Posted on 01/20/2010 9:50:36 AM PST by EternalVigilance
Wednesday, January 20, 2010
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Keyes is a great speaker, but he’s a flake of the first magnitude. I suppose he would rather have Coakley?
Hey, Keyes finally shaved! He no longer looks like a homeless bum.
Well, that didn’t take long. Many conservatives are NEVER going to be satisfied. The GOP is so screwed. :(
Go away Alan get thee into a small room and think DEEP thoughts for the rest of your life.
Hey Alan, quit peeing in the punch bowl....
Time for the rubber room Alan. You’re embarrassing yourself, BADLY!
“Many conservatives are NEVER going to be satisfied.”
With socialism?
No.
I don’t know yet if Brown is a RINO, but if he is, it would have been better to beat Coakley with a real conservative.
What a weirdo is Alan. A smart weirdo, but a weirdo nonetheless.
Notice his guidelines for what makes a RINO:
Has no differences in principle with the socialist minded Democrats;
Embraces the substance of Obama's socialist agenda, but "opposes" Obama by criticizing his implementation of socialism, especially when it comes to fiscal matters;
Agrees in principle with the Democrats on the fundamental issues of justice and morality but employs the deceptive rhetoric of personal opinion to evade the questions of public law and policy they involve. Such issues include child-murder and other abrogations of the unalienable right to life, as well as the rejection of the God endowed rights of the natural family.
So far as we can tell, Scott Brown fits none of those qualifications, yet Keyes tries to slide him in as the "advance man" for the "RINO agenda."
Clearly, Alan Keyes has gone off the rails.
I suppose we have our own ‘Taliban’ wing.
I’m happy Brown won, just because of the health care issue. However, I don’t have any faith in the Republican party. Both parties are always looking for their next “star” who can win elections. They really don’t care what the person believes, if anything. It’s all about winning. This is why we have to be careful not to put too much trust in any politician. They will say anything to get elected. The Democrats view their base as being useful idiots, as do the Republicans.
In fact, this is why the pendulum swings from one party to the other every few years. Politicians promise what cannot be done. They fail, of course, and then the next challenger promises “change”, and for some reason, the American people believe it! Campaign promises are fundamentally dishonest. Why do we keep falling for them? Too bad we don’t have term limits.
That's the false choice.
Sure it would be better, but it's not necessarily possible in these states.
Hey, Alan, how did your campaign as a Conservative in a deep blue state like Illinois go?
When will people (on BOTH sides) learn that you cannot lead a nation as diverse as this with a single theme? What plays in Peoria is laughed at in Berkeley, while the “mainstream” San Franciscan is the “whacko leftist” any place more than about 200 miles from a major body of water.
I will take a “RINO” who is 80% with us to any Democrat who is 100% against us!
Sit down and shut up Keyes. All he has ever done is run his mouth. He is a right wing Jesse Jackson.
No, I think that he is warning us to look deeper than the politics of Obamacare. We hailed the recall of Grey Davis here in Kalifornia and look what we got.
While I will not accuse devout Conservatives of being cannibals.......there are those who are contrarians and it drives me crazy.
We may have to take back our Constitutional Republic one senate seat at a time and use friendly persuasion rather than fanatic pummelling.
Destroying non-Democrats is not helpful.
Then we could really have a great time celebrating a Coakley win, eh, Alan?!
1/19/2010 9:14:24 PM · 5 of 12 sam_paine to svxdave
He thanked Romney, and McCain! Things will get wierd around FR when people start to decide Brown is a "RINO."
But of course, that would be ok with Reagan's 11th commandment as long as it stops the slide into the abyss of the last, best hope for mankind.
“I don’t know yet if Brown is a RINO, but if he is, it would have been better to beat Coakley with a real conservative.”
We have a guy that will vote NO on socialized medicine, and likes tax cuts....THAT WON IN MASSACHUSETTS.
Sorry to tell Mr. Keyes, but we are not in the position to wish and hope when we need to climb out of this hole fast.
AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I wouldn't call them that, though I *would* refer to them as our "Daily KOS" wing - a small but vocal group of people who are completely unsatisfied with a candidate or politician unless that candidate or politician agrees with them, personally, 150% of the time. Unfortunately, because the members of this small but vocal group are usually some conglomeration of kooks and wackos (think: Buchananites, RonPaulians, etc.), there are almost no candidates or politicians who can hope to get more than 1-2% in a general election who will make these folks happy, so we have to hear their constant screeching.
