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Can We Please Stop Labeling Liberals “Elite?” (Republicans outscore Democrats)
Center for Individual Freedome ^ | 1/17/2010 | Timothy H. Lee

Posted on 01/23/2010 3:36:24 PM PST by GVnana

In a survey released October 14, 2009 – just three months ago – the liberal-leaning Pew Research Center ran a “News IQ Quiz.”

It probably didn’t surprise the Pew staff to learn that a “partisan knowledge gap” existed between Democrats and Republicans.

But it surely horrified them to realize that the gap favored… Republicans.

On fully ten of twelve “News IQ Quiz” questions asked, Republicans demonstrated deeper basic knowledge than Democrats, with respondents tied on one question and Democrats leading on only one of the twelve.

In other words, the hard survey data confirms what anyone familiar with socio-economic issues already suspected: if anyone earns the label “elite,” it is actually more conservative Americans.

(Excerpt) Read more at cfif.org ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: childish; communist; creeps; dangerous; hateful; illmanored; liberals; nasty; pottymouthed; satanic
Scores here: http://people-press.org/reports/pdf/554.pdf
1 posted on 01/23/2010 3:36:24 PM PST by GVnana
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To: GVnana

How about “pathetic?”


2 posted on 01/23/2010 3:37:59 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: GVnana
well lets see...

democrats are the the poor, homeless, welfare recipients, and public housing residents...

republicans are the rich, business owners, and the upwardly mobile...

hm.... I wonder who is smarter.... ?

duh! of COURSE republicans are smarter, the rich are ALWAYS smarter, that's why they are RICH!

3 posted on 01/23/2010 3:41:10 PM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied, the economy died)
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To: GVnana

Elitism is a view that some people —because of their blood, wealth, status, skills, or expertise—are above of everybody else. Liberals tend to hold this view. The Pew results point out to something else, that is, Republicans are more informed and attuned to current affairs.


4 posted on 01/23/2010 3:42:01 PM PST by paudio (Road to hell is paved by unintended consequences of good intentions)
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To: GVnana

Isn’t that what they call themselves?

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5 posted on 01/23/2010 3:45:46 PM PST by fanfan (Why did they bury Barry's past?)
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To: Brilliant

or, hateful


6 posted on 01/23/2010 3:45:57 PM PST by FreeAtlanta (I support Checkbook Conservatives!)
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To: GVnana

How about effete elite delusional commies?


7 posted on 01/23/2010 3:46:28 PM PST by EverOnward
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To: GVnana

How could anyone who pays attention (and isn’t on the payroll) be a Democrat?


8 posted on 01/23/2010 3:47:55 PM PST by rfpzzzzz
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To: GVnana

Not to belittle the author, but to most conservatives, the term elite (insert photo of Dr. Evil making quotation gesture) is attached as a derogatory adjective.


9 posted on 01/23/2010 3:48:47 PM PST by bitterohiogunclinger (America held hostage - day 393)
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To: GVnana

It has nothing to do with IQ scores or knowledge. It is about arrogance, a superiority aire, and money. Thinking they are better than the people, know better than the people, care more than the people etc etc etc.


10 posted on 01/23/2010 3:51:16 PM PST by gidget7 (Duncan Hunter-Valley Forge Republican!)
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To: GVnana

Of the top 50 richest members of congress, 28 are Democrats and 22 are Republicans.

Of the top 10 richest, only 2 are Republicans.


11 posted on 01/23/2010 3:52:57 PM PST by smokingfrog (You can't ignore your boss and expect to keep your job... www.filipthishouse2010.com)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Actually, the rich are almost always smarter than about 4/5 of people and less smart than about 1/5, because the top fraction of the population tends to find the activities involved in commerce and finance mind-numbingly dull, and go into academic pursuits or technical areas that while lucrative will not make one rich.

Most of us who have chosen the academic route in life, are alas, while very smart tend to not be very wise and assume that what is good for an academician whose love of particle physics, botany, Medieval history, Georgian architecture, . . . or in my case mathematics is such that so long as they are provided with a reasonably comfortable living they will pursue their love without regard for further compensation is good for everyone. Thus academicians tend to foolishly assume that having some fiduciary look after ones material needs on one’s behalf would be a good thing for everyone and end up being socialists and looking down on people who pursue commerce. This view is of course just as deadly to the prosperity of the nation and the world as running a university as if it were a commercial enterprise is to the pursuit of knowledge.


12 posted on 01/23/2010 4:07:28 PM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: GVnana

We don’t actually have very many true liberals these days. Thomas Jefferson was a liberal; so was Abraham Lincoln. What we have today though are Socialists. They like calling themselves Progressives, but they’re just Marxists and Communists hiding behind a a PC identity, because it makes them “feel” better about themselves. As for elite, elite is a term reserved for the best of the best, and today’s liberals are anything but elite.


13 posted on 01/23/2010 4:08:51 PM PST by BuffaloJack (Hoax and Chains is not the same as hope and change.)
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To: gidget7

I have a theory about liberals.

