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Democrats join in Murkowski's push against climate change rules
Houston Chronicle ^ | Jan 21, 2010 | Tom Fowler

Posted on 01/22/2010 5:12:14 AM PST by thackney

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Sens. Ben Nelson, D-Neb., Blanche Lincoln, D-Ark., and Mary Landrieu, D-La., on Thursday signed on as co-sponsors to a new resolution offered by Murkowski that would effectively veto the Environmental Protection Agency's formal declaration last year that carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases endanger the public health and welfare.

With that formal endangerment declaration, the agency is prepared to move forward with new limits on emissions from vehicles in March. EPA lawyers and environmental law experts say the tailpipe limits would automatically lead to requirements that new or modified power plants, refiners and other industrial facilities emitting carbon dioxide employ the best available technology to control how much they release.

Murkowski's measure would take advantage of a rarely used federal statute, known as the Congressional Review Act, designed to empower Congress to speedily veto federal regulations.

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(Excerpt) Read more at blogs.chron.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Alaska; US: Arkansas; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: co2; energy; envirofascism; enviromarxism; epa; epabrownshirts; epagestapo; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax

1 posted on 01/22/2010 5:12:14 AM PST by thackney
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To: thackney

Is the Revolution moving forward or what?

Woohoo!


2 posted on 01/22/2010 5:13:34 AM PST by Freedom'sWorthIt (Ronald Reagan: If we ever forget that we're one nation under God,then we'll be a nation gone under.")
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To: thackney

” Sens. Ben Nelson, D-Neb., Blanche Lincoln, D-Ark., and Mary Landrieu, D-La., “

Hmmmm... The ‘Votes-for-Sale’ crowd senses profit here....


3 posted on 01/22/2010 5:15:46 AM PST by Uncle Ike (Rope is cheap, and there are lots of trees...)
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To: thackney

What a coincidence: all three democrats mentioned are up for re-election come November.


4 posted on 01/22/2010 5:17:08 AM PST by Witch-king of Angmar
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To: thackney

What?

Dems on the ‘right’ side of an issue?

How is this going to impact Kerry-Graham?

[Wow, did the alternate universe open up Tuesday night?]


5 posted on 01/22/2010 5:18:08 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: Uncle Ike

I suppose we could call them Ferengi-senators. :-)


6 posted on 01/22/2010 5:18:09 AM PST by Witch-king of Angmar
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To: thackney
Barbara Boxer, D-Calif., who supports carbon-cutting mandates, said today that "it could take us a long time" to get a bill enacted. She said that the EPA-imposed regulations are necessary in the meantime.

When libs say "carbon", are they really talking about carbon dioxide? (there's really a big difference).

7 posted on 01/22/2010 5:19:39 AM PST by Need4Truth (All the king's horses and all the king's men could not reprogram the Branch Carbonians.)
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To: thackney
Governors, where art thou?

Stand up to the feds NOW...you may never get this opportunity again....

8 posted on 01/22/2010 5:20:54 AM PST by cbkaty (I may not always post...but I am always here......)
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To: Uncle Ike

“Hmmmm... The ‘Votes-for-Sale’ crowd senses profit here....”

More like they are toast come the next election and they are trying to redeem themselves in the eyes of their constituents.


9 posted on 01/22/2010 5:22:33 AM PST by Constitutional Patriot (Socialism is the cancer of humanity.)
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To: thackney

all the usual phony blue dog suspects....

We won’t be fooled again.


10 posted on 01/22/2010 5:22:34 AM PST by Daisyjane69 (Michael Reagan: "Welcome back, Dad, even if you're wearing a dress and bearing children this time)
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To: Witch-king of Angmar

Actually Nelson is not up until 2012. The common thread is that all 3 are on the endangered species list.


11 posted on 01/22/2010 5:23:17 AM PST by almcbean
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To: Need4Truth
-- When libs say "carbon", are they really talking about carbon dioxide? --

Yes. Any activity that moves carbon from a solid "bound up" location (e.g., in plants and minerals) to a gaseous form (ESPECIALLY CO2) is the "carbon" they are talking about.

A lump of coal is okay, but burning it is not okay.

12 posted on 01/22/2010 5:24:27 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: thackney; Grampa Dave; SierraWasp; Ernest_at_the_Beach

Big three running for cover-—hope the sheeple see thru this. That aside, Murkowski’s legislation is a good start.


13 posted on 01/22/2010 5:25:32 AM PST by BOBTHENAILER ( EPA will rule your life)
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To: thackney
Let's take what we can get one piece at a time, however, they will toss crumbs as there is still new jobs waiting w/ offshore drilling bans and federal drilling bans in effect.

