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Top Senate Democrat Outlines 'Nuclear Option' Strategy for Health Care
Foxnews.com ^ | Updated January 19, 2010 | Trish Turner

Posted on 01/19/2010 12:43:24 PM PST by ColdOne

A top Senate Democrat for the first time Tuesday acknowledged that the party is prepared to deal with health care reform by using a controversial legislative tactic known as the "nuclear option" if Republican Scott Brown wins the Massachusetts Senate election.

Calling the state's special election "an uphill battle to put it mildly," Senate Majority Whip Dick Durbin, D-Ill., said "there are options to still pursue health care" should Democrat Martha Coakley lose to Brown.

Congressional Democrats have been discussing several options, since a Brown win would break the party's 60-vote, filibuster-proof majority at a critical time for health care reform. Durbin, the No. 2 Democrat in the Senate, described a combination of tactics to get what his party wants out of health care reform.

First, he said the House could simply approve the Senate bill, sending it straight to President Obama's desk.

Then, Durbin said, the Senate could make changes to the bill by using the nuclear option, known formally as "reconciliation," a tactic that would allow Democrats to adjust parts of health care reform with

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KEYWORDS: 111th; bhohealthcare; democrat; democrats; durbin; healthcare; liberalfascism; nuclearoption; obamacare; rapeofliberty; reconciliation; socializedmedicine
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To: ColdOne
Dear Senator Turbin,

Do it. Please.

Sincerely,


TonyInOhio

21 posted on 01/19/2010 1:00:00 PM PST by TonyInOhio ( Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered.)
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To: ColdOne
If I recall correctly, the Senate bill - which originated in the Senate - contains at least one revenue-raising provision: the penalty "tax" on people who fail to buy insurance policies that make Pelosi feel all warm and fuzzy inside, which means that the Senate bill cannot be the ultimate bill because it didn't originate in the House, where all revenue-raising bills are required to originate according to cl. 1, sec. 7, Art. I of the Constitution.
22 posted on 01/19/2010 1:01:17 PM PST by Oceander
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To: OldDeckHand

I think these people are so out of touch with us, they are going to do it... They will just “double down” (as Rush says)

And none of them care a bit about our Founding Fathers..That is why they have to go.


23 posted on 01/19/2010 1:01:28 PM PST by ColdOne (:^))
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To: ColdOne

There’s a reason its called the “nuclear option” — because you are not supposed to use it.


24 posted on 01/19/2010 1:02:57 PM PST by PMAS
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To: ColdOne

There’s a reason its called the “nuclear option” — because you are not supposed to use it.


25 posted on 01/19/2010 1:02:57 PM PST by PMAS
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To: HarleyD

There is usually no major legislation that is passed during the election year. The Dems became arrogant and thought the American people would just swallow.

They are realizing now that they will commit political suicide if they pass this legislation. I would love for them to try to do it.


26 posted on 01/19/2010 1:10:03 PM PST by truthandlife ("Some trust in chariots and some in horses, but we trust in the name of the LORD our God." (Ps 20:7))
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To: mattdono
NEVER AGAIN be afraid to play hardball with this pukes.///// That is correct..... For years they have been taking advantage of that fact..... Time to give as good as we get!!!
27 posted on 01/19/2010 1:13:54 PM PST by ColdOne (:^))
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To: OldDeckHand
I'm not sure that they could actually get 51 votes using the nuclear option.

In 1967, when there were 68 Democrats and 20 RINOs in the Senate, VP Humphrey tried to use the nuclear option, and even with LBJ and HHH working full-time, they could not get 51 votes.

A US Senator is the most powerful legislator in the world, precisely because of the filibuster. Any Senator who votes for a nuclear option is reducing his own personal power, permanently.