They have a philosophical attitude, “People shouldn’t be allowed to do that”. If you talk to a lib, the odds are, in one way or another, you’ll hear it.

To me it smacks of elitism, that I know better than other people.


14 posted on 01/23/2010 4:09:33 PM PST by I still care (A Republic - if you can keep it. - Ben Franklin)
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To: paudio

Your analysis seems about right to me, yet I think that it would be nice to have a different word to express that Liberal attitude other than elite, or elitism. It shouldn’t be too hard to make that change, because it isn’t the liberals who are calling themselves that.


15 posted on 01/23/2010 4:19:12 PM PST by truthfreedom
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To: paudio

Exactly. Since when did being informed equate to being an “elite”??


16 posted on 01/23/2010 4:20:46 PM PST by Tatze (I reject your reality and substitute my own!)
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To: Brilliant; GVnana
After much consideration, I have come up with the proper term for liberals:

assholes

poseurs

human hemmorhoids

traitorous vermin

self-annointed

superciliously fatuous


SNEETCHES.

They just *ARE* superior. It's self-evident: so much so that if you ask them for proof, the question itself designates you as unworthy of an answer.

After all, they have stars upon thars.

Cheers!

17 posted on 01/23/2010 4:22:23 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: GVnana

With a few exceptions it isn’t just the democrats I think of as elite. It’s most of the people in Washington.


18 posted on 01/23/2010 4:23:26 PM PST by whershey
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To: The_Reader_David
(Sound of grey_whiskers purring.)

That was Mark Steyn-caliber commentary.

Cheers!

19 posted on 01/23/2010 4:24:03 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: GVnana

I think calling them the “self-described elite” is perfect.

They WANT to be elite and they WANT to mock the rest. While patronizing the ones they feel are MOST pathetic.


20 posted on 01/23/2010 4:28:41 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: GVnana
On fully ten of twelve “News IQ Quiz” questions asked, Republicans demonstrated deeper basic knowledge than Democrats...

So to call them DUmmies is an accurate depiction.

21 posted on 01/23/2010 4:39:28 PM PST by McGruff (Love ya Sarah but I will support and contribute to JD Hayworth.)
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To: grey_whiskers

Well, except for the proof-reading. Thanks for the high praise.


22 posted on 01/23/2010 4:44:34 PM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: GVnana

How about “liberal effete” instead?


23 posted on 01/23/2010 5:25:48 PM PST by Ge0ffrey
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To: GVnana

I have no doubt that the average conservative is more intelligent and better informed than the average democrat. The democrats have a layer of marxist intellectuals at the top but there isn’t much rational thinking below that.


24 posted on 01/23/2010 5:37:19 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT, A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
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To: grey_whiskers
Wondering what the opposite of elite might be I looked up the definition of Pica. You know the other type used in old typewriters.

"Pica: A craving for something not normally regarded as nutritive.",

My theory, with no particular attempt to hold water, is that Liberalism (Pica) is a craving for something not normally nutritive to the our democracy.

25 posted on 01/23/2010 5:45:55 PM PST by Cannoneer ("I didn't come here and I am not leaving" grandpa Burroughs 1960)
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To: Cannoneer
Yeah, pica is often manifested as an appetite for eating dirt.

Sounds like typical liberals to me...

Cheers!

26 posted on 01/23/2010 5:51:48 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: The_Reader_David

“On fully ten of twelve “News IQ Quiz” questions asked, Republicans demonstrated deeper basic knowledge than Democrats”...

The two questions that Republicans had trouble answering:

1. Where is the Food Stamp Office?
2. Where is the Welfare Office?


27 posted on 01/23/2010 5:56:51 PM PST by outhousepatrol
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To: GVnana

We call them elites because they think they are better than us not because they are and they aren’t.


28 posted on 01/23/2010 5:58:37 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: The_Reader_David
"Thus academicians tend to foolishly assume that having some fiduciary look after ones material needs on one’s behalf would be a good thing for everyone and end up being socialists and looking down on people who pursue commerce."

This description fits what I refer to as university inhabitants. I find a strong sense among them that they are not of this planet and humans with "normal" neurological makeup are merely a bother. Aspergers running wild.

29 posted on 01/23/2010 6:01:04 PM PST by Earthdweller (Harvard won the election again...so what's the problem.......?)
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To: GVnana

Yes but they aren’t called “elite” for their supeior knowledge(or lack thereof) they are called “elite” because that is the way they view themselves. You know better than the great unwashed masses. LOL too funny that they aren’t nearly as smart as they think they are!


30 posted on 01/23/2010 6:06:58 PM PST by chris_bdba
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To: TexasFreeper2009
duh! of COURSE republicans are smarter, the rich are ALWAYS smarter, that's why they are RICH!

So, Michael Moore is an anomoly?
31 posted on 01/23/2010 6:08:37 PM PST by Dewey Revoltnow
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To: GVnana

“latte-sipping, Mini-driving, Queer Eye-watching, sushi-eating, wine-drinking”

That’s how he describes himself? That can go directly into my glossary of flames.