A guideline for the conservative movement as we move forward is that we need to support real conservatives (i.e. people like DeMint, Palin, Hayworth, Rubio, Toomey, etc.) while avoiding the obvious fruits, flakes, kooks, and weirdos out there who want to try to present themselves as the Only True Conservatives (tm).
“Hey, Alan, how did your campaign as a Conservative in a deep blue state like Illinois go?”
Yes!
His was the first battle against Obama, and for all of his high-horse attitude, HE BLEW IT!
He is one of the main reasons why we have this nightmare today.
I understand what Dr. Keyes is trying to say.
Scott Brown WILL give us trouble down the road, just like the senators from Maine do.
However, his win is a MAJOR victory and killing Obamacare is worth any possible trouble he will give us in the future.
Not even that. The only reason we were able to defeat the second stimulus was with so-called Blue-dogs. The only reason we delayed the retreat on Obamacare long enought for Brown to matter was due to Lieberman, dirtbag Nelson, etc.
Do we think all the heroes at the Alamo were good Christian Nobility? Hell no. Lots of criminals and ne'er do wells! HEROES ALL!
I agree. I have to wonder if some of them aren’t really conservatives at all. Maybe they are Trojan horses pretending to be conservatives but really on the side of the Commies. Mind games ya know.
I don’t care if Brown is a RINO or not and I’m not sure he is a RINO. 2 years ago I would have cared. Not at this time. We needed to take that 60th vote away and I din’t give a darn who did it. If we don’t manage to stop this train wreck now we may never stop it. Any speed bump is a good thing. I like Keyes but this ticks me off.
I can't help but look at what Alan Keyes says without wondering what happened to the intelligent, articulate, and sane fellow who used to bear that name.
LOL, I noticed that you didn't address him as "Senator Keyes."
I will take a “RINO” who is 80% with us to any Democrat who is 100% against us!
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Me too! But when the RINOS’s go too far, we need to make sure they know that they will be voted out and replaced. We have let them get away with too much. I think some of them are really Dems posing as RINOS.
The problem here in California is that dumping Gray Davis was a START, but everyone thought it was the be all and end all. I seem to recall Arnold had a special election shortly after his initial election. There were a bunch of initiatives that may have saved us a lot of financial grief, as well as toning down the roar of the state legis-rats. Not only did all of the initiatives go down in flames, he ended up eviscerated worse than any of his opponents in his "Conan the Barbarian" movies.
Heck, even Tom Campbell has realized he can do more to save the state and the country from Washington than he can in the snake pit of Sacramento.
I am as conservative as Alan Keyes, and I’m elated over Scott Brown’s win, even if it means having to cuss him for being a RINO in the future. Scott Brown is one more sign that people are waking up from the stupor that brought us Obamao and the Democrat majority. As for Brown being an opening for Mitt, ...I don’t think so. Americans may have escaped Obamaocare, but Massachusetts has Mittcare dragging it down. Of course the struggle of conservatives against RINOs will go on in the Republican Party, but it is still the main tool in our arsenal of weapons against the left. We need to stop using it to commit political suicide, and turn it against the Democrats.
I think Mr. Keyes is making a stretch to state RINO’s masterminded this victory. Romney may have lurk around as to not be a liability visa vi “Romney Care”, but the Tea Party movement elevated Brown. If Brown crosses the Tea Party, he is done. So to the contrary, RINO and Romney are losers, second only to Democrats, in the Brown victory.
I wanted Brown to win. I’m happy he won, but only because of the health care bill. I don’t expect much else out of him, and I don’t understand why so many Freepers want him to be the new “star” of the party. You have to keep an eye on all of them.
“These men (government officials), in point of fact, are seldom if ever moved by anything rationally describable as public spirit; there is actually no more public spirit among them than among so many burglars or street-walkers.”
~ H. L. Mencken
Shut up, Alan.
“The person who agrees with you 80 percent of the time is a friend and an ally — not a 20 percent traitor.” Ronald Reagan - 1972
Keyes does have a bit of a point here. I think Scott is more conservative than your average RINO. He is not as conservative as I’d like. Nonetheless, for a man as conservative as he to get elected in MA is really amazing.
The electorate is now heavily involved in the primary process. I’d like to think that citizens, both Democrats and Republicans, will be successful in selecting quality candidates.
