Skip to comments.(NASA Creates) A U.S. Climategate?
Posted on 01/22/2010 7:01:59 PM PST by raptor22
Hoaxes: Climate researchers and the Weather Channel's founder accuse NASA of the same data manipulation as Britain's Climate Research Unit. Were weather stations cherry-picked to hide the temperature drop?
We recently commented on how our space agency for two years refused Freedom of Information requests on why it has had to repeatedly correct its climate figures.
In a report on global warming on KUSI television by Weather Channel founder and iconic TV weatherman John Coleman, that reticence has been traced to the deliberate manipulation and distortion of climate data by NASA.
As Coleman noted in a KUSI press release, NASA's two primary climate centers, the National Climatic Data Center (NCDC) in Asheville, N.C., and the Goddard Institute for Space Studies at Columbia University in New York City, are accused of "creating a strong bias toward warmer temperatures through a system that dramatically trimmed the number and cherry-picked the locations of weather observation stations they use to produce the data set on which temperature record reports are based."
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And who’s at NASA? James Hansen. Who did Hansen associate with to advance the Global Warming cause? Enron. And what did Enron propose?
Oh yeah, cap n trade.
They ought to be prosecuted for falsifying government documents.
Now you have done it! Introduced logic into the equation sham on you. ;-)
Climategate: CRU was just the tip of the iceberg
So does this mean that Weather Channel had repudiated Heidi Cullen, and I can end my boycott?
Ping of interest. NASA’s temperature data is now considered fraudulent.
I don’t know what brings so many things to light in the past week. As you know, I rarely send a ping.
Thanka for posting.
Investigate. Incarcerate. The damage they have caused is incalculable.
"creating a strong bias toward warmer temperatures through a system that dramatically trimmed the number and cherry-picked the locations of weather observation stations they use to produce the data set on which temperature record reports are based."Thanks raptor22.
Hopefully, Law Enforcement Agencies might get interested in following the cash flows into Mr. Hansen’s accounts. Betting, Hansen didn’t push Global Warming because he just cared about saving the Planet! just like Gore turning himself into a Billionaire over Global Warming!
Someone should email this to all the news outlets; it's well documented.
Not only the data of NASA/GISS but also that of NOAA who get to fudge it first, before passing it to GISS for their turn at fudging.
FWIW—The NCDC (National Climatic Data Center) is not a part of NASA, but is a part of the National Oceanic & Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) which is part of the Dept of Commerce.
When Sarah or Scott or whoever gets in office in 2013, don't wait for Hansen's resignation. Fire him.
I didn't know the little totalitarian had left, hopefully against her wishes, the Weather Channel. Now I can view there on occasion.
I want Nasa closed down. Completely removed. They are complicit prostitutes of fact and welfare babies going nowhere. SHUT IT DOWN!!!
Yeah, by skeptics. This is news? Tell me again, why is the stratosphere cooling off? (There are two reasons.) Why is the lower troposphere warming up at basically the same rate as the surface temperature record? What... D'Aleo, Coleman, and Chiefio didn't mention these things? I wonder why not.
I dont know what brings so many things to light in the past week.
Tell me this: are the phenological indicators of spring in the Northern Hemisphere happening earlier in the calendar year (viewed statistically, of course) or not?
Likewise, are the phenological indicators of winter also occurring later in the calendar year (viewed statistically, of course), or not?
Take your time answering this question. Look up references, discussions, blog postings, whatever. Tell me what you determine.
Then tell me what it means.
The one thing we do know now is that ape metrics are literally worthless.
“Hopefully, Law Enforcement Agencies might get interested in following the cash flows into Mr. Hansens accounts. “
The entire federal bureaucracy is infested with left wing liars, thieves and ideologues like Hanson. Federal prosecutions will never happen. States need to move against these fascists, charge them and throw them in prison. It’s way past time for states to begin throwing these federal pigs out of their borders.
“Heidi Cullen, the climate slut, is no longer with the Weather Channel. Hasn’t been for sometime. They still have some bias, but it is no longer an epidemic contagious social disease.”
Yes, she has moved on to spread her malice elsewhere, but she used the Weather Channel as a pulpit to confuse many decent Americans on the climate issue. Did she leave on her own, or did WC fire her and apologize for the damage she did? Do they stand by her, or have they repudiated her? If they have formally repudiated her BS, then I can end my boycott and recommence watching the Weather Channel.
