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U.S. Official: Arming Of Hezbollah Could Spark Israel-Syria War
Haaretz ^ | January 17, 2010 | By Jack Khoury

Posted on 01/17/2010 6:32:35 AM PST by Fennie

An American source says that Syria allowed Hezbollah operatives to train within its territory in the use of advanced SA2 anti-aircraft missile batteries, the Kuwaiti daily Al Rai reported Sunday.

In an interview, the senior U.S. official warned that if Syria supplies Hezbollah with this type of missile, Israel will bomb Damascus and a war will likely ensue.

According to the official, Israel has warned Syria not to allow the transfer of the SA2 missiles into the hands of Hezbollah, and views the transfer of such missiles as the crossing of a red line.

(Excerpt) Read more at haaretz.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: damascus; hezbollah; hezbollahhizbullah; hizballah; hizbullah; iran; islam; israel; kidon; kidonhitteam; lebanon; missiles; syria

1 posted on 01/17/2010 6:32:36 AM PST by Fennie
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To: Fennie

Urgent

Sun rising

ME in turmoil , news at 11


2 posted on 01/17/2010 6:45:30 AM PST by Flavius
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To: Fennie

So why is the (lowly and largely ineffectual against Israeli planes) SA2 crossing the line when Silkworms are not, or SA7s etc all of which Hezbollah has in plentiful supply? Not to mention advanced short range missles which are nearly capeable of hitting Tel Aviv?


3 posted on 01/17/2010 6:50:36 AM PST by PIF
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To: maquiladora; 1COUNTER-MORTER-68; hennie pennie

ping

What i don’t get is why the Israelis are drawing this red line. As others have mentioned, there are certainly other weapons in Hezbollah’s aresenal more capable of inflicting damage in Israel.

SA-2 anti-aircraft missiles are 1960s technology. It was designed to bring down non-manoeuvrable high altitude bombers. I seriously doubt they pose any threat to IAF F-16s or F-15s


4 posted on 01/17/2010 6:54:50 AM PST by jhpigott
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Duh. From Obama's genius' who arm the palestinians.

5 posted on 01/17/2010 6:57:46 AM PST by SJackson (In wine there is wisdom, In beer there is freedom, In water there is bacteria.)
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To: PIF
So why is the (lowly and largely ineffectual against Israeli planes) SA2 crossing the line

It's TIMING all about.

6 posted on 01/17/2010 6:57:58 AM PST by Carry_Okie (Islam offers three choices: surrender, fight, or die.)
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To: Fennie
In an interview, the senior U.S. official warned that if Syria supplies Hezbollah with this type of missile, Israel will bomb Damascus and a war will likely ensue.>>>>>>>>>>>> And why stop there? Take over Syrias Air bases and use them to fly to Iran and take out their nuclear program.

Blow the hell out of them.

7 posted on 01/17/2010 7:09:27 AM PST by Candor7 ((The effective weapons Again st Fascism are ridicule, derision , truth (.Member RA))
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To: Fennie

What happened to the UN peacekeepers? They have been recording the movement of missiles for quite a while into Lebanon.

Now Israel is noting this advanced missile system and drawing a red line. They have no choice.


8 posted on 01/17/2010 7:10:01 AM PST by romanesq (For George Soros so loved the world, he gave us Obama)
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To: Fennie
advanced SA2 anti-aircraft missile batteries

Advanced SA2's??? SA2s are ancient. Like 50 years old. The article mentioned remote control sites. I wonder if they meant SA-12 systems.

9 posted on 01/17/2010 7:26:58 AM PST by 17th Miss Regt
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To: jhpigott; 17th Miss Regt; 1COUNTER-MORTER-68
>>> "Advanced SA2's??? SA2s are ancient. Like 50 years old. The article mentioned remote control sites. I wonder if they meant SA-12 systems." <<<<

jhpiott, perhaps freeper 17thMissRegt has a point --- many reporters know less than nothing about weapons, so perhaps the journalist misidentified it.

