff to the most efficient transportation makers and want to deliver supplies themselves."

I wanna know who's pulling that BS.

11 posted on 01/16/2010 6:20:06 AM PST by mewzilla (Vote fraud is treason.)
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To: bert

And the ports appear to be heavily damaged as well. Cranes for loading and unloading ships laying in the water etc.


12 posted on 01/16/2010 6:20:20 AM PST by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: kristinn
And Puerto Rico is about an hours flight time from Haiti.

You couldmarshal supplies at the airport and fly them in the Haiti no problem.

13 posted on 01/16/2010 6:21:17 AM PST by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: kristinn

Social workers ... that’s what you need the most when you have a disaster like this. Where are the social workers?


14 posted on 01/16/2010 6:23:27 AM PST by Mr Ramsbotham (Obey the law, or you'll go to prison and be raped.)
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To: kristinn

This is incredible. Heads need to roll. You’re 100% right- our military is trained and ready to FIX this now. The UN is keeping this from being done efficiently and quickly. They have blood on their hands.

Rwanda, part II.


15 posted on 01/16/2010 6:24:41 AM PST by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: bert
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Merchant_Marine

Almost 500 ships and 70 thousand merchant mariners as of 2006

16 posted on 01/16/2010 6:26:38 AM PST by atc23
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To: atc23

You are correct.

This is a sorry excuse for employing our limited military resources.

This limits preparation and practice for combat. Fixed wing aircraft are now not flying sorties, getting rusty at hitting the boat. Marines are not rehersing landings, and crews are not sharpening skills.

Plenty of civilian assets are available. If not, then why not? This like the Katrinia response, is being handled skillfully by our military because they are available—

but not the best option.


17 posted on 01/16/2010 6:28:46 AM PST by petertare (--.)
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To: Sacajaweau

I remember dodging the machetes in Port Au Prince-Hillary
2012!


18 posted on 01/16/2010 6:29:41 AM PST by Dr. Ursus
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To: Daisyjane69

As I said days ago, grab Gen. Russell Honore out of retirement.


Excellent idea.....Gen Honore would know how to get things done.

But, Obama and his minions are just “stuck on stupid”


19 posted on 01/16/2010 6:30:49 AM PST by UCFRoadWarrior (No Illegal Alien Amnesty.....Never)
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To: mewzilla

This is how bureaucracies operate. Just head Honore on CNN say apparently the problem last night with Gupta was “medical protocol”...he said they were using the same protocols as they do under normal circumstances.

The left forms a committee that ponders, thinks and then talks about it...the right sees the problem and acts to solve it today- not after the committee is formed.


20 posted on 01/16/2010 6:30:54 AM PST by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: SE Mom
The UN is keeping this from being done efficiently and quickly.

Then that's on us because we're allowing the UN to do it.

21 posted on 01/16/2010 6:30:58 AM PST by mewzilla (Vote fraud is treason.)
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To: Jimmy Valentine

One hour by helicopter or fixed wing aircraft?


22 posted on 01/16/2010 6:31:06 AM PST by kristinn (A conspiracy of silence speaks louder than words.)
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To: Jimmy Valentine

Guantanamo bay seems like it would be another good staging area for airlifting supplies in. Its even closer than PR.


23 posted on 01/16/2010 6:31:32 AM PST by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: SE Mom
This is how bureaucracies operate.

Which is why you don't send a bureaucracy to do the military's job. Not if lives are in jeopardy and time is of the essence.

I'll bet the Haitians are wishing 43 was still in charge...

24 posted on 01/16/2010 6:33:12 AM PST by mewzilla (Vote fraud is treason.)
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To: SE Mom

So no lessons learned from Katrina....

Govenor Blanco role now played by the United Nations.

Mayor Nagin role now played by President Preval.

George W Bush scapegoat, now auditioning for part?


25 posted on 01/16/2010 6:35:25 AM PST by winoneforthegipper (I will follow the "True North-star" and that's, Sarah!)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

Social workers ... that’s what you need the most when you have a disaster like this. Where are the social workers?

Right! And community organizers. We need more community organizers. Send ACORN now.


