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For $65, tourists get peek at Los Angeles gangland
Yahoo News (AP) ^ | January 17, 2010 | Thomas Watkins

Posted on 01/17/2010 7:46:45 AM PST by Cheap_Hessian

LOS ANGELES – Only miles from the scenic vistas and celebrity mansions that draw sightseers from around the globe — but a world away from the glitz and glamour — a bus tour is rolling through the dark side of the city's gang turf.

Passengers paying $65 a head Saturday signed waivers acknowledging they could be crime victims and put their fate in the hands of tattooed ex-gang members who say they have negotiated a cease-fire among rivals in the most violent gangland in America.

If that sounds daunting, consider the challenge facing organizers of LA Gang Tours: trying to build a thriving venture that provides a glimpse into gang life while also trying to convince people that gang-plagued communities are not as hopeless as movies depict.

"There's a fascination with gangs," said founder Alfred Lomas, a former member of the Florencia 13 gang. "We can either address the issue head-on, create awareness and discuss the positive things that go on in these communities, or we can try to sweep it under the carpet."

Several observers have questioned the premise behind the tours, and some city politicians have been more blunt.

"It's a terrible idea," City Councilman Dennis Zine said. "Is it worth that thrill for 65 bucks? You can go to a (gang) movie for a lot less and not put yourself at risk."

More than 50 people brushed aside safety concerns for Saturday's maiden tour to hear how notorious gangs got started and bear witness to the struggling neighborhoods where tens of thousands of residents have been lured into gang life.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: aliens; crimaliens; crime; diversity; gangs; immigration; losangeles; ms13; tourism
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1 posted on 01/17/2010 7:46:45 AM PST by Cheap_Hessian
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To: Cheap_Hessian

Wait until a busload of tourists gets robbed and raped.

A Cease Fire between gangs in LA? Suuuuure.....

More like a coalition.


2 posted on 01/17/2010 7:48:57 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: SunkenCiv; fieldmarshaldj; Bender2

ping


3 posted on 01/17/2010 7:51:04 AM PST by Perdogg ("Is that a bomb in your pants, or are you excited to come to America?")
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To: Cheap_Hessian

“It’s a terrible idea,” City Councilman Dennis Zine said. “Is it worth that thrill for 65 bucks? You can go to a (gang) movie for a lot less and not put yourself at risk.”

...I’m sure if this midget brain has his way, he’ll outlaw it. I’m not pro gang but this is capitalism at work IMO. People bungee cord jump, white water raft and mountain climb with instructors. They sign waivers with those activities too.


4 posted on 01/17/2010 7:51:11 AM PST by albie
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To: Cheap_Hessian

I lived in So Cal from 1964 to 1993.

Many of these “gang areas” were turned into crap from the gangs...

Not the other way around.

Illegals who could not or would not get a job.
Drugs sold on every corner and in the schools.

These were communities of hard working people of all colors before the 60’s.

Gangs are the result of millions of illegals over-running the communities. They didn’t create a cleaner productive life when they got here. The illegals turned the areas into a micro-system just as bad as what they left behind.

You can put lipstick on a pig.........


5 posted on 01/17/2010 7:53:41 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: Cheap_Hessian

That’s funny the founder originally was in
F13. I know the neighborhood quite well! If any of you go on it, see if he’ll stop at Boys Burgers for lunch on 1774 E. Florence Ave.


6 posted on 01/17/2010 7:54:41 AM PST by MAD-AS-HELL (Hope and Change. Rhetoric embraced by the Insane - Obama, The Chump in Charge)
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To: Cheap_Hessian
Sounds like a interesting business plan until somebody gets killed. Too many crazy angry people in poor areas, some poor Japanese tourist will end wishing they had gone to the wax museum instead.
7 posted on 01/17/2010 7:55:18 AM PST by dog breath
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To: ridesthemiles

true..most of these areas were inhabited by Blacks but the hispanics moved in. The area is mixed now but more hispanic than black. On time, you get to see dead pit bulls lying in the street. It would make Chet99 proud!


8 posted on 01/17/2010 7:56:16 AM PST by MAD-AS-HELL (Hope and Change. Rhetoric embraced by the Insane - Obama, The Chump in Charge)
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To: Cheap_Hessian

“Kids are you noticing all this plight?”

*gunshot* *scream*

“Roll ‘em up!”


9 posted on 01/17/2010 7:57:39 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: Cheap_Hessian

But hey...if it brings in TAX revenue, let the buses roll!


10 posted on 01/17/2010 7:58:15 AM PST by unixfox (The 13th Amendment Abolished Slavery, The 16th Amendment Reinstated It !)
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To: Cheap_Hessian

doesn’t surprise me at all

there people on these tours would the same people who would greet aliens if they first ;landed and would shout let us love each other .