For conservatives, that means nominees who are actually conservative and are honest about their views, and who have demonstrated integrity necessary to stand their ground on the Hill.
For Democrats, I’d hope that at least they’d nominate honest people who genuinely believe in an open and transparent process. They are tired of being lied to, also.
We should not lose hope because Scott is not a hyper-conservative.
However, we should also not stop looking for the best genuine conservatives in every district. We should avoid running RINOs whenever possible.
I was once leaning in the direction of third-party. However, I can see now, and believe that the GOP can be restored to its conservative, constitutional principles by the conservative electorate... And that it’s far better than third party.
Alan Keyes is correct on this...regarding the long term implications.
Brown is NOT a true conservative (at least on moral issues). At best he is a right leaning moderate. Would I rather that the Dem won....No not at all. Brown is about as “conservative” as one can be and get elected in Mass. In the long run he may just be another Snowe in the Senate.
The best face that one can put on this election is that it will possibly derail the Obama administrations push towards socialed medicine. I sincerely hope the man moves more to the right of social/moral issues. Don’t expect him to though.
For those that are Palin supporters....should his election concern you...You Betcha! He is definitely a risk to her candidcy should he run.
The worst, most suicidal move for Republicans to make is to now insist on all Republican candidates, even in Blue States, to be absolutely pure religious right conservatives — because they will lose.
Go for the most conservative which can win, but realize that in some States and Congressional Districts, the most conservative who can win may be a RINO — which is better than a socialist Democrat like Coakley.
Mary Anne Kreitzer makes clear Why I would never support Scott Brown
http://lesfemmes-thetruth.blogspot.com/2010/01/why-i-would-never-support-scott-brown.html
Saturday, January 16, 2010
Suppose you were trying to decide whom to vote for in a Senatorial election. You had already ruled out one candidate, but were considering the other who was great on economic issues. Only one problem — he is a white supremacist who believes in segregation. Do you think you’d vote for him? Heck no! Everyone repudiates that position (which is the politically correct position to take).
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If I lived in Massachusetts I would not vote for Scott Brown. Why? Because he favors killing unborn children. You can read about his position here. All I had to see was that he thinks abortion should always be legally available and he went straight into the “disqualified” column. Some, who would object to my being a “purist,” (”Don’t let the perfect be the enemy of the good.”) are the same folks who would disqualify outright a white supremicist. Is being a bigot less serious than supporting the murder of the innocent? I don’t think so.
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Sorry Alan, You are an idealist, when we need a realist. This is a big win. Let’s wait and see what Brown does. We will hold him accountable.
I'm with saftler and vandk...Keyes' disaster run in illinois is partly responsible for "President Obama."
Keyes influence has waned over the last couple of years as reality has intruded upon fantasy for most conservatives. America demands to be ruled from the center-right. I have no problem with Alan speaking his mind, but the battles that matter will not be fought in his arena.
Go for the most conservative which can win, but realize that in some States and Congressional Districts, the most conservative who can win may be a RINO — which is better than a socialist Democrat like Coakley.
I agree. The country may be slightly right of center, but it is slightly.
And as always, three cheers for Keyes’ resounding electoral wins.
Oh...wait...
Brown ran with little help from the GOP. He got lots of local and nationwide support at a grassroots level. He even got people from Montreal to pitch in and help. I didn't see RINO's at the rallies. Brown got off his ass and spent time in the streets meeting voters. He got his hands dirty shaking hands with the ordinary rabble.
- Alan Keyes
Ya what a nut case. Everyone knows that the GOP has our best interests at heart.
I cannot wait for that race. I may even drive to Boston to work for Curt.
12 million babies were aborted during the 8 years under Ronald Reagan. Should we have let Carter stay on? Mondale? Are you freaking nuts?
Politics is not religion. Politics is the art of the possible. You can't have it all your way all the time. You can only resist the evil as best you can with the allies you can muster.
Suicide is a sin. Political suicide is insanity.
You realise that Eternal Vigilance is probably pulling all our names and putting us on a list of dirty, rotten, stinking RINOs who are part of Mitt Romney's secret master plan to implement the RINO agenda, right?
A real conservative like...Alan Keyes? Please.
The magnitude of this win in Mass. is enormous, and only a Scott Brown could have pulled it off. We may have stopped this horrible health care bill and no telling what future Obama policies.
We will cut off our nose to spite our face, sorry Alan, I am not listening.
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