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Dems: Coakley down 10
MSDNC ^ | 01/19/10 | Norah O'Donnell

Posted on 01/19/2010 9:37:37 AM PST by freespirited

Edited on 01/19/2010 9:44:42 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

According to a top Brown campaign adviser, there are "longer lines outside Boston than inside. Not good sign for Coakley. Scott's voters highly motivated."

A Democratic source says get-out-the-vote efforts have been good for Coakley, but adds, "I don't know if the machine gets you 10 points."


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KEYWORDS: ma2010; marthacoakley; scottbrown; turnout
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Poor Norah. This must be so hard on her.
1 posted on 01/19/2010 9:37:37 AM PST by freespirited
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To: freespirited
Its shaping up to be a crushing landslide win for Brown. SWEEET!

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find only things evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelogus

2 posted on 01/19/2010 9:39:24 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: freespirited

Everything I’ve been reading looks like this won’t be close.


3 posted on 01/19/2010 9:39:33 AM PST by goodolemr
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To: freespirited

did Rush just read a quote from a Kennedy complaining that Coakley had campaign signs out before Ted’s corpse was cold?


4 posted on 01/19/2010 9:39:37 AM PST by GeronL (http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com)
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To: freespirited

The machine.
This is a battle of the people vs. the machine.


5 posted on 01/19/2010 9:40:51 AM PST by counterpunch (In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem. Government is the problem.)
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To: counterpunch

The people win


6 posted on 01/19/2010 9:42:05 AM PST by scooby321
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To: GeronL
Glad this isn't Illinois because Coakley would pull a surprising surge around 6pm and by the time the polls closed she'd be called the winner by 8%
7 posted on 01/19/2010 9:42:40 AM PST by shadeaud ("If you can't beat them, arrange to have them beaten." -- George Carlin)
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To: GeronL

I believe Scott’s leading, but I ain’t buying this.

I have NEVER seen a campaign willing to essentially say “all is lost” this early in the day. Campaign flacks are Baghdad Bobs right up until the concession speech. Unless you’re trying sew complacency on the other side.

Don’t fall for it, folks. VOTE!


8 posted on 01/19/2010 9:43:21 AM PST by GOP_Resurrected
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To: counterpunch
The machine. This is a battle of the people vs. the machine.
Didn't they make a movie about that? The Terminator?
9 posted on 01/19/2010 9:44:58 AM PST by NEWwoman
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To: scooby321

>>The people win<<

From what I’ve heard regarding Brown, this may be a HUGE win for the people of the US, but not much of one for MA. They’ll still be stuck with him, though the rest of us can revel in the Dem Supermajority being destroyed.

Not to mention the blow to O, Nancy, et al.


10 posted on 01/19/2010 9:45:11 AM PST by RobRoy (The US today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: GeronL

I dont know about signs, but she announced her candidacy within a couple days of his death. Pissed off the Kennedy family.


11 posted on 01/19/2010 9:45:16 AM PST by freespirited (People talk about "too big to fail." Our government is too big to succeed. --Chris Chocola)
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To: goldstategop
Its shaping up to be a crushing landslide win for Brown. SWEEET!

That is VERY unlikely. Remember that the RCP poll average is skewed by the utterly absurd PJTV "poll" showing a 15% lead for Brown. And some other internet polls are suspect. It is also odd that Rasmussen refuses to do another poll since his "fial" Jan 12th one showing Coaklet +2. If Brown does win, I think it will be by thousands or perhaps hundreds of votes. With a margin of 500 or less, Coakley will win on a fraudulent recount.

12 posted on 01/19/2010 9:45:19 AM PST by montag813
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To: freespirited
This is how Republicans win - when they run a solid center-right Republican who makes no apologies, is willing to fight the Rats, and who stays out of the social issue minefield without alienating evangelicals. Fricking Massassuchetts - I don't want to hear any more of this crap about how Republicans need to be "moderate" or "move to the middle" in order to win in the liberal Northeast.
13 posted on 01/19/2010 9:45:39 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Praying for a nice comfortable victory. Senator Brown, that has a nice ring to it


14 posted on 01/19/2010 9:47:23 AM PST by shadeaud ("If you can't beat them, arrange to have them beaten." -- George Carlin)
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To: shadeaud
In Mass, the Dems have had little need to cheat -—
Therefore, they suck at it!
No practice!
15 posted on 01/19/2010 9:49:09 AM PST by Kansas58
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To: goldstategop

I find a landslide highly unlikely. I think the two key numbers are % of Democrats who crossover for Brown (must be north of 15%) and % of Independents who go with Brown (must be north of 65%) and even with that, I think it’s only a three point Brown win


16 posted on 01/19/2010 9:49:27 AM PST by Will not Live for another Man
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

And does not make that stupid, “I’ll reach across the aisle, my friends” crap a pillar of his campaign. Damn! I am still pissed I ever heard that!


17 posted on 01/19/2010 9:49:57 AM PST by Bad Jack Bauer (Fat and Bald? I was BORN fat and bald, thank you very much!)
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To: GeronL
did Rush just read a quote from a Kennedy complaining that Coakley had campaign signs out before Ted’s corpse was cold?

