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Obama confidant's spine-chilling proposal - Cass Sunstein wants the government to "cognitively.."
Salon ^ | Jan. 15, 2010 | Glenn Greenwald

Posted on 01/17/2010 1:52:32 PM PST by neverdem

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To: neverdem
No, sorry. Greenwald is scum. There is nothing honest about him. Look up sock puppet and his picture is there. This guy twists more facts and statements than Team 0 even wishes he could. In short... Typical. Lying. Liberal. Scum.

-- Just my not so humble opinion.

201 posted on 01/18/2010 9:42:17 AM PST by Drill Thrawl (Another day, another injury, another step closer. Are you prepared?)
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To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity

“Most of us believe socialism is what the socialists want us to believe it is - a share-the-wealth program.”

Actually it’s more like a ‘share the poverty’ program.

All pigs will be ‘equal’ — equally poor, that is!

Of course some pigs — a few choice ones — will be a MORE equal!

But the above stage won’t be achieved until the leaders of the ‘party’ no longer find the ‘useful idiots’ — useful!

At that point they will be ‘eliminated’ ushering in the final stage of ‘stabilization’ or ‘normalization.’

See the full series:

Yuri Bezmenov ex KGB Psycological Warfare Techniques. Subversion & Control of Western Society 1/7

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JN0By0xbst8&feature=PlayList&p=52E369C842A46818&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&in

STE=Q


202 posted on 01/18/2010 9:57:46 AM PST by STE=Q ("It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its government" ... Thomas Paine)
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To: DGHoodini; Carry_Okie
>>He belongs in a mental hospital under heavy sedation.
"Our Institute was used by all classes of the population and members of every political party...We thus had a great many Nazis under treatment at the Institute.  Why was it then, since we were completely non-party, that our purely scientific Institute was the first victim which fell to the new regime?  The answer to this is simple...We knew too much.  It would be against medical principles to provide a list of the Nazi leaders and their perversions [but]...not ten percent of the men who, in 1933, took the fate of Germany into their hands, were sexually normal..."
http://www.defendthefamily.com/pfrc/books/pinkswastika/html/the_pinkswastika_4th_edition_-_final.htm
Nothing to see there.   Move along.

203 posted on 01/18/2010 10:15:24 AM PST by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: GeronL
Has anyone ever seen a government so chock-full of cazy people?

Just your typical,run-of-the-mill collection of pervs,commies,terrorists,and tax-cheats.You know....."DEMOCRATS"!

204 posted on 01/18/2010 10:16:09 AM PST by massmike (...So this is what happens when OJ's jury elects the president....)
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To: Cincinna
Isn’t Sunstein the one who wants to give animals the right to get lawyers and sue in US Courts?

That's what I recall.

205 posted on 01/18/2010 10:27:21 AM PST by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: All

A friend of mine, a retired Marine SgtMaj, was hit 4 times by spyware when he logged on to Oath Keepers. Be warned


206 posted on 01/18/2010 10:34:23 AM PST by gunner03
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To: magellan
Thanks for the link. I did write: "but he appears to be an honest moonbat."
207 posted on 01/18/2010 10:44:11 AM PST by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: PIF
Ummmmmmmmm.....no, they are not communists. They don't fit the definition. You can call them that and I don't give a damn. But factually, they are socialists with a Hitler like fascist flavor .

These idiots call themselves progressives. It's just a new name on a old tired philosophy. What makes them appear new is that they use economics as a tool and this is new in the U.S. but not new in Europe. Communists don't need economics. They resent the concept of it and control everything including personal property.

These new progressives see the economy and industry as a funding mechanism for their social work. They see personal property as a reward and class identifier..

I am not trying to be flip here, just trying to inform you. Calling them Commies will weaken your position because it is easy for them to prove they are not.

BTW, I get your point regarding the efforts to rid ourselves of them, but your method can only be used post revolution and that is another topic.

Changing the heart and mind of a indoctrinated socialist takes time and happens in stages. The first stage is often a jump to a libertine philosophy. I see a lot of that lately. The anger and the fear of losing ones freedom is a powerful message. But it takes time and it is not always permanent.

If I read you right, you are not advocating anything that takes time and you would prefer to line them up and shoot them. The Russians tried that with their red and white armies during their revolution. They never really recovered from the damages done to their society and are still today doing the same thing. They are still shooting political enemies. Eventually you would think that the final solution would work, but it never does.

The best thing for us to do is get back to the Republic we created, and jettison all the changes that have been made since WWII, including numerous constitutional amendments. I would prefer to see Senators appointed as they were in the beginning, for example.

I could yak about this for days. The fact is, calling these people commies is not going to hurt their feeling, nor is it going to help your case.