Zewoe's Czars & Co. have attacked coal and its possible expansion in use.

Cheaper energy = cheape manufacturing costs & reduced COL.....that's not happening at this time and that is a key to starting economic recovery...Oh, did I also mention reducing the size of goobermint, reduced corporate taxes, and holding individual taxes steady?

14 posted on 01/22/2010 5:33:51 AM PST by RSmithOpt (Liberalism: Highway to Hell)
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To: RSmithOpt

federal drilling = federal land exploratory drilling bans.


15 posted on 01/22/2010 5:36:33 AM PST by RSmithOpt (Liberalism: Highway to Hell)
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To: BOBTHENAILER

Nelson and the Lousianna Purchase might not survive the backlash if they push the climate change bs.

They and their states are in enough trouble with their back door illegal bs re the $ociali$t health care takeover.


16 posted on 01/22/2010 5:37:02 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Does 0b0z0 have any friends, who aren't traitors, spies, tax cheats and criminals?)
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To: Need4Truth

Boxer is so dumb she doesn’t know the difference between hot and cold and carbon dioxide and oxygen.


17 posted on 01/22/2010 5:38:32 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Does 0b0z0 have any friends, who aren't traitors, spies, tax cheats and criminals?)
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To: thackney

The EPA is more fascistic than the ATF. The extra constitutional powers it has been granted by all three branches of government make it one of the greatest threats to our freedom.

There are no property rights that the EPA recognizes, and the rule of law is completely out the window with EPA rulings.


18 posted on 01/22/2010 6:09:05 AM PST by marktwain
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To: almcbean
" The common thread is that all 3 are on the endangered species list. "

For a politician in Washington who is in political trouble in a election year, it's called self preservation and don't tick off the voters until they are sown in .... after that, they don't care what the people think until election time comes up again....
People ? don't get fooled again...
19 posted on 01/22/2010 6:15:30 AM PST by American Constitutionalist (There is no civility in the way the Communist/Marxist want to destroy the USA)
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To: American Constitutionalist
People ? don't get fooled again...

These hacks can just tell which way the wind blows. Can't be trusted, we should post their records as much as possible.

20 posted on 01/22/2010 6:24:12 AM PST by NativeSon
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To: thackney

Well, well, well.

I’m sure this will erase the stain left over from the health care fiasco.

Not.


21 posted on 01/22/2010 6:33:20 AM PST by FatherFig1o155 (It's time to expose politicians for what they are. My soapbox is here: njconservative.wordpress.com/)
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To: thackney

They know Cap & Trade is dead in the water.

What they fear is Obama passing this by fiat by using those EPA rules.

They know Obozo is radioactive.


22 posted on 01/22/2010 6:37:01 AM PST by dforest (Who is the real Jim Thompson? I am.)
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To: Cboldt

Not only is “solid carbon good - CO2 bad”, but carbon soot might be good, since it blocks the suns rays (nuclear winter, anyone?). We are living in a Bizarro world.


23 posted on 01/22/2010 6:37:19 AM PST by Tandem (Support our troops - Nephew in the Army)
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To: Uncle Ike

“The ‘Votes-for-Sale’ crowd senses profit here...”

The Mustang Ranch crowd is a better term for them.


24 posted on 01/22/2010 6:38:34 AM PST by HereInTheHeartland (The End of an Error - 01/20/2013)
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To: indylindy
They know Obozo is radioactive.

Backing 0bama has now become like trying to pick up a turd by the clean end.

25 posted on 01/22/2010 6:40:52 AM PST by N. Theknow (Kennedys: Can't fly, can't ski, can't drive, can't skipper a boat, but they know what's best.)
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To: thackney

The pendulum has begun to swing back........


26 posted on 01/22/2010 6:47:56 AM PST by roaddog727 (It's the Constitution, Stupid!)
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To: thackney
Sens. Ben Nelson, D-Neb., Blanche Lincoln, D-Ark., and Mary Landrieu, D-La.,

ROTFLMAO

27 posted on 01/22/2010 6:53:57 AM PST by Tribune7 (Toll booths are devices funded by taxpayers to snarl traffic, waste gas and produce smog)
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To: Grampa Dave

I saw a thing on the news awhile back that reported Nelson getting booed out of a pizza joint in Nebraska. Maybe the people will wake up and throw them out like happened to Chokely.