32 posted on 01/23/2010 6:21:18 PM PST by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: GVnana

Only the successfully ‘dumbed-down’ and con men, become Democrats.


33 posted on 01/23/2010 6:23:25 PM PST by Jabba the Nutt (Are they insane, stupid or just evil?)
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To: Earthdweller

Actually, my wife sometimes accuses me of having Aspergers. I do not, however, suffer from the delusion that just because it is beneficial to my mathematical research to not need to worry about material needs, and similarly for my fellow academicians’ pursuit of their chosen disciplines, that such a state of affairs is either possible or desirable for humanity at large.


34 posted on 01/23/2010 6:28:19 PM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: The_Reader_David
Agreed. I come from a long line of “university inhabitants”. It's likely that I have a strong touch of the “boogers” as well. Even so, I find no need or desire to follow along with the mindset that requires “normal” humans to be placed on a leash. The female boogers tend to be a little more forgiving.
35 posted on 01/23/2010 6:38:42 PM PST by Earthdweller (Harvard won the election again...so what's the problem.......?)
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To: GVnana

Liberals aren’t elite, they’re elitist.

Big difference.


36 posted on 01/23/2010 10:29:20 PM PST by T. Buzzard Trueblood ("The first unintended victim of almost every government program is common sense." - Ari David)
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To: GVnana

I am part of those statistics and I cannot believe how dumb some of the respndants are (I missed two).

I guess H.L. Mencken was right: “No one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American people.”


37 posted on 01/24/2010 3:23:32 AM PST by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
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To: paudio

Well, yeah! The big difference here is between ELITE and ELITIST!

Demonrats are Elitist and Conservatives are ELITE.

Not really. Knowing more abput he issues doesn’t make them elite - just more articulalte. They won’t begin their sentence with “I feel - - - “.


38 posted on 01/24/2010 5:32:41 AM PST by RoadTest (The entrance of thy words giveth light; it giveth understanding unto the simple. Ps. 119:130)
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To: GVnana

I got all 12 questions right. I am certainly not elite. I just pay attention to what is going on.

Being informed is a choice. Lefties watch and listen to MSM who chooses to keep them uninformed on the truth. They believe what they want to believe and they come to their faulty conclusions without fact or knowledge.

Actually it is this that make the dem sheeple so dangerous to liberty.


39 posted on 01/24/2010 6:05:49 AM PST by dforest (Who is the real Jim Thompson? I am.)
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To: GVnana

In the context of politics, “elite” is a derogatory term describing those who think that they know better than me what’s best for me.

And if I disagree, I’m just a bitter red-neck hillbilly racist homophobic sexist astro-turfing terrorist xenophobe (and other stuff I’ve forgotten).


40 posted on 01/24/2010 6:21:07 AM PST by Nickname (2012 - Yes You're Canned!)
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To: paudio

Agree with your post. Pew shows Republicans to be more well informed, while other surveys touted by liberals show libs to be more credentialed, with more Ph.Ds in off-the-wall areas. Liberal elitism comes from their firm but unsupported belief that credentials demonstrate intelligence, not actual knowledge.


41 posted on 01/24/2010 6:40:56 AM PST by TimSkalaBim (Going to see Avatar would waste energy, and destroy the natural world)
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To: GVnana

Liberals own the DNC, Universities, the ABA, the AMA, AARP, public schools, a large web of international leftist organization, the UN, race and sex inequality law and organization, the entertainment and media industry, and most of the large foundations.

They have used this money, law, organization and power to impose a culture of political correctness on large businesses/corporations. It is true that conservatives make the world go round but it is true the world is dominated by the minority of liberals who have made liberalism their careers.

Conservatives are too busy working and inventing to create this kind of well funded busy body, cultural engineering, oppressive organization and dominance on the US and the world.

Conservatives do not believe in competiting with the Left to oppress and hate people who are politically incorrect from our point of view. Conservatives turn on each other like snakes when any conservative tries to do this because we beleive in liberty. We don’t believe in world government so why would we be running around the UN with schemes of a world government to dominate the economic, political and social rule over all the people of the world.

In education, Liberals do not even bother to hide their intolerance for intellectual diversity and honesty - it is pc all the way if you want to be a professor. Look at climategate, for a recent example. Can you imagine a real conservative intellectual oppressing people who belief in climate change? No. They would let the science go where it honestly goes. It would not go where the Left has directed it to go by faking and manipulating temperature data.

To make a long story short - liberals are the elite who run the global political, social and cultural organizations and most media, arts, race, sex, law, education and public culture in the US.


42 posted on 01/24/2010 9:59:09 AM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: SaraJohnson

One other thing - without conservatives they would live in tents and starve to death.


43 posted on 01/24/2010 10:25:18 AM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: GVnana
I usually refer to them as self-appointed elites.
44 posted on 01/24/2010 12:05:37 PM PST by orinoco
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