That would be impossible unless hell froze over in late August of 2009.

18 posted on 01/19/2010 9:50:35 AM PST by Dahoser (Separation of church and state? No, we need separation of media and state.)
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To: GOP_Resurrected

Rush says NECN is saying most voters are leaning Coakley in their exit polls.


19 posted on 01/19/2010 9:52:56 AM PST by GeronL (http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com)
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To: RobRoy

So what’s your beef with Brown, anyway?


20 posted on 01/19/2010 9:53:13 AM PST by RightOnline
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To: counterpunch
This is a battle of the people vs. the machine.

"Where have you been?
It's alright we know where you've been.

What did you dream?
It's alright we told you what to dream!

So welcome, welcome, welcome...to The Machine."

- - Pink Floyd

21 posted on 01/19/2010 9:55:16 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (An armed man is a citizen. An unarmed man is a subject.)
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To: GeronL
NECN? Went there - nothing. I guess tonight we'll know for sure if that's just a rumor.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find only things evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelogus

22 posted on 01/19/2010 9:55:58 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

IOW, McCain would have lost this race. :)


23 posted on 01/19/2010 9:56:18 AM PST by RobRoy (The US today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: GeronL

What is NECN?


24 posted on 01/19/2010 9:56:28 AM PST by GoCards ("We eat therefore we hunt...")
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To: RightOnline

No single thing. I am not saying he’s really bad. I’m just saying there is plenty of negative there, as with Romney. But voting for him against Coakley really is a no brainer.

I was not even going to vote in the presidential election until Palin was brought in. And to be frank, if McCain HAD won, and was still alive (IOW, Palin is just Veep) I think we just might be in even worse shape than we are now, partly because the DEMS would be saying “I told you so”.


25 posted on 01/19/2010 9:59:23 AM PST by RobRoy (The US today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: GoCards
New England Cable News
26 posted on 01/19/2010 10:00:05 AM PST by cp124 (The government junkie can't live without the fix.)
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To: RobRoy
From what I’ve heard regarding Brown, this may be a HUGE win for the people of the US, but not much of one for MA. They’ll still be stuck with him...

Where did that comment come from? This is the most conservative candidate I have ever seen run for statewide office here (in my lifetime, anyhow). We would be honored to have Scott Brown represent us in the senate for any period of time.

27 posted on 01/19/2010 10:00:40 AM PST by SamAdams76 (I am 51 days away from outliving Jim Jones)
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To: RobRoy
this may be a HUGE win for the people of the US, but not much of one for MA.

so MA was better off with Ted Kennedy or would be better of with Coakley?

28 posted on 01/19/2010 10:04:39 AM PST by latina4dubya ( self-proclaimed tequila snob)
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To: freespirited

She’s was testing the waters while he was sick.


29 posted on 01/19/2010 10:05:38 AM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: GoCards

New England Cable News, an all-news TV channel. I’m pretty sure that the other night a reporter described the recent Michael Meehan commotion as “(the reporter) slipped on a grate and Meehan tried to help him up...”


30 posted on 01/19/2010 10:05:56 AM PST by ConservativeStatement (Obama lies, Freedom dies)
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To: shadeaud

Scott of the Senate replaces the Sot of the Senate.


31 posted on 01/19/2010 10:06:17 AM PST by seton89 (Vote Coakley, or we'll just amend the state constitution again.)
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To: freespirited; GeronL
I dont know about signs, but she announced her candidacy within a couple days of his death. Pissed off the Kennedy family.

Coakley made no secret of her desire to run for Kennedy's seat well before Kennedy died in August of last year. Kennedy nephew Stephen E. Smith later told the Boston Herald, "She set up a committee six months before my uncle died. There were people on the corner with a huge 'Coakley for Senate' sign two days after his funeral." Coakley formally announced her candidacy a week after Kennedy's death. One of Coakley's main rivals for the Democratic nomination, Rep. Michael Capuano, told the Herald, "I couldn't do it. I couldn't step over someone's grave."

Massachusetts: Dem attacks on Coakley get personal

32 posted on 01/19/2010 10:06:35 AM PST by smoothsailing
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To: GoCards

New England Cable News (NECN) is a regional cable television network owned and operated by Comcast serving the New England region of the United States.


33 posted on 01/19/2010 10:08:16 AM PST by Gator113 (Obama is America's First FAILED "light skinned African American [Pres-dent] with no Negro dialect..")
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To: GOP_Resurrected

Just spoke with a friend who follows MA. politics closely and he said do not underestimate the Dems. They will do everything they can to pull this out. I just hope it’s too late for them to turn it around.
The voting in my town was huge, as large as it was for the 2008 race.


34 posted on 01/19/2010 10:12:07 AM PST by surrey
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To: surrey
The voting in my town was huge, as large as it was for the 2008 race.

What's the political orientation in that town?