Which side of the issue had the herd running mindlessly?
The Climate alarmists are coming out earlier and earlier each year with their predictions of record hurricanes and that we are in the warmest year in history.
But we shall see what is happening because 2010 is shaping up to be a big El Nino year and has been predicted by British Scientists to be the hottest year in history.
But all this horse manure aside warming (or cooling) temperatures doesn't mean that change is bad or that mankind is responsible.
It’s not that simple.
Whats the percentage of manmade CO2 placed into the atmosphere per year?
It is easy for them to predict what will happen with metrics in the future. They know the metrics are being cooked. So if you know the motives of those cooking the metrics, you know what will happen to them in the future. Would like to see them predict something that actually happens in the real physical world. Not something that only happens within the small crooked minds of men.
BTW - It is not a big El Nino. Only was strong for a couple of weeks. Mostly moderate and fading. Judging by the snow we just had in Southern California (3 inches in Beaumont and Yucaipa), these storms are not El Nino storms. They are coming from higher north and they are dragging some of the El Nino moisture with them.
``Based on what I saw in 1977 and 1989, there is a good chance we'll have a second wave,'' said William Loftus, a longtime aquatic ecologist for Everglades National Park.
So the last two times Florida had major fish kills were in 1977 and 1989. Guess what part of the solar cycle those kills occurred within ? Right at the end of the solar minimum.
So the Fish in Florida are better metrics then ape graphs built with crooked data. Been here and done this before. Nature is the most accurate tool out there and apes continue to ignore it at our peril.
"STRONG EL NINO CONDITIONS CURRENTLY EXIST IN THE TROPICAL PACIFIC. THIS WARM EVENT IS EXPECTED TO PERSIST (THOUGH GRADUALLY WEAKEN) INTO AT LEAST EARLY BOREAL SPRING 2010, AND IS ANTICIPATED TO HAVE A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON THE US SURFACE TEMPERATURE AND PRECIPITATION FORECASTS INTO THE APR-MAY-JUN (AMJ) 2010 SEASON. THE IMPACT OF EL NINO ON THE CLIMATE OVER NORTH AMERICA IS USUALLY GREATEST DURING THE LATE WINTER SEASON. MANY PREDICTION TOOLS INDICATE THAT THE EL NINO IS CURRENTLY NEAR ITS MAXIMUM STRENGTH AND WILL DIMINISH SLIGHTLY IN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS. THOUGH SOME MODELS PREDICT THAT THIS WARM EPISODE MAY EXTEND INTO SUMMER, IMPACTS ON THE US TEMPERATURE AND PRECIPITATION FOR LATE SPRING AND BEYOND, HOWEVER, ARE EXPECTED TO BE NEGLIGIBLE."
Here in Rancho Cucamonga (So Cal) it must have rained 10" started out warm but got cold later. And, yes the warmists will blow this all out of proportion .
Well I have seen worse El Nino maps and that South Pacific temperature anomaly is weird.
I live near Chaffey College at about 1,700' elevation and we didn't get any snow as far as I could tell. The first storms 1/18-1/20 were pretty warm but the storms of 1/21 and 1/22 were a lot colder. I did get some good pictures today of the low snow level which looks to be about 2,500' or so.
I don't understand why the official reports seem to be overstating the weakening El Nino.
It's probably going to be a moderate El Nino year; the current El Nino is probably slightly past peak now and will fade through spring. Whether or not that can push 2010 past 1998 will largely depend on what state the Pacific ends up later in the year -- "normal" vs. an incipient La Nina.
However, the 12-month running average could be interesting with January through March included. Tamino ("Open Mind") has a recent post on this.
Do not know where that strong warming came from in the South Central Pacific, but basically what happened last winter down there is that the oceans cooled dramatically by the end of the winter. After two big cold spots developed, in the east and west, the hot spot later formed right between them. The cold spots however have remained during the summer time down there and the sun only moderated them slightly. We will now see ocean temps in the upper areas of the Northern Hemisphere cool dramatically, if they follow what happened in the South. Just look at what happened in Scandinavian waters. The US and UK are almost completely surrounded by colder then normal water now. That is ahead of schedule. Was expecting that by the end of winter. So the cooling is accelerating. February will kick everyones but north of the equator.
BTW - All NOAA data is suspect now and they never will gain back trust from me. That is lost forever. But hey, I am just a hairy ape.
