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Al Awi Ben Talal...is 2nd largest Fox shareholder? Putting the kabosh on Obama eligibility expose?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35AAsGR9L4c ^

Posted on 01/24/2010 6:02:40 AM PST by cycle of discernment

Chilling, if true. Money controls everything. Protecting Obama via intimidation?

Al Awi Ben Talal, the Saudi prince is nephew of King Abdullah...the 2nd largest shareholder in Fox--is this the reason O'Reilly, Hannity and Beck are silent on and actively seek to ridicule Obama birth certificate story?

The story out of Canada via sources claimed they had been 'warned' to destroy the story---or else.


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1 posted on 01/24/2010 6:02:40 AM PST by cycle of discernment
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To: cycle of discernment

Obviously Obama is not telling the truth about hi past.


2 posted on 01/24/2010 6:05:33 AM PST by screaminsunshine
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To: cycle of discernment

Rev. James David Manning has been saying this for months , yet some here on FR call him a whackjob !


3 posted on 01/24/2010 6:10:43 AM PST by sushiman
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To: cycle of discernment

Rev. James David Manning has been saying this for months , yet some here on FR call him a whackjob !


4 posted on 01/24/2010 6:11:28 AM PST by sushiman
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To: cycle of discernment

I believe it. There’s too much evidence not to persue this and it is EXTREMELY unusual that Beck, of all people, would ignore it.


5 posted on 01/24/2010 6:11:55 AM PST by albie
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To: cycle of discernment

It would not surprise me that someone is pressing Fox not to report on the Obama BC issue....and also are putting pressure on faux-cons who appear on Fox News (Coulter, Levin, Malkin) who refuse to discuss the issue

It is sad that Fox is pretty much influenced by the same money that supports Islamic Terrorism

Sad that these people would rather Enable Obama than to get the facts out. The same people who whine “Van Jones is a Communist” are the same ones who are helping the Van Jones’s get into those positions in the first place.


6 posted on 01/24/2010 6:13:21 AM PST by UCFRoadWarrior (Nothing wrong with liking America....)
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To: cycle of discernment

There is no chance for America to survive if the media is controlled by outsiders.

I would hope that integrity would prevail some where. I guess that is will from a source out side the Us borders like Canada. I know that Beck or Hannity, Bill O’ are smart enough to get the story to Canada or somewhere else.


7 posted on 01/24/2010 6:14:14 AM PST by ncfool (The new USSA - United Socialst States of AmeriKa. Welcome to Obummers world.)
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To: cycle of discernment

I am curious, what other countries in the world allow foreigners to control major news outlets?

While on the subject of foreign ownership, how many countries in the world allow foreign individuals or foreign corporations to own huge amounts of farmland?

I truly do not know the answer, but I have a really good guess.


8 posted on 01/24/2010 6:15:11 AM PST by flash2368
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To: cycle of discernment

>>Is this the reason O’Reilly, Hannity and Beck are silent on and actively seek to ridicule Obama birth certificate story?<<

No, I expect it’s because they’re not kooks.

Well, Beck might be kook, but a kook with standards.


9 posted on 01/24/2010 6:16:42 AM PST by FelixFelicis (When can we *change* back? [Get yer bumper sticker at www.cafepress.com/deepright!])
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To: cycle of discernment; kristinn

This is Terrifying!!! If True?? The Saudi’s controlling Our Only “FAIR and Balanced TV Network” in the entire Nation!!!
Why doesn’t O”Reilly, Hannity and Beck (We know Smith is employed by the WH! and Geraldo too!) do a report on ‘Why Americans chose to Elect a President who was purposely hiding every record of his past! Every Freaking Record!!”
OBOZO’S Birth Certificate is the the tip of the Ice Berg!
No Medical, Scholastic, Professional, Travel, Passport or Legislative Records are available! All History of Obama Huseein (aka: Barry Soetoro) has disappeared!! But, the same Media was Thrilled to publish a made-up fictious Memo
about a G.W. Bush National Guard Point of 30 years ago, and GOD only knows what else!! OKAY!! Maybe RUSH will finally blow the whistle on FOX’S NOT SO BALANCED BEHAVIOR!