Having grown up on the street there isn’t much to look at but look over your shoulder.
Sadly theres another part of our population which live in their ivory towers, in their elitist gated communities and all rich upper class neighborhood who have no clue about anything and get a rush if they do something like this.

They might give to the poor but not because they think they are helping that person but because they want to brag how much they gave away and make THEMSELVES FEEL BETTER


11 posted on 01/17/2010 7:59:05 AM PST by manc (WILL OBAMA EVER GO TO CHURCH ON A SUNDAY OR WILL HE LET THE MEDIA/THE LEFT BE FOOLED FOR EVER)
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To: Cheap_Hessian

How to save $65:

Just take the wrong freeway exit


12 posted on 01/17/2010 7:59:46 AM PST by bigbob
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To: Cheap_Hessian

Are you allowed to carry a mac 10, drink colt 45 and smoke crack on the bus?


13 posted on 01/17/2010 8:00:46 AM PST by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: ridesthemiles

You are right on the spot.


14 posted on 01/17/2010 8:02:55 AM PST by James C. Bennett
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To: ridesthemiles
Two places you couldn't pay me to go to in 2010:

Southern Cal ganglands

Mexico

Not necessarily in that order.

15 posted on 01/17/2010 8:03:17 AM PST by Flycatcher (God speaks to us, through the supernal lightness of birds, in a special type of poetry.)
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To: dog breath

there’s also too many angry crazy snobs living in their rich elitist areas or gated communities too.


16 posted on 01/17/2010 8:03:37 AM PST by manc (WILL OBAMA EVER GO TO CHURCH ON A SUNDAY OR WILL HE LET THE MEDIA/THE LEFT BE FOOLED FOR EVER)
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To: ridesthemiles

“Illegals who could not or would not get a job.”

Why should they get a job? They’re here illegally. If they’re not working, that means the system’s working.


17 posted on 01/17/2010 8:05:45 AM PST by TypeZoNegative (Pro life & Vegan because I respect all life, Republican because our enemies don't respect ours.)
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To: manc
there people on these tours would the same people who would greet aliens if they first ;landed and would shout let us love each other .


18 posted on 01/17/2010 8:06:11 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: Cheap_Hessian

I had to work in that cesspool. I went through it every fracking day—for FREE. Something about fools and their money?


19 posted on 01/17/2010 8:06:46 AM PST by OCCASparky (Obama--Playing a West Wing fantasy in a '24' world.)
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To: mamelukesabre
Are you allowed to carry a mac 10, drink colt 45 and smoke crack on the bus?

You must be thinking of the deluxe package. That's an additional $20. : O

20 posted on 01/17/2010 8:06:59 AM PST by library user
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To: Cheap_Hessian
Passengers paying $65 a head Saturday signed waivers acknowledging they could be crime victims and put their fate in the hands of tattooed ex-gang members who say they have 'negotiated' a cease-fire among rivals in the most violent gangland in America.

Ha! ha!

OK. now that I'm through laughing I have to give these guys credit for their marketing idea.

I don't know if there's enough money in this venture to keep the gangs at bay.

Eventually they will want more and more and won't appreciate being exploited.

These people are playing with fire!

STE=-Q

21 posted on 01/17/2010 8:07:03 AM PST by STE=Q ("It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its government" ... Thomas Paine)
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To: TypeZoNegative

And if they are not working and receiving benefits, then what?


22 posted on 01/17/2010 8:09:49 AM PST by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: library user

The upgrade is worth it!


23 posted on 01/17/2010 8:10:33 AM PST by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: manc

Yeah, but the rich snobby crazy folk have security people and lawyers to do the threatening for them if you run the tourist bus through their gated community.


24 posted on 01/17/2010 8:13:39 AM PST by dog breath
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To: Cheap_Hessian

lol! i live in a quiet southeastern community and they can come here to get a look at Mexican gangs for free.


25 posted on 01/17/2010 8:15:10 AM PST by dalebert
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To: Cheap_Hessian

I wonder how much extra it costs to get involved in a drive-by shooting...


26 posted on 01/17/2010 8:17:23 AM PST by joethedrummer
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To: Cheap_Hessian

For $65., step this way to view our opened septic tank. Didja’ ever see anything like it?

One born every day.


27 posted on 01/17/2010 8:19:07 AM PST by healy61
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To: ridesthemiles

“I lived in So Cal from 1964 to 1993.

Many of these “gang areas” were turned into crap from the gangs...

Not the other way around.

