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Possible Space Wars In The Near Future
RIA Novosti/Space War ^ | 1/18/2010 | by Ilya Kramnik

Posted on 01/17/2010 8:42:29 PM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld

The U.S. media suspects China and India of developing anti-satellite weapons. An article to this effect has been published the New Scientist magazine. Until recently, only the Soviet Union, its legal successor Russia and the United States were capable of developing anti-satellite weapons. U.S. analysts now think that China and India are acquiring similar capabilities. To what extent are such fears justified?

It is hard to overestimate the role played by military satellite systems. Since the 1970s, an increasingly greater number of troop-control, telecommunications, target-acquisition, navigation and other processes depend on spacecraft which are therefore becoming more important.

At this point, it is impossible to imagine the armed forces of most industrial states, including Russia, without combat-ready satellite clusters comprising spacecraft of various types. The space echelon's role is directly proportional to the development level of any given nation and its armed forces.

However, satellite clusters are hardly invulnerable. Ever since the U.S.S.R. and the United States launched their first military satellites, efforts have been made to develop anti-satellite systems. Such efforts were intensified after the creation of initial missile defense systems comprising the highly important space echelon.

Orbital satellite interceptors, surface-to-space and air-to-space missiles were eventually developed.

Research aiming to develop orbital and ground-based anti-satellite laser guns making it possible to either destroy spacecraft or knock out their electronics and optical devices deserves special mention. However, few results have been achieved in this area.

China, which claims the right to be a global power, prioritizes the development of anti-satellite weapons.

(Excerpt) Read more at spacewar.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: antisatellite; indianmilitary; interceptors; lasers; militarysatellite; miltech; missiledefense; opinion; pla; satellite; satelliteweapons; space; spacewarfare

1 posted on 01/17/2010 8:42:30 PM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld
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To: sonofstrangelove
You could pretty well cut a country off from space through the simple expedient of launching a large barrel of finishing nails into orbit then exploding it.

Those nails whizzing around at 15,000 MPH (or thereabouts ~ whatever it takes) would have a very high probability of ELIMINATING any more space launches until someone figured out how to build "space armor" or a tactical "space take out" laser of some kind.

No doubt everybody is ready to launch a barrel or two of nails on warning.

Our current level of penetration into space is going to be shortlived.

2 posted on 01/17/2010 8:47:31 PM PST by muawiyah ("Git Out The Way")
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Although the exact name of the missile is not known, sources mentioned a KT-1/SC-19 system described as being based on a modified DF-21 medium-range ballistic missile or its commercial derivative, the KT-2, with a kinetic kill vehicle mounted. The 11-meter DF-21 missile weighs 15 metric tons.
3 posted on 01/17/2010 8:51:02 PM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("I have learned to use the word "impossible" with the greatest caution."-Dr.Werner Von Braun)
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To: sonofstrangelove
The U.S. media suspects// How am I supposed to believe THE U.S. MEDIA??????I'm just sayin'
4 posted on 01/17/2010 9:05:16 PM PST by ColdOne (:^))
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To: sonofstrangelove

The main objective of American foreign policy in the early third millenium ought to be to build an alliance with India, Japan, the UK (and any others truly willing) to build a coalition for civilization.


5 posted on 01/17/2010 9:07:10 PM PST by dodger
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To: sonofstrangelove

Sooner or later it’ll happen. I say sooner.


6 posted on 01/17/2010 9:09:02 PM PST by oneolcop (Lead, Follow or Get the Hell Out of the Way!)
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To: dodger

I would include South Korea and Taiwan in that list.


7 posted on 01/17/2010 9:09:06 PM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("I have learned to use the word "impossible" with the greatest caution."-Dr.Werner Von Braun)
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To: sonofstrangelove
thanks, for the information / thread / post.

8 posted on 01/17/2010 9:09:26 PM PST by skinkinthegrass (Zer0 to the voters: "Here's my DeathCARE Plan"...now....just die (quicky), please. :^)
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To: skinkinthegrass

You are welcome

:)


9 posted on 01/17/2010 9:10:20 PM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("I have learned to use the word "impossible" with the greatest caution."-Dr.Werner Von Braun)
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To: sonofstrangelove

I thought all this was rendered moot by particle beams?


10 posted on 01/17/2010 9:11:26 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard
I thought all this was rendered moot by particle beams?