35 posted on 01/19/2010 10:13:47 AM PST by GOP_Resurrected
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To: massgopguy

My guess is Brown Brown 54 Croakly 44.5 Kennedy 1.5 add the 3.5 Dim Cheat Machine you will get Brown 51.5 Croakly 48 Kennedy 1.5


36 posted on 01/19/2010 10:14:35 AM PST by Republic Rocker
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To: Will not Live for another Man

“I find a landslide highly unlikely. I think the two key numbers are % of Democrats who crossover for Brown (must be north of 15%) and % of Independents who go with Brown (must be north of 65%) and even with that, I think it’s only a three point Brown win”

I think you are exactly right. The demographics do not favor a Brown blowout, but a close 1-2 point victory if reasonable assumptions are made - like 2/3 of independents going for Brown, and 95% of republicans. This means that you have to get about 10% of dems to vote for Brown to squeak out a win. I think all of this is possible, but anymore is wishful thinking. Turnout will be the key. The only way there could be a blowout is if dumbcrats stay home.

I expect about a 2 point win for Brown. Final results Brown 50, Coakley 48, Kennedy 2. This will allow 0zer0 to claim he almost pulled it off for Coakley to try to keep other dumbcrats from throwing 0zer0 under his own bus.


37 posted on 01/19/2010 10:15:05 AM PST by SDShack (0zer0care = "The Final Solution" - Socialized Soylent Green Healthcare)
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To: latina4dubya

>>so MA was better off with Ted Kennedy or would be better of with Coakley?<<

I’ve asked people who thought I should vote no matter what: If I were a Jew, should I vote for Hitler or Stalin?


38 posted on 01/19/2010 10:16:53 AM PST by RobRoy (The US today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: GOP_Resurrected

It went for Obama big time. Huge Irish Catholic population. Most of the people I saw were middle aged to elderly. Virtually no yoots.


39 posted on 01/19/2010 10:18:12 AM PST by surrey
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To: counterpunch

A couple notes about the “machine” in Mass.
1.The machine is rusty and hasn’t been used for a long time.
2. Browns ascent was so sudden and late that the dems were caught flat footed.


40 posted on 01/19/2010 10:19:34 AM PST by cornfedcowboy (Trust in God, but empty the clip.)
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To: GeronL

I think he said she organized an exploratory committee 6 months before he died.


41 posted on 01/19/2010 10:23:34 AM PST by katykelly
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To: RobRoy
I’ve asked people who thought I should vote no matter what: If I were a Jew, should I vote for Hitler or Stalin?

Hitler or Stalin? they weren't even from the same country... so are you saying that Massachusetts was better off with Ted Kennedy, or that it would be better off with Coakley than with Brown? if you are saying that all three are the same, then how is Massachusetts any worse off with Brown?

42 posted on 01/19/2010 10:23:49 AM PST by latina4dubya ( self-proclaimed tequila snob)
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To: Republic Rocker
Brown 51.5
Croakly 48
Kennedy 1.5

Identical to the prediction I posted on another thread last night. GMTA or whatever.

43 posted on 01/19/2010 10:28:45 AM PST by freespirited (People talk about "too big to fail." Our government is too big to succeed. --Chris Chocola)
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To: latina4dubya
I will wait before I celebrate, but if Scott Brown wins tonight, I will raise a glass of Johnnie Walker Black.

If {God help us} he doesn't, I'll drink the whole damn bottle of Grey Goose, and call 911 for a stomach pump.

44 posted on 01/19/2010 10:31:23 AM PST by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorist savages - In Honor of Standing Wolf)
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To: latina4dubya

I know they are not from the same country. I’m saying what if that were your choice, who would you vote for.

To put it a different way, considering the choices I have in the state of Washington, who would I vote for?

The answer?

I bought a small farm in rural central Kentucky.


45 posted on 01/19/2010 10:31:23 AM PST by RobRoy (The US today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: freespirited

Too bad this isn’t Japan. Martha’s aide would push her head down on the chopping block and lop it off...in short, she would get the same treatment she is selling to the unborn and those over sixty who are not politically connected.


46 posted on 01/19/2010 10:31:43 AM PST by MIchaelTArchangel (Is anyone in the 0bama administration competent at anything?!!?)
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To: latina4dubya

The question is rhetorical, but the point is made.

CA....


47 posted on 01/19/2010 10:32:26 AM PST by Chances Are (Whew! Seems I've found that silly grin again!)
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To: USS Alaska

“...I will raise a glass of Johnnie Walker Black.”

Me too! And I live in Washington. I still have 3/4 of a bottle. We buy it every time we fly to Chicago.


48 posted on 01/19/2010 10:33:45 AM PST by RobRoy (The US today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: RobRoy

Compared to Coakley? Trust me the people of this state will gain the most with a Brown win.


49 posted on 01/19/2010 10:34:26 AM PST by outpostinmass2
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To: outpostinmass2

Yeah, I agree. It’s just that the bar is so mind-numbingly low now.


50 posted on 01/19/2010 10:35:23 AM PST by RobRoy (The US today: Revelation 18:4)
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