Looks like it is close to the margin of error.
For what it’s worth: the storms of 1/21-1/22 deposited snow on Mount Diablo (east SF Bay Area, Contra Costa County), elevation 3,849. Saw the snow this afternoon from Walnut Creek.
Here in Sweden, they’re reporting that NASA says this has been the warmest decade ever, but that 2009 was also the coldest year ever. (”Climate change” replacing “global warming.”) They’re reporting it without qualification, and without reference to the well-known data manipulations.
They’re still stuck in last year, blowing off completely verified proof of fraud as just some side-issue stuff that seems to excite “skeptics.” It’s still “move along folks, nothing to see here.”
When they refer to NASA in support of the global warming scam, they’re primarily just talking about propaganda from Al Gore’s business partner and radical extremist eco-Nazi, James Hansen at Columbia University.
It’s the so-called “Goddard Institute for Space Studies” at Columbia - James Hansen.
I’ve been looking for info re: when this “institute” was set up, and when James Hansen became its head. Wild guess - likely sometime when Clinton was in office and Al Gore was VP. That’s when it’s reported that Gore got together with Enron and hatched the scheme.
The “institute” faced problems when Bush was elected, but one of the leftest Mafia DC law firms sued for “whistle blower” status, claiming that Bush admin’s questioning of Hansen was an effort to cover-up “the truth” about global warming.
Volunteers, state biologists and conservation groups across Florida mounted an unprecedented rescue effort to save most of the 5,000 endangered sea turtles found near death during this month's cold snap. Despite their successes, roughly 1,000 died, representing the biggest setback recorded for the endangered animals.
"It will still be larger -- more mortalities -- than any other single event we've documented," said Allen Foley, a state biologist with expertise in sea turtle strandings.
The only other time that I have seen damage this widespread was after the 89 freeze, he said. There are places in Florida that were hit as badly as 1989.
Floridas Gov. Charlie Crist has asked for an emergency declaration for all counties in the state because the damage is so extensive to agriculture.
It gives you a sense of the magnitude of the loss, Putnam said.
Thanks for your insight. “Global Warming” (morphed into “climate change”because the globe is cooling) was a bold attempt at redistribution of wealth and an attack on the capitalist system. It was an intentional lie to control industry and lives. It died in Copenhagen where the lying emails exposed the fraud and of course there was that pesky of contra data that went the wrong way. The main thing is to put it in “joke phase” where it belongs and wipe it out as a fraud.
I agree with you there but I trust their lower 48 numbers more than I trust any global numbers.
I’ll tell you where that “sigh” belongs professor, but I’m a gentleman. AGW is a hypothesis nothing more, to impoverish me and my family, to transfer wealth to the Carbon Oligarchs (Enron/Soros/Gore) is a crime. If you insist on this course of action than I must consider you a conspirator to a crime.
Should probably clarify this for the thread. From what I saw looking at sunspots and comparing them to weather trends a few years ago, the earth in general is colder starting from the peak of the solar minimum to the peak of the solar maximum (upslope). It is warmer in general starting from the peak of the solar maximum to the peak of the solar minimum (downslope). The delay factor is one of the main causes. We can see a similar effect during summer and winter as the latter months of the changed seasonal sunlight exposure extreme generally have the greatest temperature extreme. However, this physical phenomenon is more intense with respect to the suns sunspot cycle because the early part of the solar active period has its sunspots located higher in latitude on the suns surface. So less activity enters the planetary rotational plane. That angle of exposure physics is related to the physics that affects our seasonal temperature differences. The fish kill and Florida freeze that occurred in 1989 happened during the end of the colder period near the peak of the solar maximum (upslope). The fish kill event in 1977 happened during the start of the upslope period. This appears to fit well for the last two solar cycles if your ignore metrics that have become politicized, such as Average Temperatures and El Ninos. Granted, long term planetary oceanic cycles and atmospheric pressure cycles can also affect temperatures, so in general the theory above applies to solar flux forcing. And if that theory is correct, we have 2 more years of cooling events to endure, assuming of course that the sun enters moderate to strong solar activity at its peak in Solar Cycle 24.
How does it go? A riddle wrapped in an enigma? The primary aim of their “redistribution of wealth” is to put as much money as possible in their own pockets. This is where the Big Mafia organized crime went. People do have a tendency to philosophize political about the whole thing, but it’s just ole fashioned political corruption designed to steel as much as possible.
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