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US firm backs off on 'Bible' scopes
Space War ^ | 1/21/2010 | AFP via Space War

Posted on 01/21/2010 9:16:10 PM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld

US firm sought to quiet a controversy over coded Biblical references inscribed on gunsights used by US troops in Iraq and Afghanistan Thursday, announcing it was providing the military with kits to remove them. Muslim and religious freedom groups have reacted angrily after it emerged that Trijicon has contracts to supply over 800,000 of the gunsights to the US military.

Critics charged that the company was putting US troops in danger in Muslim-majority nations where the US military presence is already bitterly resented.

The Wixom, Michigan company said it has inscribed references to the New Testament on the metal casings of its gunsights for over two decades.

But it said it would supply the military with 100 kits "to enable the removal of the references that are already on products that are currently deployed."

Among the coded inscriptions were JN8:12, an apparent reference to John 8:12: "Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life."

The company currently has a multi-year, 660-million-dollar contract with the US Marine Corps and other contracts with the US Army to supply the scopes.

Just under 300,000 of the gunsights are currently fielded, 220,000 by the marines and between 70,000 and 75,000 by the army, a Pentagon official said, speaking on condition of anonymity.

Trijicon said it had taken the step "in response to concerns raised by the Department of Defense" and to "ensure the war-time production needs of the troops are met as quickly as possible."

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: bible; michigan; rifle; trijicon; usarmy

1 posted on 01/21/2010 9:16:11 PM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld
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To: sonofstrangelove

It is unbelievable to me how everyone seems to cave in to the Mooooslims.


2 posted on 01/21/2010 9:18:21 PM PST by ColdOne (:^))
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To: ColdOne

I agree. I saw nothing wrong with having these “codes” on them.


3 posted on 01/21/2010 9:19:11 PM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("I have learned to use the word "impossible" with the greatest caution."-Dr.Werner Von Braun)
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To: sonofstrangelove
This report is only MOSTLY true:

The DOD raised concerns after loud objections were raised by Michael Weinstein, president of the "Military Religious Freedom Foundation".

Of course, I do believe that the inscriptions might have been imprudent..

4 posted on 01/21/2010 9:20:22 PM PST by gaijin
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To: sonofstrangelove

For shame! To remove the inscriptions!


5 posted on 01/21/2010 9:21:23 PM PST by Judith Anne (Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death.)
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To: gaijin

My dad used to say they are no atheist in fox holes


6 posted on 01/21/2010 9:22:02 PM PST by al baby (Hi Mom sarc ;))
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To: sonofstrangelove

How about just put kill a commie for mommie on them


7 posted on 01/21/2010 9:23:01 PM PST by al baby (Hi Mom sarc ;))
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To: gaijin
MRFF: "Military Religious Freedom Foundation"

Be prepared to see aged scrolls of the constitution, and stuff...you half expect to see Thomas Jefferson stroll out, HAHAHAHAH..!!

8 posted on 01/21/2010 9:23:08 PM PST by gaijin
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To: sonofstrangelove
But I thought Muslims have the utmost respect for the Bible and the "People of the Book".

That's the great thing about Islam and it's teachings...they mean whatever works for the moment...just like Liberalism.

9 posted on 01/21/2010 9:23:37 PM PST by TheClintons-STILLAnti-American (ND LE)
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To: sonofstrangelove
Critics charged that the company was putting US troops in danger...

Somehow the inscription "JN8:12" is dangerous to troops, but this isn't:

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10 posted on 01/21/2010 9:23:58 PM PST by randog (Tap into America!)
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To: sonofstrangelove

Maybe we should stop sending US money to foreign countries, since it has “In God We Trust” written on it.


11 posted on 01/21/2010 9:24:28 PM PST by Question Liberal Authority (Why buy health insurance at all if you can't be turned down for any pre-existing conditions?)
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To: sonofstrangelove

As I said on another thread: I don’t know what’s worse; the godless Libtards who made a big deal over this, or the gutless Christians at Trijicon who gave up without a fight...

Cheers

Live Free or Die!


12 posted on 01/21/2010 9:24:40 PM PST by DoctorBulldog
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To: sonofstrangelove
I suppose they'll have to remove part of the inscription.


13 posted on 01/21/2010 9:28:48 PM PST by Sgt_Schultze (A half-truth is a complete lie)
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To: gaijin

Michael Weinstein is an anti military, leftist, shrew, that looks for any way that he can cause trouble for the military, he concentrates on anything related to God or religion.


14 posted on 01/21/2010 9:33:11 PM PST by ansel12 (anti SoCon. Earl Warren's court 1953-1969, libertarian hero, anti social conservative loser.)
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To: sonofstrangelove
One more thought... No way a someone was able to see these codes on the scopes from afar? This company had these codes on for twenty years right.. Now it changes when zer0 is CIC.. SURE...
15 posted on 01/21/2010 9:33:54 PM PST by ColdOne (:^))
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To: gaijin

Michael Weinstein is a USAF JAG puke who —get ready— did work for Ronaldus Maximus, then worked for Perot, and since 2006 has been waging jihad for Secular Fundamentalism against Evangelicals (full disclosure —I am not an evangelical).