Illegals who could not or would not get a job.
Drugs sold on every corner and in the schools.

These were communities of hard working people of all colors before the 60’s.

Gangs are the result of millions of illegals over-running the communities. They didn’t create a cleaner productive life when they got here. The illegals turned the areas into a micro-system just as bad as what they left behind.

You can put lipstick on a pig.........”

RIGHT ON!!!

THIS is the truth! Same thing here in Detroit.

It fries me to NO end to hear how we ‘white’ folk trashed things and moved out to the suburbs, leaving the ruins to the poor people of color. NO FREAKIN’ WAY.

I see the SAME thing happening to the ‘suburbs’ my parents moved out of Detroit to. Used to be a nice, kept neighborhood. But folks have been moving in who just don’t give a rats @$$ about RESPONSIBILITY. And so now, it’s looking more ‘ghetto’ every day.


28 posted on 01/17/2010 8:21:51 AM PST by joethedrummer
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To: Cheap_Hessian

Ah, similar to the Ball State University social work school’s tour of the public housing complex Cabrini Green in Chicago many years ago.


29 posted on 01/17/2010 8:23:44 AM PST by Bronzy
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To: Cheap_Hessian
When I was in the 4th grade, approximately 1970, we had a lady who came in to teach us "BLACK STUDIES." I must tell you I lived in a Jewish, white, middle to upper middle class community. God Forbid they would have taught us anything to do with that history. Anyway, we did some interesting things...We had to memorize the lyrics to the song "LIVING IN SHAME." by The Supremes, we went to see the movie "SOUNDER" and for our last field trip we went to visit the only all black school on Long Island at the time, WYANDANCH. WE WENT TO SEE THE BLACK KIDS...I remember it distinctly...we walked single file through the school and observed the black people like we were at the zoo...we sat, by ourselves, in their lunch room and then we went back to our school to talk about the black children.

I think about that alot because the kids I grew up with in 1960's Jewish Long Island are the kids in charge now. In charge in Washington and in charge in Hollywod. I want you to know this is how we grew up...filled with guilt and misplaced compassion.

After this "COURSE" in black history, I remember coming home, confronting my wonderful, dear Father and telling him, "BLACKS WERE SLAVES BECAUSE OF YOU!" (Can you imagine...but that's what they were telling us). My Father took me by the shoulders, sat me down, and gave me his first and only LISTEN UP LITTLE GIRL talks. He explained his family history, and how his Father was on his own when he was 12 and he had his little sister with him and how his learend a trade in the newspaper business and had to do everything for himself without any help. I will never, forget that day..it was the day I became a Conservative.

God, I miss my Father.

I thought of this when I read this story. Liberals do the most ridiculous things to justify their stupid ideas.

30 posted on 01/17/2010 8:24:01 AM PST by Hildy (This Christmas, the Democrats have given America the one gift that keeps on taking.)
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To: ridesthemiles

I was born in SoCal after WWII and grew up there “before the freeways”, believe it or not. There was actually space between towns.

Sure, there were race problems. There are bigots everywhere. The “gang fights” were racial, but not common.
Drugs, also, were not common in our town.

IMHO, any time you pack people together, just as penning any type of animals in, it creates turmoil. Some look for safety in one group, while others join another group with different opinions.

Hatred and anger seem so easy in life, while caring for, and trusting, each other is difficult.

Me, I would not pay a nickel to see this tour. But, some need their eyes opened. Maybe, then we can help eliminate slums.


31 posted on 01/17/2010 8:24:14 AM PST by wizr (Keep the Faith! Even when it gets tough! Nothing else will do.)
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To: mamelukesabre

For and extra 20 bucks, I heard they will let you slap a ho.


32 posted on 01/17/2010 8:25:12 AM PST by 999replies
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To: Cheap_Hessian

What next? -A fantasy camp for wannabe ‘gangstas’???

“...no son, you gotsta turn da gun SIDEWAYS when you pointin’ it at a dude... makes you look mo intimidatin’!

Yeah, DATS betta! Naah try it aginn...”


33 posted on 01/17/2010 8:26:48 AM PST by joethedrummer
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To: mamelukesabre

Good point. I never thought about them taking bennies.


34 posted on 01/17/2010 8:28:17 AM PST by TypeZoNegative (Pro life & Vegan because I respect all life, Republican because our enemies don't respect ours.)
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To: Cheap_Hessian

lol, I used to deliver snack food to liquor stores in the LA area and I frequently would go to Compton, Inner Long Beach, and South Central. It was fun and a surreal place, and for the most part there was a Korean or Indian couple behind bulletproof glass in every liquor store there. The HUGE post office building in the middle of South Central is also a trip.