26 posted on 01/16/2010 6:36:11 AM PST by Louis Foxwell (He is the son of soulless slavers, not the son of soulful slaves.)
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To: UCFRoadWarrior
I just saw an interview with a guy wearing a taboggin that said "Yele" talking about his family in Haiti. he was mentioning donations and had a message on his shirt. I did a search of "Yele" and found a website that has been set up. I couldn't help but notice this:

The public is invited to drop off specific items that will be part of the airlift. Yéle volunteers will be on site to screen the donations and will accept only the following items:

- nutrition bars (individual or in packages)

- blankets and sheets (unopened in store wrapping)

- non-battery radios and flashlights (windup or solar)

- candles (loose or in packages)

While the blankets are for people sleeping outdoors and on the street, the sheets are for wrapping bodies of the dead.

The sheets are for dead bodies and they have to be in their original packaging?

27 posted on 01/16/2010 6:38:21 AM PST by youturn (Conference, Christine!)
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To: UCFRoadWarrior

I saw him on CNN tonight and man, was he PISSED.


28 posted on 01/16/2010 6:39:30 AM PST by Daisyjane69 (Michael Reagan: "Welcome back, Dad, even if you're wearing a dress and bearing children this time)
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To: dawn53
Of all the Brown/Coakley coverage and the Haiti disaster, the most disgusting part of all is Bubba being in MA campaigning when he is the UN envoy to Haiti. The Dems are a sick sick bunch. Shame on Clinton, not that he knows the meaning of the word.
29 posted on 01/16/2010 6:40:18 AM PST by ishabibble (ALL-AMERICAN INFIDEL)
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To: kristinn

I’ve been doing a slow burn as our military is once more put in the role of social worker. This is a military and national security crisis. Chavez and Castro will take action if we don’t. It’s time to occupy Haiti for national security reasons and get control of the country. Maybe down the road we can do nation building since that’s worked so well in other parts of the world s\ but for now, order has to be restored at a minimum of risk to our military and relief workers. Its not going to happen though for fear the US will be accused of “gasp” imperialism. We’ve become a nation of wimps.


30 posted on 01/16/2010 6:44:13 AM PST by Mercat (With all due respect . . . this is the people's seat.)
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To: kristinn
Instead he's afraid of being a take charge leader.

Instead, he's in MA campaigning for another socialist. You know, the IMPORTANT things.

31 posted on 01/16/2010 6:44:24 AM PST by unixfox (The 13th Amendment Abolished Slavery, The 16th Amendment Reinstated It !)
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To: mewzilla

32 posted on 01/16/2010 6:45:03 AM PST by Evil Slayer (Onward, Christian soldiers, marching as to war)
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To: ishabibble

Not to worry. Haitians are a lawless people. They have the only functioning anarchy in the world. They will storm the airport and distribute the goods themselves. Let that be on O’s benighted head.


33 posted on 01/16/2010 6:45:20 AM PST by Louis Foxwell (He is the son of soulless slavers, not the son of soulful slaves.)
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To: kristinn

I agree, the CV has done her job with flying colors...Giving up their residual stores in the initial phase of this operation...

If anyone figures out how far they boogied to get down on station in Haiti from the time they got the word go, you’ll know they broke some speed records to do so...

As far as “Thunder Thighs” going down there and actually doing something...

Is there a way to keep the delay to a minimum??? How about load some ships, any ships with some (or as many as they can load up) of those FEMA trailers, heavy earth moving equipment, water processing trailers, etc etc and get those on the way now...Seems to me that should already be in work and underway...

There are incentives (tax breaks) for private shipping companies that could be extended to get that ball on the roll...And it doesn’t take a photo op to get that going either...

All in all it is a politically pathetic thing to see growing worse and worse with every passing day...

But what do I know...I am not a international disaster relief professional...


34 posted on 01/16/2010 6:45:28 AM PST by stevie_d_64 (I'm jus sayin')
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

...and community organizers!!! That’s what they need...

/sarc


35 posted on 01/16/2010 6:46:34 AM PST by stevie_d_64 (I'm jus sayin')
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To: Evil Slayer

Bush would have done the same.


36 posted on 01/16/2010 6:47:13 AM PST by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: kristinn

I received an email from World Vision in which they explain that they are delivering their own newly-arrived emergency packets thru their network of 800 aid workers already in place on the island before the tragedy. This is an example of a private agency delivering their own aid.


37 posted on 01/16/2010 6:47:49 AM PST by Ciexyz
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To: Dr. Ursus

ROTFLMAO!!!


38 posted on 01/16/2010 6:47:49 AM PST by stevie_d_64 (I'm jus sayin')
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To: Evil Slayer

Disregard my comment about Bush. I was responding in the wrong thread.

In this case Bush would have been far better.