I think it’s FINE he’s Jewish —I’m tickled he worked for Ronny, but...has he lost SITE of who is the real enemy here...?

JUST WOW.

HE is verrrry proud of this attack on Trijicon & Christianity, and at his website clips of news report of his attacks are front and center —he really believes this stuff.


16 posted on 01/21/2010 9:38:57 PM PST by gaijin
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To: sonofstrangelove

here is a little nostalgia art from WWII, when our country was a bit more sane..

http://alumnisandstorm.com/Mascot/BvB/1945-08-14VillagerFrontPg-2.jpg

http://www.historyimages.com/WWII/poster-danger.jpg


17 posted on 01/21/2010 9:39:44 PM PST by rfpzzzzz
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To: Question Liberal Authority
"Maybe we should stop sending US money to foreign countries, since it has “In God We Trust” written on it."

DING...DING...DING....we have a winner! (....but, please don't give the muzzies any ideas...they'll be requesting it be taken off of our bills.)

18 posted on 01/21/2010 9:45:50 PM PST by goodnesswins (Become a Precinct Committee Person/Officer....in the GOP...or do NOT complain.)
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To: sonofstrangelove
"Muslim and religious freedom groups have reacted angrily..."

That is Newspeak for "religious-intolerance" groups.

19 posted on 01/21/2010 9:47:36 PM PST by UnwashedPeasant (Don't nuke me, bro)
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To: sonofstrangelove

Fine. Just paint “Allahu Ahkbar” on the nose of a nuke and drop it on those ROPers.


20 posted on 01/21/2010 9:51:57 PM PST by 50cal Smokepole (Effective gun control involves effective recoil management)
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To: gaijin
Michael Weinstein, president of the "Military Religious Freedom I've gotten a personal beef with Christians but I'll call it something else Foundation".
21 posted on 01/21/2010 9:53:23 PM PST by wardaddy (Good Yankees in Massachusetts, I salute you all from bended knee in appreciation)
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To: sonofstrangelove
My son, a LCpl in the Corps, is a rifleman preparing to go to Afghanistan. He loves his Trijicon scope, but knew nothing about these Bible references.

At the In 'n' Out restaurants, they have Bible references on the bottom of their cups. I went there because they had great burgers, not because of the cups.

The cause of Christ and the gospel will not be frustrated if these references are omitted from scopes in the future.

22 posted on 01/21/2010 10:12:49 PM PST by Don'tMessWithTexas
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To: sonofstrangelove

Muslims (supposedly) revere Jesus as a great prophet. They aren’t going to object. Its marxists who get heartburn at any kind of biblical reference. And anything military.


23 posted on 01/21/2010 11:03:19 PM PST by marron
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To: sonofstrangelove
Critics charged that the company was putting US troops in danger in Muslim-majority nations where the US military presence is already bitterly resented.

It's also appalling that these would be provided to our troops as standard issue equipment. Not all of our troops are Christian, and Jews are as likely as Muslims to have a religious objection to being expected to use weapons bearing New Testament inscriptions. It was absolutely idiotic for the manufacturer to be doing this, and any millitary official who knew about it and didn't put an immediate stop to it, should be facing disciplinary action.

24 posted on 01/21/2010 11:17:28 PM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: gaijin
The DOD raised concerns after loud objections were raised by Michael Weinstein, president of the "Military Religious Freedom Foundation".

I'm on it. He will be exposed.

25 posted on 01/21/2010 11:18:19 PM PST by montag813
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To: Question Liberal Authority

“God” is pretty generic, and even sane atheists don’t object to it, since it can be construed as just a symbolic name for whatever great unknown force accounts for the existence of the universe.


26 posted on 01/21/2010 11:21:06 PM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: sonofstrangelove

And just how many moslems would know what those letters ment? How many would have abible handy and how many could read the letters in their proper order?

Much ado about nothing, but the DUrs are going balistic over them and Al Jezera has reported about it.


27 posted on 01/21/2010 11:27:07 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Are my guns loaded? Break in and find out.)
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To: sonofstrangelove

Does anyone think that if we chisel the reference off of the scope, the muslims will forget that we aren’t muslim?


28 posted on 01/21/2010 11:29:35 PM PST by marron
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To: sonofstrangelove
Critics charged that the company was putting US troops in danger.....

Yeah, because until this story came out, everything was peachy.......

29 posted on 01/21/2010 11:51:19 PM PST by edpc (Those Lefties just ain't right)
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To: Don'tMessWithTexas

I’ve been curious about this, since all the “codes” I’ve seen reference “light”: are these night sights?


30 posted on 01/22/2010 12:22:08 AM PST by ApplegateRanch (I think not, therefore I don't exist!)
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To: ApplegateRanch

Yes, light in the darkness.

Its very apt. Its a fake controversy.


31 posted on 01/22/2010 12:27:39 AM PST by marron
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To: marron

Thanks.


32 posted on 01/22/2010 12:46:50 AM PST by ApplegateRanch (I think not, therefore I don't exist!)
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To: sonofstrangelove
What would Uncle ted Say about this
33 posted on 01/22/2010 2:30:12 AM PST by weldAllday (Elections have Consequences)
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