Skip to comments.U.S. Official: Arming Of Hezbollah Could Spark Israel-Syria War
Posted on 01/17/2010 6:32:35 AM PST by Fennie
An American source says that Syria allowed Hezbollah operatives to train within its territory in the use of advanced SA2 anti-aircraft missile batteries, the Kuwaiti daily Al Rai reported Sunday.
In an interview, the senior U.S. official warned that if Syria supplies Hezbollah with this type of missile, Israel will bomb Damascus and a war will likely ensue.
According to the official, Israel has warned Syria not to allow the transfer of the SA2 missiles into the hands of Hezbollah, and views the transfer of such missiles as the crossing of a red line.
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So why is the (lowly and largely ineffectual against Israeli planes) SA2 crossing the line when Silkworms are not, or SA7s etc all of which Hezbollah has in plentiful supply? Not to mention advanced short range missles which are nearly capeable of hitting Tel Aviv?
What i don’t get is why the Israelis are drawing this red line. As others have mentioned, there are certainly other weapons in Hezbollah’s aresenal more capable of inflicting damage in Israel.
SA-2 anti-aircraft missiles are 1960s technology. It was designed to bring down non-manoeuvrable high altitude bombers. I seriously doubt they pose any threat to IAF F-16s or F-15s
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Duh. From Obama's genius' who arm the palestinians.
It's TIMING all about.
Blow the hell out of them.
What happened to the UN peacekeepers? They have been recording the movement of missiles for quite a while into Lebanon.
Now Israel is noting this advanced missile system and drawing a red line. They have no choice.
Advanced SA2's??? SA2s are ancient. Like 50 years old. The article mentioned remote control sites. I wonder if they meant SA-12 systems.
jhpiott, perhaps freeper 17thMissRegt has a point --- many reporters know less than nothing about weapons, so perhaps the journalist misidentified it.
Hopefully, there will be better reportage about this development soon to be found online.
Most likely SA-22s? Syria signed a deal to import SA-22s from Russia, financed by Iran..... some are supposed to be transferred to Iran, and I’ll bet that Israel knows the Iranians are pushing to have SA-22s in Lebanon.....
I would be inclined to believe it was misidentified if the Syrians had in their inventory the SA-12 system (a/k/a S-300), which I do not believe they do.
I could be wrong (if someone could link to a story about Syrians possessing the SA-12 system) and if I am, then I could see how Israel would be super pissed if Syria was training/equipping Hezbollah with the SA-12 system
Syria will lose - big time.
after doing a little homework, I’m inclined to believe they could be referring to the SA-22s as Enchante mentioned, which Syria does have in its inventory http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantsir-S1
There are also reports Syria could possess the SA-20 (which is another variant of the S-300 system)http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S-300_(missile)#Operators_and_other_versions
I gotta believe Israel is not getting worked up over Syria’s equipping/training Hezbollah with the SA-2s, my bet would be either the SA-20s or SA-22s, which could pose a modest threat to the IAF in the event of operations over Lebanon
-Sounds like there could be more to this story. Reportedly, the IDF has mobilized to N. Israel for military exercises. Could be cover for a strike on Hezbollah . . .
3:15pm An Israeli army patrol crossed into the Lebanese side of the border village of Ghajar and made a 300-meter penetration of the area.
1:10pm NNA: Israeli warplanes flew low over south Lebanon, drawing fire from Lebanese army guns.
The modern SA-2 is not your fathers SA-2. Digital upgrades are available from multiple sources for most older Soviet SAMs.
Timing? More like a media diversion... Ignore what Egypt is doing with their steel and water Gaza border wall, ignore that Egypt is not caving to Iran and Syria - perhaps?
I agree. Those critters are likely to make Israel a bit apprehensive. But not the SA-2. Not even the digitally upgraded versions.
Bibi should rattle the pillars of heaven. G_D expects him to.
I don't recall reading about this here at FR, do you?
Report: Hizbullah Deployed Syrian-Made Missiles Capable of Destroying Israel
Hizbullah has reportedly recently deployed advanced Syrian-made surface-to-surface missiles on Lebanese territory that are capable of hitting almost any target in Israel. The report carried by the British defense weekly magazine "Jane's" said the projectiles are a clone of Iran's Fateh-110 missile which has a range of 250 kilometers and carries a 500-kg warhead capable of causing significant damage and distinguishing the levels of precision of the objectives.
Jane's military correspondent Alon Ben-David quoted Israeli military sources as confirming that the type M-600 missiles were deployed in Lebanon for the first time. "Syria puts no limits on arms supplies to Hizbullah, and therefore, we must understand that any kind of combat weapons in the possession of the Syrian army will ultimately reach Hizbullah," Ben-David quoted an Israeli military source as saying.
That’s depressing. Syria is a secular country and has one of the most enfranchised Christian communities in the Middle East. It would be a shame for anything to happen that could stir Islamic radicalism there.
Even though they don't work at night, I'm sure they're watching everything.
Top Syrian presidential aide Brigadier-General Mohammed Suleiman, assassinated in August 2008, reportedly supplied Hezbollah with the advanced SA-8 anti-aircraft missile system, according to The Times of London.
The Russian-made SA-8 surface-to-air missile system is a highly mobile, short-range tactical system, the first mobile air defense missile system to incorporate its own engagement radars on a single vehicle.
"See, Damascus will no longer be a city but will become a heap of ruins.
The infiltration with missiles of various sizes has been going on unimpeded for quite a while. The arsenal in its overall size now must be very impressive. The UN has once again proved itself feckless.
You got it. This prophecy has never been fulfilled to date. Coming soon to the planet earth??? I think so!!!
A friend reminded me today:
Isaiah 17:1 - Woe to Damascus. It has been taken away from being a city, it has become a ruinous heap.
Damascus is a 2000 year-old city and is still standing .. for now!
Sorry, but this is news? Hezbollah has always been known as a Syrian proxy force. They don’t even hide that either; if you look at Hezbollah rallies in Beirut, they ALWAYS have Syrian flags with them. Not Palestinian flags or Arab League flags, Syrian flags.
To which I can only add: RAPTURE READY?
LOL. Funny that entirely different source (Times of London) calls another antiquated (early ‘70s tech) SAM system “advanced.” In their defense, however, the Ruskies are still fielding the system. SA-22s would be more significant. Still, given the nature of hezbollah, I’d think the Syrians/Iranians would be giving them old SA-14/18s.
Some info on the SA-2 here :
Mite be something else,,,
“3:15pm An Israeli army patrol crossed into the Lebanese side of the border village of Ghajar and made a 300-meter penetration of the area.
1:10pm NNA: Israeli warplanes flew low over south Lebanon, drawing fire from Lebanese army guns.”
New Moon Jan.21st,,,
Guess who gets the first bomb ?...;0)
Well DUH, adding a lit match to gasoline will also cause a huge fire!!!
I am beginning to think this current IDF exercise may be just posturing . . . at least for now. Netanyahu just arrived in Berlin for talks with Merkel (http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1263147918666&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull)
I don’t see the IDF starting ops against Hezbollah or anyone else with Bibi out of town
Gee, y’think? ;’) Thanks Fennie.
I am beginning to think this current IDF exercise may be just posturing
Very well could be,,,
After a few of these dry runs hezzi will get sloppy...
What the US tells Syria is irrelevant. What Israel knows is what is import.