10 posted on 01/24/2010 6:19:06 AM PST by True Republican Patriot (May GOD Continue to BLESS Our Great President George W. Bush!!)
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To: FelixFelicis

So you think Beck doesn’t think it’s the tiniest bit suspicious that Obama has hidden his academic, personal and professional trail...and has dispatched teams of attys (spending over a million $$) to quash any inquiries...

uh, yeah...sounds very “Beck-like” that he would just not find that “curious”.

Keep doing your good work in putting your head in the sand.


11 posted on 01/24/2010 6:20:31 AM PST by cycle of discernment
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To: True Republican Patriot

Well why is Rush not going with the story? No one owns him?


12 posted on 01/24/2010 6:21:33 AM PST by 70th Division (I love my country but fear my government!)
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To: sushiman

Did you check the link? It’s Manning again.

But actually on this point, he is correct: bin Talal is a shareholder in Fox News, and he just recently (as in last week or something like that) the 2nd largest.

Did he put the kabosh on the birther story? Since he just upped his stake last week, it’s hard to imagine he did.

It’s a little disconcerting to see Fox News bought, even in the smallest part, by a Muzzie. I’ve posted to several threads that I thought the conservative movement was becoming too concentrated in one place, and suggested how neat it would be to see a news commentary station featuring Dobbs, Malkin, Ingraham, Crowley, etc.

But Manning is simply the radical left’s saboteur of conservatism.


13 posted on 01/24/2010 6:21:51 AM PST by dangus (Nah, I'm not really Jim Thompson, but I play him on FR.)
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To: cycle of discernment

Prince Alwaleed Bin Talal

Prince Alwaleed bin Talal, a nephew of the Saudi king and who was listed last year by Forbes as the world's 22nd richest person, met with News Corp.'s chief executive Rupert Murdoch on Jan. 14 in a meeting that "touched upon future potential alliances with News Corp.," according to a statement released by his Kingdom Holding Co. late Saturday.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100117/ap_on_bi_ge/ml_saudi_alwaleed_news_corp

14 posted on 01/24/2010 6:24:55 AM PST by deks
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To: dangus

Prince Alwaleed bin Talal in his U.S. investments, and sits on the board of his premier investment vehicle, Kingdom Holdings.

Prince Alwaleed, 53, is the nephew if King Abdallah of Saudi Arabia. Forbes magazine ranked him this year as the 19th richest person on the planet, with a fortune in excess of $23 billion. He owns large chunks of Citigroup and News Corp., the holding company that controls Fox News.

He is best known in the United States for his offer to donate $10 million to help rebuild downtown Manhattan after the 9/11 attacks. But after the prince made a public comment suggesting that U.S. policies had contributed to causing the attacks, Mayor Rudy Giuliani handed back his check.

“I entirely reject that statement,” Giuliani said. “There is no moral equivalent for this (terrorist) act. There is no justification for it. The people who did it lost any right to ask for justification for it when they slaughtered 4,000 or 5,000 innocent people.”

Since then, Prince Alwaleed’s Kingdom Foundation has given millions of dollars to Muslim charities in the United States, including several whose leaders have been indicted on terrorism-related charges in federal courts.

He also has given tens of millions of dollars to Harvard and other major U.S. universities, to establish programs in Islamic studies.

The casual statement by Percy Sutton to NY1 is the first [and LAST] time anyone has hinted at a relationship between Obama and the Saudi royal family.


15 posted on 01/24/2010 6:27:18 AM PST by cycle of discernment
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To: deks

For information on the Saudi Prince’s connection to Obama, see above...

Click on Keyword: alwaleedbintalal


16 posted on 01/24/2010 6:31:01 AM PST by deks
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To: 70th Division

Yep! We are pretty sure that No One owns RUSH.... but then Yu raise a good question to be sure! Lets see what he does do!...if anything?

Can You imagine the Scandal that will ocurr when the Truth finally Hits the Fan about OBAMA! Why would anyone in a position of power of the POTUS allow a question of Legitimacy hang over his Administration for a $10.50 Birth Certificate?? unless He had something Outrageously Horrific to Hide!! Well! Will RUSH step up to the plate on this one?
and will ‘Reilly, Hannity and Beck, the Three Mouseketeers, offer any insights to this Horrific Accusation? not to mention Roger Ailes and Rupert Murdoch too??


17 posted on 01/24/2010 6:31:52 AM PST by True Republican Patriot (May GOD Continue to BLESS Our Great President George W. Bush!!)
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To: cycle of discernment

Niel Cavuto recently had a very and thorough interview with the man.