39 posted on 01/16/2010 6:50:01 AM PST by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: Jimmy Valentine

“And Puerto Rico is about an hours flight time from Haiti.
You couldmarshal supplies at the airport and fly them in the Haiti no problem”.

That’s being done already. Aircraft are staging at SJU, PSE, BQN and NRR and ships at the Port of San Juan.


40 posted on 01/16/2010 6:50:20 AM PST by cll (I am the warrant and the sanction)
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To: Jimmy Valentine

“You couldmarshal supplies at the airport and fly them in the Haiti no problem.”

Except that (according to news reports) the only working airport in Haiti is already over capacity - even USAF has problems landing with the hords of private planes from everywere landing and taking off. There appears to be no coordinating authority with the relief efforts. Since there is no functioning Haitian government, no one can grant that authority.


41 posted on 01/16/2010 6:55:37 AM PST by PIF
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To: kristinn

“One hour by helicopter or fixed wing aircraft?”

I’ve been in and out of there a few times. It’s about an hour and a half, hour and forty five by turbo-prop airplane from San Juan. Helicopters, particularly Puerto Rico Army National Guard helicopters, are staging out of the San Isidro Air Base in the Dominican Republic, and it is about a 45 minute flight from there to PaP.

The PRARNG were the first ones at the U.S. Embassy and have been ferrying U.S. victims to San Isidro and carrying supplies and rescue personnel back to PaP since the day after the quake.


42 posted on 01/16/2010 7:00:42 AM PST by cll (I am the warrant and the sanction)
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To: petertare

Except those ships are not parked in one handy spot. They are scattered around the world in transit or loading and unloading cargo.

There are no good options in lieu of a functioning Haitian govenment - some one in that now nonexistant govenment has to grant the use of forces coming to their aide. Otherwise, it is chaos - which it is.


43 posted on 01/16/2010 7:00:56 AM PST by PIF
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To: atc23

US merchant fleet?

Last time I checked - years ago - there was basically no US merchant fleet left - other than a few rusting ships in moth balls?


44 posted on 01/16/2010 7:01:23 AM PST by VRWCTexan (Obama-scare is the "real" Cash for Clunker Program!)
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To: kristinn

The Obama folks are still trying to figure out how to bring the Hatians up to Boston in time to vote.


45 posted on 01/16/2010 7:01:37 AM PST by OrioleFan (Republicans believe every day is the 4th of July, democrats believe every day is April 15)
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To: mewzilla

I can sort of understand the organization’s reticence. There have been reports of groups of armed citizens, looting, and promoting gang like activity.

If the food is just being “dropped in” via helicopter, who’s to say an armed group isn’t commandeering the food and not distributing it to the needy. Quite a normal thing in Africa, w/out boots on the ground, I imagine it could happen in Haiti too. The relief organizations probably want to get to the places to make sure the food is being distruted fairly.


46 posted on 01/16/2010 7:04:18 AM PST by dawn53
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To: SE Mom

“The left forms a committee that ponders, thinks and then talks about it...” and then issues reports and white papers, which need further study by committes formed to study the results of the first committees, which then produce results which, if not politically expedient, are ignored, since whatever crisis brought on the thing in the first place was over years ago...


47 posted on 01/16/2010 7:05:08 AM PST by PIF
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To: Amos the Prophet
They will storm the airport and distribute the goods themselves.

Somebody already seized a supply of food but I don't think they distributed it.

Looters raid U.N. food warehouses in Haiti (The U.N. World Food Program had 15,000 tons of food aid in Haiti prior to Tuesday's 7.0-magnitude earthquake, ...)

48 posted on 01/16/2010 7:06:58 AM PST by TigersEye (It's the Marxism, stupid!)
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To: kristinn
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKKi6TDRDCA&feature=player_embedded

Father pleads/cries for President Obama to send more people to Haiti to help find his daughter.

49 posted on 01/16/2010 7:09:30 AM PST by TornadoAlley3 (Obama is everything Oklahoma is not.)
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To: Evil Slayer

Note to folks in Haiti: If anyone sees people holding up aid shipments so some bloody bureaucrat and/or NGO can play Lady Bountiful, take names and get pics if you can. Put the info out on the web. Don’t wait for the MSM to do it because they won’t. Get the info out there. The people who paid for all that aid will do the rest. God bless you.


50 posted on 01/16/2010 7:11:22 AM PST by mewzilla (Vote fraud is treason.)
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