28 posted on 01/22/2010 6:55:51 AM PST by BOBTHENAILER ( EPA will rule your life)
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To: thackney

Must be hell to be in a political party run by wackos from districts probably safer than Ted Kennedy’s “seat”, and with a compliant media never lifting a finger to help reign in the Pelousies and Franks, too bad for them.


29 posted on 01/22/2010 6:58:23 AM PST by junta (S.C.U.M. = State Controlled Unreliable Media)
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To: Cboldt

yup, lumps of coals would be great for BBQ, but then i’d just be polluting on my food


30 posted on 01/22/2010 7:08:45 AM PST by Dominic01 ("...You know the one with the big ears? He ain't my President" - Etta James)
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To: BOBTHENAILER

I think that we have to boycott the hell out of these smaller states when their $inators or Representatives do what Nelson did.

A national boycott of Gay Frisco this spring/summer/fall might force them to get rid of Pelosi. Gay Frisco is having a really bad financial two years during the meltdown. Less tourists and conventions might kneecap Gay Frisco into doing something about Pelosi.


31 posted on 01/22/2010 7:33:33 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Does 0b0z0 have any friends, who aren't traitors, spies, tax cheats and criminals?)
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To: Witch-king of Angmar

Get ur facts straight. Landrieu is not up for reelection in November (David Vitter (R) is).


32 posted on 01/22/2010 8:18:28 AM PST by Pikachu_Dad
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To: thackney
Sens. Ben Nelson, D-Neb., Blanche Lincoln, D-Ark., and Mary Landrieu, D-La.,

Trying to save themselves. They know Americans are against cr*p-and-tax in any form, including EPA regulations.

33 posted on 01/22/2010 8:24:59 AM PST by hsalaw
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To: thackney

It’s amazing what one Senate election can do.

Thank YOU Massachusetts!


34 posted on 01/22/2010 8:54:14 AM PST by Grunthor (McCain; for when you really need to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory!)
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To: thackney

here are the facts that REFUTE the latest scare-monguering by environuts:

The ‘danger levels’ of CO2 are over 5000 parts per million (and even this level is in dispute)

Man contributes 11.9 parts per million CO2- Nature provides 338 million parts per million- the total is a scant 349 parts per million- which is 4500 poarts per million BELOW toxic levels of CO2 in the atmosphere

Man would have to multiply EVERY single fossil fuel burning business home and transportation vehicle 33 times in order to even begin reaching ‘toxic levels’ of CO2 (and again even the 5000 ppm figure for ‘toxic levels’ is in dispute- some thinking it’s much higher that 5000 ppm)-

Let’s say that there is a total of 10,000,000,000 (billion) fossil fuel burning structures, homes, cars etc (and htis is a VERY lowball figure) that creates 11.9 ppm CO2 levels contributed by man- this owuld mean we would have to instantly create 330,000,000,000 billion such structures just to begin reaching the 5000 ppm- there is no way we can even begin doing so- not in a 1000 years- that’s a staggaring number of fossil fuel burnign structures that we will NEVER EVER reach

The claim that CO2 levels have reached ‘dangerous levels that cause health concerns which ‘needs to be regulated’’ is a bogus bald-faced lie


35 posted on 01/22/2010 9:02:54 AM PST by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: TomGuy

[[Dems on the ‘right’ side of an issue?]]

Nope- ‘Dems afraid of losing hteir positions, so they’ll say anyhtign they want that they think will get them reelected because they know the people who vote for them are too thick in the head to udnerstand they are being LIED to’


36 posted on 01/22/2010 9:04:19 AM PST by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: thackney

http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/12532

try this on ... wow


37 posted on 01/22/2010 9:54:46 AM PST by gibtx2 (keep up the good work I am out of work but post 20 a month to this out of WF Check)
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To: Cboldt
A lump of coal is okay...

Until somebody digs it up, that is.

38 posted on 01/22/2010 10:18:18 AM PST by thulldud (It HAS happened here!)
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To: Uncle Ike

LOL Looks like they are desparetly trying to save their jobs right now!


39 posted on 01/22/2010 11:09:03 AM PST by chris_bdba
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To: thackney

But that still isn’t enough to stop the EPA. Is it?


40 posted on 01/22/2010 11:11:32 AM PST by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: thackney; Desdemona; Little Bill; IrishCatholic; mmanager; enough_idiocy; FreedomPoster; ...
Do my eyes deceive me?

 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

41 posted on 01/22/2010 1:42:43 PM PST by steelyourfaith (Freedom from fat cat greedy Big Government tyranny IS a Right ... It IS the Constitution.)
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