He is for sure one of the good guys. He is not our enemy. And like a capable politician, he very carefully stepped around the traps Niel laid for him, especially those where he was asked about being king.

He is derided because he is Saudi and rich, but the fact is, he is one of the most brilliant businessmen on the planet. There is no better capitalist.

He is Saudi to the core but has adopted America. He has a much better grasp of the world than the brown clown.


18 posted on 01/24/2010 6:34:37 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Tax the poor. Taxes will give them a stake in society)
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To: bert

What??? Habe you checked out where this Saudi billionaire has placed his investments?

“Despite his disturbing background and connections, Bin Talal has many prominent Americans, both conservative and liberal, snowed”

Saudi financial jihadist prince eyes new links with News Corp.

Posted by shariahfinancewatch on 18th January 2010

The Saudi billionaire whose investment firm is one of the biggest stakeholders in Rupert Murdoch’s News Corp. said he is looking to expand his alliances with the media giant.

Prince Alwaleed bin Talal, a nephew of the Saudi king and who was listed last year by Forbes as the world’s 22nd richest person, met withNews Corp.’s chief executive Rupert Murdoch on Jan. 14 in a meeting that “touched upon future potential alliances with News Corp.,” according to a statement released by his Kingdom Holding Co. late Saturday.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100117/ap_on_bi_ge/ml_saudi_alwaleed_news_corp

Bin Talal’s involvement with the parent of Fox News is worrisome for a variety of reasons.

First of all, Bin Talal’s financial influence poses a threat to fair and balanced news at Fox because Bin Talal is anything BUT fair and balanced:

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/01/jihad-what-jihad-saudi-prince-meets-with-rupert-murdoch-to-discuss-future-potential-alliances.html

And Bin Talal’s influence has already been used in the past to influence Fox News’ reporting–at least according to Bin Talal himself:

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2005/12/saudi-prince-to-murdoch-jump-murdoch-to-prince-how-high.html

There is much to know about this man, Bin Talal.

First of all, he has financed and hosted telethons to raise money for Islamikaze bombers:

http://www.militantislammonitor.org/article/id/1109

Bin Talal is a big backer of Islamist organizations in the US, including the Islamic Society of North America, an unindicted co-conspirator in the Holy Land Foundation trial, the largest terrorism financing trial in US history. It should also be noted that ISNA has been revealed to be a front for the Muslim Brotherhood, the original Jihadist organization:

http://www.isna.net/events/Special-Announcement/HRH-Prince-Alwaleed-Bin-Talal-ISNA-Fellowship-Program.aspx

Despite his disturbing background and connections, Bin Talal has many prominent Americans, both conservative and liberal, snowed:

http://www.forbes.com/2010/01/16/alwaleed-kindgom-holding-company-intelligent-investing-citi.html?partner=yahootix

Bin Talal’s influence is spreading thanks to the largesse bestowed upon him by his membership among the Saudi ruling family. He uses his money to buy influence and then he uses that influence. Here is a list of the entities that he has wrapped his tentacles around:

http://www.conservapedia.com/Prince_Alwaleed_Bin_Talal_Alsaud

We should all keep a close eye on Bin Talal, a key player in the global financial jihad, and hope that Fox News turns back his continued advances…

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19 posted on 01/24/2010 6:38:37 AM PST by cycle of discernment
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To: cycle of discernment

Keep drinking the Kool Ade and being duped by the propaganda. It is the easiest course.


20 posted on 01/24/2010 6:45:02 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Tax the poor. Taxes will give them a stake in society)
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To: bert

Well, all-knowing Bert, it is wise to pay attention “all-around”. I suggest you do the same.

I do not trust the words of a Saudi billionaire that finances global terror roots...(of course you would call that mere “propaganda”)

Double-speak and sweet deception are two of the most finely honed gifts of the Arabian and Persian empires. They are VERY smart people.

“Despite his disturbing background and connections, Bin Talal has many prominent Americans, both conservative and liberal, snowed”


21 posted on 01/24/2010 6:50:49 AM PST by cycle of discernment
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To: cycle of discernment

Since then, Prince Alwaleed’s Kingdom Foundation has given millions of dollars to Muslim charities in the United States,

Our money returning from oil purchases !!!!!!!!!!!!!