The number one rule is this - Don’t go there after dark. Plus, gang members usually will not bother you if you don’t LOOK AT THEM. Follow those two rules and you’ll be fine.


35 posted on 01/17/2010 8:37:47 AM PST by struggle ((The struggle continues))
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To: Hildy

I always get a kick out of telling my kids that my old professor at CSULB, Ron Karenga, invented Kwanzaa. They always say “I thought that came from AFRICA?!?!” To which I respond, “No, it comes from a fat, black professor who tortured women!”


36 posted on 01/17/2010 8:40:56 AM PST by struggle ((The struggle continues))
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To: Hildy

WYANDANCH. WE WENT TO SEE THE BLACK KIDS

Know the area well, I grew up in North Babylon. Now I guess someone should start a bus tour there in Wyandanch.Never went to their school.


37 posted on 01/17/2010 8:59:04 AM PST by bikerman (Buck Farack)
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To: bigbob; dfwgator


Click the pic for the YouTube link for the scene at 4:00
38 posted on 01/17/2010 9:01:00 AM PST by RandallFlagg (30-year smoker, E-Cigs helped me quit, and O wants me back smoking again?)
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To: MAD-AS-HELL
1774 E. Florence Ave.

in LA or further south?

39 posted on 01/17/2010 9:05:43 AM PST by Fester Chugabrew (Liberal Land: Where lies are true and the truth is a smear campaign.)
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To: struggle

Wasn’t he also a “criminal” too?


40 posted on 01/17/2010 9:06:38 AM PST by machogirl (First they came for my tagline.)
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To: RandallFlagg

Last time this was on during Christmas, they edited out this scene.

Obamatized I guess.


41 posted on 01/17/2010 9:08:02 AM PST by machogirl (First they came for my tagline.)
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To: machogirl

Well, there IS a lot of harsh language in it (Which I should have mentioned in the post I made...oops!)


42 posted on 01/17/2010 9:10:41 AM PST by RandallFlagg (30-year smoker, E-Cigs helped me quit, and O wants me back smoking again?)
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To: RandallFlagg

I don’t think that they deleted the scene for that reason. I have seen this on TV before, and the hubcap scene was always in there (language deleted), on TV B.O. (before obama).

This was one of the funny parts in the movie.


43 posted on 01/17/2010 9:13:28 AM PST by machogirl (First they came for my tagline.)
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To: RandallFlagg

Thanks for the youtube post, I’m going to watch it since the USA channel (I believe that was the channel) edited it all out.


44 posted on 01/17/2010 9:14:48 AM PST by machogirl (First they came for my tagline.)
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To: Cheap_Hessian

Gangland that is an insult why is that not wiped out??


45 posted on 01/17/2010 9:17:11 AM PST by Cheetahcat (Zero the Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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To: machogirl

Good point.
It’s not politically correct to show black folks as criminals on TV anymore.
Even though they had no problem showing white folks committing crimes in the same movie.
And I’ll bet that they showed THAT scene when you watched it.


46 posted on 01/17/2010 9:17:39 AM PST by RandallFlagg (30-year smoker, E-Cigs helped me quit, and O wants me back smoking again?)
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I have to wonder what the tour bus operator says over the PA to his passengers as he is driving through these neighborhoods.

“This is your bus driver speaking. We are now entering the such and such gang neighborhood. You’ll see on your right a 17 year old girl with three out-of-wedlock children from three different men. On your left you’ll see a burned down house from bums who lived in it after the owners had taken a sub-prime mortgage and couldn’t afford the payments on it and simply walked away. Hey, there’s Mookie and Pookie showing each other their new bling-bling and their 27th new girlfriends dressed like ho’s named Contura and LaShaniqua! Folks, don’t mind the thousand-mile-stares-off-death from the diverse population in this ‘hood. They only hate you because you are white. If they try to shake us down all we have to do is call Rev. Al Sharpton and the Rev. Jesse Jackson to help us out.”


47 posted on 01/17/2010 9:18:21 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine
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To: RandallFlagg

yep.


48 posted on 01/17/2010 9:18:42 AM PST by machogirl (First they came for my tagline.)
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To: RandallFlagg

“Do you think these guys know The Commodores?”


49 posted on 01/17/2010 9:20:57 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: Cheap_Hessian

$65 for the La Gangs Tour... but wait, there’s more

for an additional $250, you can get three take-home samples of crack cocaine purchased directly from the Crips, the Bloods, and the Los Campadres... but wait, there even more.. get shot on the tour and you get to keep any bullets lodged in your body as a complimentary souvenir.


50 posted on 01/17/2010 9:21:40 AM PST by UglyinLA
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