Hopefully, there will be better reportage about this development soon to be found online.

10 posted on 01/17/2010 7:40:42 AM PST by hennie pennie
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To: Fennie; 17th Miss Regt

Most likely SA-22s? Syria signed a deal to import SA-22s from Russia, financed by Iran..... some are supposed to be transferred to Iran, and I’ll bet that Israel knows the Iranians are pushing to have SA-22s in Lebanon.....


11 posted on 01/17/2010 8:06:33 AM PST by Enchante (Martha Croak-y: Larry Bird = Lakers fan, Bobby Orr loves the Canadiens, &Tom Brady prefers the Jets)
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To: 17th Miss Regt; hennie pennie

I would be inclined to believe it was misidentified if the Syrians had in their inventory the SA-12 system (a/k/a S-300), which I do not believe they do.

I could be wrong (if someone could link to a story about Syrians possessing the SA-12 system) and if I am, then I could see how Israel would be super pissed if Syria was training/equipping Hezbollah with the SA-12 system


12 posted on 01/17/2010 8:09:35 AM PST by jhpigott
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To: Fennie

Syria will lose - big time.


13 posted on 01/17/2010 8:22:32 AM PST by mom4melody
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To: Enchante; 17th Miss Regt; hennie pennie

after doing a little homework, I’m inclined to believe they could be referring to the SA-22s as Enchante mentioned, which Syria does have in its inventory http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantsir-S1

There are also reports Syria could possess the SA-20 (which is another variant of the S-300 system)http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S-300_(missile)#Operators_and_other_versions

I gotta believe Israel is not getting worked up over Syria’s equipping/training Hezbollah with the SA-2s, my bet would be either the SA-20s or SA-22s, which could pose a modest threat to the IAF in the event of operations over Lebanon


14 posted on 01/17/2010 8:25:21 AM PST by jhpigott
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To: Enchante; 17th Miss Regt; hennie pennie; 1COUNTER-MORTER-68; maquiladora

-Sounds like there could be more to this story. Reportedly, the IDF has mobilized to N. Israel for military exercises. Could be cover for a strike on Hezbollah . . .

3:15pm An Israeli army patrol crossed into the Lebanese side of the border village of Ghajar and made a 300-meter penetration of the area.
1:10pm NNA: Israeli warplanes flew low over south Lebanon, drawing fire from Lebanese army guns.


15 posted on 01/17/2010 8:30:32 AM PST by jhpigott
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To: jhpigott
SA-2 anti-aircraft missiles are 1960s technology. It was designed to bring down non-manoeuvrable high altitude bombers. I seriously doubt they pose any threat to IAF F-16s or F-15s

The modern SA-2 is not your fathers SA-2. Digital upgrades are available from multiple sources for most older Soviet SAMs.

16 posted on 01/17/2010 8:31:13 AM PST by Starwolf
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To: Candor7; SJackson

POST OF THE YEAR.


17 posted on 01/17/2010 8:31:24 AM PST by Yehuda (Land of the free, THANKS TO THE BRAVE!)
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To: Candor7

CANDOR 7:

“And why stop there? Take over Syrias Air bases and use them to fly to Iran and take out their nuclear program. Blow the hell out of them. “

BUMP IT AGAIN.


18 posted on 01/17/2010 8:32:52 AM PST by Yehuda (Land of the free, THANKS TO THE BRAVE!)
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To: Carry_Okie

Timing? More like a media diversion... Ignore what Egypt is doing with their steel and water Gaza border wall, ignore that Egypt is not caving to Iran and Syria - perhaps?


19 posted on 01/17/2010 8:35:34 AM PST by PIF
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To: jhpigott

I agree. Those critters are likely to make Israel a bit apprehensive. But not the SA-2. Not even the digitally upgraded versions.


20 posted on 01/17/2010 8:40:49 AM PST by 17th Miss Regt
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To: Yehuda; ExTexasRedhead
KI think that Bibi is the leader of the Free Western World after seeing his UN speech. Obama vacated that seat with his UN ( I apologize for and hate America speech at the UN)speech.