22 posted on 01/24/2010 6:52:16 AM PST by buck61
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To: True Republican Patriot

I agree. But people will die before Obama is exposed. Look who died in the Clinton administration. Rod Brown, the Fort Marcy park thing. And more. It will not be pretty. But it has to get done. I hope it does. Obama is bought and paid for by Saudi oil money and is a Muslim.

BTW I love this line, “and will ‘Reilly, Hannity and Beck, the Three Mouseketeers, offer any insights to this Horrific Accusation? not to mention Roger Ailes and Rupert Murdoch too??”


23 posted on 01/24/2010 6:53:15 AM PST by 70th Division (I love my country but fear my government!)
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To: cycle of discernment; All

Well .. I have a slightly different take than most.

As a news outlet .. maybe FOX don’t want to stir the pot until they know for sure what’s in it.

By that I mean .. yes, there is a lot of speculation - but not a lot of actual proof .. which is the key.

For a news outlet to speculate on hearsay information, you’re treading water. What if all of Obama’s documents are finally released and there’s nothing to disqualify him ..?? What then ..?? This issue has already made it to the Supreme Court (not sure if that’s a state supreme court or the USSC) .. so let them sort out the information and we can go from there.

If you’ve been on the air whipping the public into a frenzy because there’s a chance the president’s not legally in that position .. You’ll have a lot of egg on your face if he turns out to be legal. And .. Obama already hates FOX, so I would expect he would do whatever he could to shut it down. And .. if you’re a shareholder of Fox News Corp - that prospect is not a good one. This might be the only reason for the caution.

There will be plenty of time to carry the story and expose the President if, in fact, it is finally learned that he’s not here legally. Then .. you have all the stories to cover regarding “impeachment”, “removal from office”, “a new president”, etc.

And .. also remember this .. Obama may have actually been born in HI; but the other documents he’s hiding may reveal that he lied about his status; about his birth; about his nationality or religion in order to get grants and other monies for his education. While that is FRAUD, would it be strong enough evidence to impeach him ..?? Knowing the dems like we do .. you know they would put up a stink if we tried to get Obama out of office - FOR ANY REASON.

And then there’s the worst story of all - WE’RE NOW STUCK WITH BIDEN AS PRESIDENT .. from Marxist to Idiot!

And .. if you don’t agree with me .. that’s okay.


24 posted on 01/24/2010 7:25:47 AM PST by CyberAnt (Healthcare is not a RIGHT guaranteed by the Constitution)
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To: cycle of discernment
A Saudi Prince with a sizable investment in a successful U.S. media corporation is a story worth keeping an eye on.

And when Steve Doocy starts blaming the Joooos for tsunamis in Indonesia, then you'll know there is a problem.

But the reason they don't cover the birth certificate story is the same reason they don't run serious stories about the controlled demolition of the twin towers, the missile that hit the Pentagon, GHWBush’s involvement with the Kennedy assassination, etc...

Because they are just too nutty to be given serious attention.

BTW...have you heard about Ellie Light?...disinformation is out there...jusayin’

25 posted on 01/24/2010 7:30:54 AM PST by Tex-Con-Man
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To: cycle of discernment; All

I forgot to mention. Talal was a guest on Cavuto’s program, and he was totally supportive of Bush’s strong method of handling the terrorists. He stated that the current admin should be strong like Bush.

It was priceless!!!!!!


26 posted on 01/24/2010 7:35:29 AM PST by CyberAnt (Healthcare is not a RIGHT guaranteed by the Constitution)
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To: cycle of discernment

“They are VERY smart people”

They’re not smart. Their cunning liars. Who would trust one word from a muzzie mouth? Remember their “holy” book condones this type of behavior.


27 posted on 01/24/2010 7:36:39 AM PST by Bluebeard16
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To: LucyT; Candor7

ping to possible Saudi suppressionn of Fox birther coverage


28 posted on 01/24/2010 7:59:44 AM PST by Seizethecarp
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To: LucyT; Candor7

ping to numerous links on Prince Alwaleed...


29 posted on 01/24/2010 8:08:37 AM PST by Seizethecarp
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To: cycle of discernment
The story out of Canada via sources claimed they had been 'warned' to destroy the story---or else.

Maybe a published story like Canada Free Press, would also be good for further information.

