Skip to comments.It's Reconciliation! (Pelosi to use "nuclear option"
Posted on 01/21/2010 12:42:19 PM PST by pabianice
A well-informed source tells The Mouth Nancy Pelosi is set to announce the House will go the reconciliation route on health care reform.
Of course, that means using a budgetary procedure that requires a simple majority to pass.
Its still unclear to us precisely what that means would be passed, but possibilities would be creating a national health care exchange and expanding Medicare or Medicaid coverage.
Democrats are caucusing now, so stay tuned.
Update: A second source confirms that Pelosi is presenting a reconciliation plan to the caucus, and making sure they go with something that can actually pass.
Separately, she is meeting with Harry Reid today.
Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/dc/2010/01/its-reconciliation.html#ixzz0dHWS30CN
Huh? Isn’t that at odds with her “health care is dead...” remarks?
But it won’t pass in the senate..
Interesting...do you all think this is purely Queen Nancy’s doing or is Barry Zero pushing this as well??
Time is running out for the target date SOTU bull shit speech.
Article was posted this morning. Sounds like Nancy proposed this and her own caucus told her to go take a hike.
This pig doesn’t listen. The people of America don’t want this POS bill.
Drop it Nancy. Your stupid bill is dead in the water.
go to the referenced site - the time posted in 0829 AM today - so I believe Pelosi’s “the bill is dead” remarks came after this was posted. But who knows what they will try...I’m sure they will not go quietly!
I bet this is old.
They have already told her this pig won’t fly.
The house does not have reconciliation. The Senate does. Pelosi is speaker of the house. Something is confusing here.
Something’s wrong with this story. The House does everything on simple majority. Isn’t it the Senate that has been pondering the reconciliation process, not the House?
Punishment for the for ‘plebs’ for taking Mass. They can’t stand it. They’re going to ‘get back’ at us....any way they can.
I am hearing that they will include the “public option” in the reconciliation bill. This could be Christmas in January for Republicans. Where’s the guy with the picture of the train crash at Montparnasse France in 1895?
Remember...whatever is passed via reconciliation, can be repealed via reconciliation.
Yes it will , this will only require a majority
Boil it down to its essence, the transfer of income to Democrat constituents.
Not at all. She said the Senate bill as it stands could not be passed in the House. This means they'll cull elements that both parties can agree on for passage. Others will be added to appropriations bills to make them easier to pass (only 51 votes needed). I've already written my rep (R), knowing this is how they'd proceed. Everything Pelosi and Obama have said since Tuesday (especially his SOTU address scheduled for 1/28) implies this.
Night of the Living Dead Health Care.
Braaaaains... and moneeeeeeey.
The Republicans had better be ready to slice that bill apart with points of order. There are very limited numbers of things that can be in a reconciliation bill, and if the Republicans fight it they should be to make sure that only a remnant of the original bill is up for the final vote.
I dont think it will work. Key provisions of this turkey cannot be passed via reconciliation.
Pelosi is in the House.
She cannot decide if the Senate is push it through using reconciliation.
Go the nuclear option route Pelousy and Dirty Reid. It will be fun watching the Mass slaughter in November to your party.
Is not reconciliation a procedure of the Senate that by passes the cloture vote?
Maybe they can give Li'l Barry a bullfrog and have him show-n-tell with that...?
That's alright, no problem-- I'm here to help...
Her Hubris will be her downfall.
See my post #16. They bury stuff like this in appropriations bills all the time. It doesn't mean 'reconciliation' per se to do that. Also, the Senate can take up what elements they want and run with them. Don't put it passed these people to do this piecemeal. That's been the plan since Tuesday. That's why Obama said he didn't want any vote on healthcare until Scott Brown was seated. That was misdirection.
One would think.
But what is dead is the current Senate and House versions of Obamacare. If they go the reconciliation route they have to draft a new bill meeting the requirements of that process. That bill has to be developed, I would assume, in conjunction with the Senate. The problem Pelosi and Reid have is SCOTT BROWN SYNDROME. It affects a large number of Dems in the House and the Senate who would just like to see this whole Obamacare business put behind them at least until they can, they hope, get re-elected.
So I'm not surprised that Pelosi and Reid are going through the "reconciliation motions" since their base would expect them to do so. But success is hardly assured.
Yes, this is already outdated information. The thread should probably just be deleted.
Here is what Rep Weiner (D) said about it.
So what will happen if they do succeed in stuffing this down our throats?
She is taking it personally now.. especially with today’s pic on Drudge mocking her.
Keep the self destruction going Nancy — Full speed ahead !
Because it gives an opportunity for the so call conservative dimrats to vote against it like they should of to begin with so Nancy can save her precious dimrat majority in the House?
I'm all for it! The Republican congress will be veto-proof and can repeal the whole damned thing before it even hits the ground.
Lord, how many months before we get rid of this woman?
If they radically cut back to, say, pass portability and ban pre-existing condition clauses, that could pass, but I think they're still in too much denial to go there.
Yes, I hope they go for it. Each day they waste on HCR versus a real job creation approach (lower taxes and regulation), the worse November will be for them. Just imagine the time used up to hammer out a plan that a majority in both houses can vote on. All the while, strong candidates from the GOP will be announcing for seats of incumbent Democrats. Money will be pouring into those campaigns and Democrats in the House and Senate will be going nuts. I say, “Bring It.”
Old news. Her caucus told her to go to Hell.
But O’Dumbo can always veto the repeal...
There is an element in the media and the rest of the left that think people are turning against them because the commies aren’t moving fast enough. Even though a majority of people don’t want mandatory health insurance, Democrats think voters are mad at them for not pushing it through. It’s stupid-left-think, part of liberal illness.
There is a confusion of terms. First, the Budget Reconciliation process is NOT the same as the "nuclear option" that is available in the Senate.
If Reid and Pelosi get together and want to ram through something using the Budget Reconciliation process, then substantial changes will need to be made to both the House and Senate bills, due to the limitations of Reconciliation as specified in the Congressional Budget Act of 1974.
If the Dems want to employ the "nuclear option", they would take the House bill to the Senate floor, and through parliamentary chicanery, they would ram through the bill by doing away with the filibuster, and passing it on a simple majority vote. I SERIOUSLY doubt that they could even get a simple majority to engage in such an undermining of the spirit of the Senate.
I also don't think that the Budget Reconciliation process is going to help them that much, again because of the limitation of the CBA of 1974 - but it is a possibility that they could get some things passed - like medicare expansion - using reconciliation.
Given the results of Tuesday's election, I doubt that Pelosi has 218 votes for such a maneuver, and I don't think Reid can scare up 50 votes in his chamber, FWIW.
Not soon enough
Hate to say it but it might just be the spark that starts the Revolution...if they ignore the will of the people, they will suffer the consequences...it will be on their heads...
I thought “reconciliation” was a procedure used in the Senate, not the House. Am I mistaken?
Nonsense. Whoever said this has no idea how reconciliation works. First of all it can only be used in the Senate (the House would be impossible) and since it pertains to Budget Bills only, EVERY SINGLE mention of non-budget policy would have to be eliminated with the rest being voted on and requiring 60 votes to pass. Care to guess how long that would take in a 2000+ page bill?