Bibi should rattle the pillars of heaven. G_D expects him to.

21 posted on 01/17/2010 8:41:19 AM PST by Candor7 ((The effective weapons Again st Fascism are ridicule, derision , truth (.Member RA))
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To: jhpigott; Yehuda
Thank you for the update, jhpigott.

I don't recall reading about this here at FR, do you?

Report: Hizbullah Deployed Syrian-Made Missiles Capable of Destroying Israel

http://wap.naharnet.com/servewap.asp?storyid=057481A277A7B06FC22576AB00215DC5

Hizbullah has reportedly recently deployed advanced Syrian-made surface-to-surface missiles on Lebanese territory that are capable of hitting almost any target in Israel. The report carried by the British defense weekly magazine "Jane's" said the projectiles are a clone of Iran's Fateh-110 missile which has a range of 250 kilometers and carries a 500-kg warhead capable of causing significant damage and distinguishing the levels of precision of the objectives.

Jane's military correspondent Alon Ben-David quoted Israeli military sources as confirming that the type M-600 missiles were deployed in Lebanon for the first time. "Syria puts no limits on arms supplies to Hizbullah, and therefore, we must understand that any kind of combat weapons in the possession of the Syrian army will ultimately reach Hizbullah," Ben-David quoted an Israeli military source as saying.

22 posted on 01/17/2010 8:42:00 AM PST by hennie pennie
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To: Yehuda

Fox-2!!!!!

23 posted on 01/17/2010 8:50:14 AM PST by Candor7 ((The effective weapons Again st Fascism are ridicule, derision , truth (.Member RA))
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To: Fennie

doh!!


24 posted on 01/17/2010 8:58:56 AM PST by dennisw (It all comes 'round again --Fairport)
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To: Fennie

That’s depressing. Syria is a secular country and has one of the most enfranchised Christian communities in the Middle East. It would be a shame for anything to happen that could stir Islamic radicalism there.


25 posted on 01/17/2010 9:06:08 AM PST by AzaleaCity5691
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To: romanesq
What happened to the UN peacekeepers? They have been recording the movement of missiles for quite a while into Lebanon.

Even though they don't work at night, I'm sure they're watching everything.

26 posted on 01/17/2010 9:06:30 AM PST by SJackson (In wine there is wisdom, In beer there is freedom, In water there is bacteria.)
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To: All

Top Syrian presidential aide Brigadier-General Mohammed Suleiman, assassinated in August 2008, reportedly supplied Hezbollah with the advanced SA-8 anti-aircraft missile system, according to The Times of London.

The Russian-made SA-8 surface-to-air missile system is a highly mobile, short-range tactical system, the first mobile air defense missile system to incorporate its own engagement radars on a single vehicle.


27 posted on 01/17/2010 9:10:23 AM PST by Fennie
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To: Fennie
Countdown to fulfillment of Isaiah 17? Isaiah 17:1 : An Oracle Against Damascus:

"See, Damascus will no longer be a city but will become a heap of ruins.

28 posted on 01/17/2010 9:13:03 AM PST by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: SJackson

The infiltration with missiles of various sizes has been going on unimpeded for quite a while. The arsenal in its overall size now must be very impressive. The UN has once again proved itself feckless.


29 posted on 01/17/2010 9:15:48 AM PST by romanesq (For George Soros so loved the world, he gave us Obama)
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To: ExSoldier

You got it. This prophecy has never been fulfilled to date. Coming soon to the planet earth??? I think so!!!


30 posted on 01/17/2010 9:49:44 AM PST by Anti-Hillary (Yo Barry, IF FOR 20 YEARS YOU STAY IN THE PEW, IT'S BECAUSE YOU SHARE THE VIEW!!!!!)
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To: Flavius; All

A friend reminded me today:

Isaiah 17:1 - Woe to Damascus. It has been taken away from being a city, it has become a ruinous heap.