Do you know of working, deployable particle beam weapons?

11 posted on 01/17/2010 9:16:47 PM PST by TChris ("Hello", the politician lied.)
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To: sonofstrangelove
I would include South Korea and Taiwan in that list.

Indeed!

12 posted on 01/17/2010 9:17:25 PM PST by dodger
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To: oneolcop
Sooner or later it’ll happen.

As I understand it, there's serious concern that this could happen spontaneously from a runaway cascade of collisions. This came up when the Chinese did their "test" and pushed us that much closer to it.

13 posted on 01/17/2010 9:19:07 PM PST by dr_lew
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To: muawiyah

At orbital speeds styrofoam prills would be just as lethal, but would eventually evaporate in sunlight.


14 posted on 01/17/2010 9:30:43 PM PST by null and void (We are now in day 361 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: sonofstrangelove
The issue with such a space war would be that the moment several satellites were destroyed there would be so much debris whizzing about that the satellites of the aggressor (and since for now it is only the US, Russia, China and - soon - India that have the ASAT weapons they do have satellites of their own) would also be damaged. It is a form of limited MAD. However, in the event of a conventional (or other) war where the weaker state knows it is about to lose anyways, it may decide sacrificing its satellite core is a justifiable cost if it means taking out the satellite capability of the stronger foe. Thus, future space wars will most likely either be extremely limited (if at that even ....just demonstrating you have the capacity if sufficient, just as nuclear weapons simply require demonstrated capacity) whereby maybe one or two satellites are removed, or if it happens full bore then it will be in a situation where the weaker state believes it has crossed a certain loss-point and it doesn't matter any more.

Obviously, if 'softer' kill methods bear fruit (e.g. like the dazzling lasers and other methods being worked on that do not require a hard kill vehicle) then it changes the situation, since satellites can then be taken out without necessarily compromising your own satellites with thousands upon thousands of whizzing hyper-sonic bullets.

15 posted on 01/17/2010 9:40:38 PM PST by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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To: TChris
Do you know of working, deployable particle beam weapons?

Do I need to?

We used atomic bombs in war nearly 60 years ago... People have been playing their music at home and in their cars with laser beams for over 20 years. I also remember reading about submarines using ultra-low radio frequencies over 20 years ago.

How smart do you have to be to figure out that new weapons systems have been developed during the past 65 years, and that using particle beams to blow things out of the sky or space is a likely design?

Of course, by now even those things might be considered antiques to the black ops people.

16 posted on 01/17/2010 9:43:20 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: TChris
We used atomic bombs in war nearly 60 years ago

Oops. That was supposed to be nearly 65 years ago...

17 posted on 01/17/2010 9:45:24 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard
That's what I thought: Pure speculation.

But thanks for playing.

18 posted on 01/17/2010 9:50:22 PM PST by TChris ("Hello", the politician lied.)
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To: TChris

LOL, tell that to Clancey!
You’re a real font of imagination, aren’t you?
Do yourself a favor - - keep your day job.


19 posted on 01/17/2010 9:55:55 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard
You’re a real font of imagination, aren’t you?

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20 posted on 01/17/2010 10:35:01 PM PST by dr_lew
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To: All

Minotaur rocket.
21 posted on 01/17/2010 10:55:28 PM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("I have learned to use the word "impossible" with the greatest caution."-Dr.Werner Von Braun)
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To: dr_lew

Yep. Not if but when. It will be very interesting -in the Chinese proverbial sort of way.


22 posted on 01/17/2010 11:02:12 PM PST by oneolcop (Lead, Follow or Get the Hell Out of the Way!)
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To: sonofstrangelove

It looks like there will be a huge market for space janitors in the future! How about a super-hardened cone with a fusion blast furnace in the opening to whiz around space near Earth to scoop up and destroy all that nasty debris. What could go wrong? ;>


23 posted on 01/17/2010 11:34:51 PM PST by roadcat
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To: dr_lew

24 posted on 01/17/2010 11:49:30 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard
You’re a real font of imagination, aren’t you?

Yeah, well you can't fight wars with your imagination.

Call me when you have real hardware and not the theoretical stuff that's been around since the late 50's.

25 posted on 01/18/2010 6:42:12 AM PST by TChris ("Hello", the politician lied.)
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