30 posted on 01/24/2010 9:01:25 AM PST by urtax$@work (The best kind of memorial is a Burning Memorial.........)
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To: deks; LucyT; Candor7
I fully support investigation, full transparency, and court action to establish the constitutional facts regarding Obama’s eligibility all the way up to the SCOTUS.

But Rush, Beck, Hannity, Coulter, Levin and Malkin are currently destroying Obama on the issues with the help of Murcock every day. They are destroying Obama on the issues including hammering Obama’s coddling of Islamist terrorists in civil court, rather than in military tribunals, and Obama’s refusal to describe Islamist terrorism as Islamist. This is hardly kowtowing to any sentiments that Prince Alwaleed might have.

Beck may have unfairly dismissive of “birthers” but he gives the correct answer to the ultimate question of the moment which is “Is it better for Obama to be defeated by exposure and education of the public of his radical progressive, socialist agenda, or to be exposed as being ineligible?”

If SCOTUS ruled tomorrow that Obama was ineligible and removed him, I would do handsprings, but the vast SEIU, ACORN, progressive academic and political power structure would still be intact and able to regenerate...with Hillary!

If you take a close look at the facts presented in the story at your link you will see that the prince owns only 5.7% of NewsCorp, which is hardly enough to exercise any editorial control or give instructions to Murdock. The prince does not even have a seat on the NewsCorp Board of Directors.

On the Newscorp Board are José María Aznar, the former conservative Prime Minister of Spain who was kicked out by craven fearful Spanish voter after Al Qaeda bombed the Madrid trains, and also Viet Dinh, who drafted the US Patriot Act. These folks seem hardly likely to cower before the prince.

See NewCorp 2009 proxy with details on directors beginning page 6:

http://investor.newscorp.com/secfiling.cfm?filingID=1193125-09-178387

The Prince also took a bath in 2008 on both Citicorp and Newscorp stock and is still underwater bigtime. His $ billions in multinationals vulnerable to terrorist activities and his entire royal family is on the Al Qaeda hit-list. The prince's alleged terrorist ties pertain to Saudi support for Hamas and Hezbollah funding Islamic “charities” which do provide hospitals and schools as well as back-door funding for terrorist activities to “liberate” Palestine from the “Zionist Entity”.

The expansion of ties to Murdock in the story is actually a story of Murdock gaining additional ownership of the prince's media company, not the other way around.

From the story:

“Prince Alwaleed bin Talal, a nephew of the Saudi king and who was listed last year by Forbes as the world's 22nd richest person, met with News Corp.’s chief executive Rupert Murdoch on Jan. 14 in a meeting that “touched upon future potential alliances with News Corp.,” according to a statement released by his Kingdom Holding Co. late Saturday.

“Media reports have indicated that News Corp, parent to Fox News and Dow Jones & Co., among others, may be thinking of buying a stake in Alwaleed’s Rotana Media Group, which includes a number of satellite channels that air in the Middle East.

“Neither company has commented publicly on the possible deal, but the talks offer an indication yet that such an agreement may yet be in the offing.

“Kingdom Holding's statement said Alwaleed is already the second largest stakeholder in News Corp., with 5.7 percent of the shares of the media company. The stake is held through Kingdom Holding, in which Alwaleed holds a 95 percent stake.

“The investment company has a diverse portfolio, ranging from hotels to shares in Apple, eBay and Citigroup.

“Alwaleed, and the investment firm, were hit hard by the global meltdown.”

31 posted on 01/24/2010 9:04:27 AM PST by Seizethecarp
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To: CyberAnt
Not to mention the constitutional crisis that this country would be thrown into . There would be many on the left calling for the final nail in the coffin of our most sacred document . I think that they know that this would certainly lead to bloody civil war .
32 posted on 01/24/2010 9:43:58 AM PST by Freak Flag
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To: Freak Flag

Agreed!


33 posted on 01/24/2010 10:13:54 AM PST by CyberAnt (Healthcare is not a RIGHT guaranteed by the Constitution)
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To: Bluebeard16

I have worked with a lot of Arabs....cunning liars is an understatement. I always knew I was in trouble when I heard this phrase “Bjorn, I respect you like an uncle....” and then turnaround ans stab me in the back. They’ve been doing this for thousands of years they’re good at.


34 posted on 01/24/2010 10:54:37 AM PST by bjorn14 (Woe to those who call evil good and good evil. Isaiah 5:20)
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