Damascus is a 2000 year-old city and is still standing .. for now!


31 posted on 01/17/2010 9:52:33 AM PST by CyberAnt (Healthcare is not a RIGHT guaranteed by the Constitution)
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To: AzaleaCity5691

“It would be a shame for anything to happen that could stir Islamic radicalism there.”

right....

/s


32 posted on 01/17/2010 10:17:38 AM PST by Yehuda (Land of the free, THANKS TO THE BRAVE!)
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To: Fennie
An American source says that Syria allowed Hezbollah ITSN'T THAT THE SAME THING? Syria is Hezbollah? Or Is Hezbollah Palenstien.See same thing eh?
33 posted on 01/17/2010 10:18:03 AM PST by ColdOne (:^))
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To: Fennie

Well, 2009 is over. I may need to add 2010 in there now.


34 posted on 01/17/2010 10:34:45 AM PST by G8 Diplomat
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To: Fennie

Sorry, but this is news? Hezbollah has always been known as a Syrian proxy force. They don’t even hide that either; if you look at Hezbollah rallies in Beirut, they ALWAYS have Syrian flags with them. Not Palestinian flags or Arab League flags, Syrian flags.


35 posted on 01/17/2010 10:56:31 AM PST by ksm1
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To: Anti-Hillary
I have thought for many "moons" that we're in a race to the fulfillment of either Isaiah 17 or Ezekiel 38:14-17

To which I can only add: RAPTURE READY?

36 posted on 01/17/2010 12:27:37 PM PST by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: Fennie

LOL. Funny that entirely different source (Times of London) calls another antiquated (early ‘70s tech) SAM system “advanced.” In their defense, however, the Ruskies are still fielding the system. SA-22s would be more significant. Still, given the nature of hezbollah, I’d think the Syrians/Iranians would be giving them old SA-14/18s.


37 posted on 01/17/2010 1:21:31 PM PST by Constantine XI Palaeologus ("Vicisti, Galilaee")
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To: jhpigott; hennie pennie

Some info on the SA-2 here :

http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0oGkj13h1NLsXgAULpXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTE1OWFzYzJ1BHNlYwNzcgRwb3MDMQRjb2xvA3NrMQR2dGlkA01BUDAwN18xMTI-/SIG=11rnao8ra/EXP=1263851767/**http%3a//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S-75_Dvina

Mite be something else,,,
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“3:15pm An Israeli army patrol crossed into the Lebanese side of the border village of Ghajar and made a 300-meter penetration of the area.
1:10pm NNA: Israeli warplanes flew low over south Lebanon, drawing fire from Lebanese army guns.”
~~~
New Moon Jan.21st,,,

Guess who gets the first bomb ?...;0)


38 posted on 01/17/2010 2:49:42 PM PST by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: Fennie

Well DUH, adding a lit match to gasoline will also cause a huge fire!!!


39 posted on 01/17/2010 8:49:35 PM PST by prophetic (0Bama = 1 illegal president = 32 illegal, unconstitutional & unnecessary CZARS to do his job!!)
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68

I am beginning to think this current IDF exercise may be just posturing . . . at least for now. Netanyahu just arrived in Berlin for talks with Merkel (http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1263147918666&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull)

I don’t see the IDF starting ops against Hezbollah or anyone else with Bibi out of town


40 posted on 01/18/2010 5:52:40 AM PST by jhpigott
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; bigheadfred; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; ...

Gee, y’think? ;’) Thanks Fennie.


41 posted on 01/18/2010 9:04:42 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Happy New Year! Freedom is Priceless.)
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To: jhpigott

I am beginning to think this current IDF exercise may be just posturing
~~~
Very well could be,,,

After a few of these dry runs hezzi will get sloppy...


42 posted on 01/18/2010 5:20:47 PM PST by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: Fennie

What the US tells Syria is irrelevant. What Israel knows is what is import.


43 posted on 01/18/2010 5:25:19 PM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Tax the poor. Taxes will give them a stake in society)
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