28 posted on 01/19/2010 1:14:41 PM PST by Jim Noble (Hu's the communist?)
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To: ColdOne

Reconciliation and Nuclear Option are not the same thing.
Reconcilitation is an existing process only for budget bills. Nuclear Option is an actual change of Senate rules to eliminate the filibuster. They could do this and their left wing is starting to scream pretty loud for them to do so. Then they can spend the next 10 months cramming through everything on their wish-list, elections be damned.


29 posted on 01/19/2010 1:16:55 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: gov_bean_ counter

They’re going to lose a lot of “blue dog” votes.
They’ll lose them simply because of the “closeness” of this race, and a Brown win will double that fear.


30 posted on 01/19/2010 1:18:49 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: ColdOne

Like the more well-known nuclear option, it should cost every single one of them their jobs.

But we know that won’t happen.


31 posted on 01/19/2010 1:23:35 PM PST by wastedyears (If I'm going out, I'm going out like Major Kong.)
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To: gov_bean_ counter

If Brown wins in Mass, healthcare is dead in the House. Period.

Yep.


32 posted on 01/19/2010 1:27:03 PM PST by CaptainMorgantown
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To: ColdOne

I think the Dick Durbin is bluffing again.


33 posted on 01/19/2010 1:32:25 PM PST by Baladas ((ABBHO))
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To: ColdOne

Rats may consider the nuclear option to railroad health control through. But the Rats better consider the consequences when angry mobs come out swinging with the true intention of literally kicking their rats ass.

Shove me and I shove back.


34 posted on 01/19/2010 1:37:04 PM PST by o_zarkman44 (Obama is the ultimate LIE!)
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To: Oceander

IIRC, what Reid did to move the current Senate bill is to take an unimportant House bill that wasn’t going to be passed, and he edited out almost all the text and substituted all of the text for the current Senate bill. That’s also how they were able to have a floor vote on it without going through committee. (The 3 bills that they used to build the final Senate bill all went through committee, though.)

Therefore, it is already set up to be a reconciliation bill with regard to procedural matters. They still have to make some major edits, and under the Byrd Rule it cannot have any provisions longer than 10 years.

But I could be wrong.


35 posted on 01/19/2010 1:38:12 PM PST by savedbygrace
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To: ColdOne
The Bank Robber's Dilemma: You've already handed over the note to the teller, claiming to be armed and demanding money. You hear sirens as a very large number of police cars responds to the bank's silent alarm. No matter what you do from this point, you're going to prison for a very long time if you're caught. Do you (1) take an extra minute to get the cash before you run for it, or (2) run for it immediately and risk decades in prison but with no chance of getting the loot but hoping the extra minute gives you a chance to get away in the confusion?

The Democrat Dilemma of 2010: You've already offended the vast majority of voters with a really stupid move, led by Obama and Pelosi. No matter what you do, there is a high probability that you will be voted out in November. Do you (1) try to push through the offending step toward socialism under the assumption that you can't make patriotic Americans any angrier than they already are, or (2) claim you never supported THAT bill and hope the dodge gives you time to get away in the confusion and not be blamed by your district's voters?

It's a close call, but I'm hoping the Dems will panic (assuming Brown has a large enough margin that fraud can't take the election from him) and kill this terrible "health care" bill.

36 posted on 01/19/2010 1:39:48 PM PST by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: ColdOne
With a pussy in the WH, and an almost completely open southern border, and a totally incompetent 'national security' staff, I wish the dems would just shut up about nuclear options.


37 posted on 01/19/2010 1:46:12 PM PST by chuck_the_tv_out ( <<< click my name: now featuring Freeper classifieds)
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To: MrB

38 posted on 01/19/2010 1:51:31 PM PST by Bobalu (I AM JIM THOMPSON)
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To: ColdOne
NOVEMBER 2, 2010


39 posted on 01/19/2010 1:56:56 PM PST by avacado
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To: ColdOne

They can try but I don’t think if Brown wins that they will even be able to get 51 votes.


40 posted on 01/19/2010 2:05:54 PM PST by chris_bdba
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