208 posted on 01/18/2010 10:47:10 AM PST by Cold Heat
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To: Cold Heat

“The best thing for us to do is get back to the Republic we created, and jettison all the changes that have been made since WWII, including numerous constitutional amendments. I would prefer to see Senators appointed as they were in the beginning, for example.”

Agreed! :)

“The fact is, calling these people commies is not going to hurt their feeling, nor is it going to help your case.”

Disagree, as their methods to date fit the classic textbook definition. Not trying for cause - just saying. :(

“Communists don’t need economics. They resent the concept of it and control everything including personal property.”

Which is what Hussein is trying to achieve with the intentional distruction of the US economy. Control of private property, cf the engangered species act. This is a long time coming.


209 posted on 01/18/2010 11:11:53 AM PST by PIF
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To: Cold Heat

“Next time you try to screw with me you might remember that I don’t take crap without a return volley.”

I actually, literally laughed at that.

Are you completely unaware that you made yourself look like a (fool/petulant child/agent provocateur), or some combination thereof?

Have you no idea how such behavior is regarded here?

By the way, if that was a “volley,” I would suggest that you consider checking for damage before commencing the chest thumping. You didn’t even cause the needle on the old Flamage Detector(TM) to tremble.

Maybe you can pick up some hints here:

http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/

For you, I would think Palooka, or perhaps Enfant Provocateur or Impostor.

Bye now.


210 posted on 01/18/2010 12:15:34 PM PST by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: PIF

What’s that graphic you posted in #191? Looks interesting.


211 posted on 01/18/2010 12:23:25 PM PST by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; bigheadfred; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; ...
Cass Sunstein wants the government to "cognitively infiltrate" anti-government groups... Often mentioned as a likely Obama nominee to the Supreme Court, Sunstein is currently Obama's head of the Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs where, among other things, he is responsible for "overseeing policies relating to privacy, information quality, and statistical programs." In 2008, while at Harvard Law School, Sunstein co-wrote a truly pernicious paper proposing that the U.S. Government employ teams of covert agents and pseudo-"independent" advocates to "cognitively infiltrate" online groups and websites -- as well as other activist groups -- which advocate views that Sunstein deems "false conspiracy theories" about the Government. This would be designed to increase citizens' faith in government officials and undermine the credibility of conspiracists... Sunstein advocates that the Government's stealth infiltration should be accomplished by sending covert agents into "chat rooms, online social networks, or even real-space groups." He also proposes that the Government make secret payments to so-called "independent" credible voices to bolster the Government's messaging (on the ground that those who don't believe government sources will be more inclined to listen to those who appear independent while secretly acting on behalf of the Government).
Thanks neverdem.
212 posted on 01/18/2010 12:39:59 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Happy New Year! Freedom is Priceless.)
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To: Allegra; neverdem

Heh... yeah, they’re everywhere. :’) Also some post-2000-election sleepers seem to have been activated. ;’)


213 posted on 01/18/2010 12:45:05 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Happy New Year! Freedom is Priceless.)
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To: dsc
Graphic is of the normal Chinese procedure for mass execution. A common occurrence there as you know. I got it some dozen of year ago when there was an actual interest here in the US about just how the Chinese run their country. Got my site banned in China - not bad for a half hour of work, eh?
214 posted on 01/18/2010 1:15:33 PM PST by PIF
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To: PIF

“not bad for a half hour of work, eh?”

Not bad, indeed.

Are the pictures the signed work of an artist? Are they copyrighted?

I’ll bet there would be a lot of interest in seeing high-resolution files of those images.


215 posted on 01/18/2010 1:23:35 PM PST by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: dsc

Don’t know who smuggled that photo out - but it is no fake if that’s what you are getting at. There are far worse things going on within China’s prison system - like vivasection for organs...


216 posted on 01/18/2010 2:08:29 PM PST by PIF
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To: PIF

“Don’t know who smuggled that photo out - but it is no fake if that’s what you are getting at.”

No, I wasn’t insinuating anything of the sort. I’m just interested.

Like so many people today, I seem to have become something of an amateur collector of graphic images. Photos of that sort are just the sort of thing I put in my “atrocities” file.


217 posted on 01/18/2010 2:40:22 PM PST by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: dsc

“one scientist thought it could be possible it may never blow like it has in the past again.”

Feel free and please share...


218 posted on 01/18/2010 3:53:28 PM PST by PIF
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To: PIF

I’m glad to share.

Do you have a high-res version of that image?


219 posted on 01/18/2010 4:05:07 PM PST by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: neverdem

bmfl


220 posted on 01/18/2010 4:12:02 PM PST by Thumper1960 (A modern so-called "Conservative" is a shadow of a wisp of a vertebrate human being.)
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